FOLLOWUP: What the city’s saying before Thursday’s Andover RV camp ‘remediation’

As we’ve been reporting, the city is about to launch another “remediation” at the 6+-year-old mostly-RVs encampment along SW Andover between 26th and 28th SW. The remediations in December and April only resulted in junk removal, but there are indications this one will be more sweeping. Last night, we reported on an announcement from West Seattle Health Club that it had been told the area will be entirely cleared. We’ve gone through the area three times today to look for signs of advance preparations; we saw one trailer being towed from the west side of WSHC by a pickup truck, and noticed green tags along with orange tags on the vehicles, all titled FINAL NOTICE. And early this evening, we received this from Seattle Public Utilities spokesperson Sabrina Register, from whom we had requested details of the plan:

On June 13, parking enforcement officers visited SW Andover St between 26th Ave SW and 28th Ave SW to provide 72-hour notification to RV and vehicle occupants of the exact area that needed to be free of vehicles so Seattle Public Utilities (SPU) crews could perform an RV Remediation to thoroughly clean the area and dispose of trash and debris on June 16. At the time of the notification, there were 15 RVs, 11 vehicles and one utility trailer.

Additionally, to address a nearby sidewalk obstruction due to an encampment, the City posted a notice on June 14 that all personal items must be removed from the encampment by June 16.

For almost a month, the HOPE Team, within the Human Services Department that coordinates homelessness outreach and referrals to shelter, in coordination with the King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA) and outreach providers, including REACH, LEAD, Urban League, Catholic Community Services’ SCOPE Team, St. Vincent de Paul’s RV Project, and the Scofflaw Mitigation Team, have been intensifying outreach to this area to connect those residing onsite in vehicles and in the encampment with vehicle maintenance support and offers of shelter and services.

As of June 15, these outreach efforts have resulted in at least nine referrals to 24/7 enhanced shelter spaces or tiny houses. For additional details on these coordinated outreach efforts, please reach out to KCRHA, who also recently awarded a contract to the Low-Income Housing Institute (LIHI) to develop a safe lot program.

With a focus on addressing public health and safety, SPU performs multiple RV Remediations monthly in different areas of the City. Staff do site assessments where there are five or more RVs in one location. The assessments help the City determine which areas should be prioritized for cleanup.

At least three days prior to the remediation, temporary “no parking” signs are placed at the location, letting the public know about parking restrictions for a particular time period. SDOT staff follow up with direct outreach to RV occupants starting 72 hours prior to a remediation.

If a car is towed from a public street, instructions to locate the vehicle and documents required to release the vehicle are available online. The first step to find and reclaim a vehicle is to call Lincoln Towing at 206-364-2000 or search for the vehicle on Lincoln Towing’s website. More information on 72-hour parking enforcement can be found here: City of Seattle 72-Hour On-Street Parking Ordinance – Transportation |

Any personal items remaining on June 16, will be stored per City policy. People can retrieve their items by calling 206-459-9949, and we will work with individuals to make arrangements for delivery.

The count of 15 RVs matches what we observed this afternoon. Meantime, we had also asked City Councilmember Lisa Herbold and her staff on Friday for any details of the plan, as she had previously mentioned she planned to meet with the mayor’s office. She sent us this reply today:

I have been in regular contact with both the HOPE Team at the City’s Human Services Department, and Marc Dones, ED of the King County Regional Homelessness Authority, as well as communicating with housed neighbors reaching out to my office. HSD and KCRHA met with Nucor and the Alki Beach Academy last week, I was in on that meeting and I have been advocating that we address – before enforcement of the parking prohibition scheduled this week – the urgent needs and requests of the people living in RVs and tents in the area, including a dumpster to help with trash as well rats, repairs for the vehicles, and facilitating the opportunity to visit Camp Second Chance, where 20 new tiny houses will soon be available.

Camp Second Chance is West Seattle’s only city-supported tiny-house encampment, on Myers Way in southeasternmost West Seattle.

36 Replies to "FOLLOWUP: What the city's saying before Thursday's Andover RV camp 'remediation'"

  • 24th ave June 15, 2022 (8:27 pm)

    I guess we’ll see… 

  • Echo June 15, 2022 (9:00 pm)

    I have been advocating that we address – before enforcement of the parking prohibition scheduled this week – the urgent needs and requests of the people living in RVs and tents in the area…I guess we know where Lisa stands; it’s not with the majority sentiment of her constituents that have been begging for the removal of this six-year encampment. Not surprising. I saw at least one resident cleaning out the cab of their RV in what seemed like preparation to move (this was hours after the one was towed away by truck). The one towed away by truck had only shown up last week, so don’t really consider it part of the encampment.

    • Foop June 16, 2022 (12:44 am)

      Sounds like you’d like them moved to your street? Sweeping them without addressing the core problem only moves these people around.

      • nwpolitico June 16, 2022 (10:33 am)

        Complete inaction/application of laws until all root causes are addressed is untenable. The current situation is not taking responsibility and the result being a serious humanitarian and environmental disaster. Moving them around proves they are not above the law and can shake them out of their complacency, and into a better situation.

        • Cozy June 16, 2022 (8:27 pm)

          Harassing the homeless, is not the way to help them.

          These are people experiencing varying degrees of hardship, trauma, and suffering. They do not need to be ‘shaken’ further
          Kindness, care, support, resources, housing. Not more harsh judgements and treatment and retraumatization; they’ve already lost housing, forcing them to move is another loss of place.

          The circumstances and struggles of homeless individuals are hard enough, and many already feel a lot of shame for where they are and how they are living.

          This kind of action seems to do more for the surrounding honeowning neighbors, as if they are more the victim of homelessness, rather than those actually experiencing homelessness.

          • Adams St June 17, 2022 (7:51 am)

            Do your kids hear gunshots from their homes every night when they should be safe in their beds? Do you have to explain to your family not to go near that street because 3 shootings have happened in the last few months? Did you see the last gunman flee the seen? Was one your neighbors hit over the head with a sledgehammer? Come talk to us when those things happen and you are able to get off your high horse. 

      • Shirin July 5, 2022 (9:13 am)

        I agree. They just moved a few blocks away to Harbor Avenue SW. now the street is trashed, smells really bad that we can’t even walk the dogs anymore, and crime is up (car break ins). I’m so tired of Seattle that I’ll be another one that is leaving. 

  • 1994 June 15, 2022 (9:09 pm)

    So many of these look very dangerous and like they may just fall apart if moved. What a mess! If they are drivable the owners should drive to an RV camp ground where they can pay to stay with electrical and water available…..they don’t have to stay in one of the most expensive cities in the country, try a less expensive place to reside. 

    • Rocket June 17, 2022 (10:44 am)

      RV parks have standards.  None of these RVs would be allowed in.  When we were fulltiming 99% of RV parks do not rent to RVs older than 10 or 20 years and they just be in decent shape.RV parks have other rules too which might make it hard for many of these folks to comply with as the reason so many of them are out there is their inability to follow enough rules to be rewarded with community support in exchange.

  • shed22 June 15, 2022 (9:19 pm)

    Thank you to the city for finally taking action. Keep it up! We all deserve clean and safe public spaces.

    • Derek June 16, 2022 (6:56 am)

      We all deserve to be in homes first. 

      • Jeepney June 16, 2022 (9:05 am)

        Unfortunately, Seattle has become too expensive for working class or people below the poverty line to live.  There are other states that have lower cost of living.

      • Stephen King June 16, 2022 (9:39 am)

        No we don’t! Housing is not a basic right. You need to make an effort in life. 

        • WS Res June 16, 2022 (1:23 pm)

          Or what? You deserve to die?

          • Rocket June 17, 2022 (10:47 am)

            Maybe not deserve but nothing is promised to anyone especially in this country.  At what point were you told you were entitled to anything but a pursuit of life?  If you pursue it in such a way that increases your mortality then that’s on you.  The only thing guaranteed is the chance to try, everything else must be earned or the consequences will follow.

  • My two cents June 15, 2022 (9:43 pm)

    Herbold is a piece of work – where was this type of of insight 3 months ago when this was announced? Totally useless – just sends out a press release that accomplishes nothing for the community.

    • Mark B June 16, 2022 (7:59 am)

      RVs and tents have been on Andover since roughly the time CM Herbold was first elected. Either she’s way too late to be advocating for folks down there, or she’s spent six years being wildly ineffective at it. 

      • snowskier June 16, 2022 (9:02 am)

        You summed it up quite well “she’s spent six years being wildly ineffective”

  • Jeepney June 16, 2022 (5:44 am)

    As of yesterday there were at least 5 more RV’s and other vehicles parked on Trenton near Westwood Village.  Hopefully the city continues to address that area as well.I would like the city to create a page on their website for private citizens who are willing to shelter and provide RV parking on their property to sign up.  I see that there are many people who want to help the houseless, creating a registry would be a great way for them to provide that help.

    • WSB June 16, 2022 (10:41 pm)

      There are only two there tonight.

  • WSEA June 16, 2022 (8:46 am)

    There’s been an increase in motorhomes on harbor avenue so it appears to be a shell game of sorts.  I’m sure they will clean up harbor so expect the motorhomes back next to the gym in a couple months. 

    • Alki resident June 16, 2022 (9:01 am)

      And on Trenton, parking enforcement was ticketing  trucks. 

  • Villagegreen June 16, 2022 (8:50 am)
    A really interesting article for people who are trying to find long term solutions rather than simply moving these encampments from one street to another. The next street could be yours.

    • Ron Swanson June 16, 2022 (10:04 am)

      Houston has made so much progress because the lack of zoning and limited regulation makes it cheap to build housing, and thus cheap to place the homeless in housing.  The Venn diagram of people who complain about homeless encampments and complain about new apartment buildings on here is almost a circle though

  • East Coast Cynic June 16, 2022 (9:25 am)

    Maybe the city can consider doing what Edmonds does and ban the homeless and give them bus tickets to go somewhere else.

  • TrixieStix June 16, 2022 (10:14 am)

    Yay – success achieved. The RV’s are moving out, turning the corner onto Harbor Ave., and setting up camp there. Congratulations all!

    • WSB June 16, 2022 (11:06 am)

      Just for the record, as of late yesterday, before movement out of Andover/28th began, there were nine RV’s spread across a stretch of Harbor from the street-end park south of Salty’s (that one’s been there a long time) to the Verge condos.

      • James June 16, 2022 (11:13 am)

        It’s so weird how fixated people are on RV parking. Get over it?

        • Jim June 16, 2022 (5:23 pm)

          Alas, if only it was just an RV parking problem.

        • The truth June 16, 2022 (9:05 pm)

          I am not against the RV parking but the environmental damage and activities around the encampments I have an issue with.

  • Bill June 16, 2022 (10:55 am)

    Herbold is totally worthless as her missive indicates. Make sure she is not re-elected.

  • anonyme June 16, 2022 (10:56 am)

    If RV’s were required to move every 72 hours (meaning that the law was actually enforced) then this type of encampment would quickly become impossible.  Those able to move would either leave for destinations with fewer restrictions, or find other options entirely.  Those that could not move should never have been on the street at all, and the junk vehicles should be permanently removed.  No more legal double standards.  If the city wants to establish controlled RV camps, fine – but not as taxpayer-subsidized criminal free-for-alls.

    • James June 16, 2022 (12:55 pm)

      And therein is the problem. You want to criminalize being poor. 

      • anonyme June 17, 2022 (6:11 am)

        That old “criminalizing poverty” trope is getting tired.  As you well know. the problem is crime, not poverty.  They are not synonymous as you would suggest.  In your world, people are charged with crimes based solely on income; hopefully we can agree that this constitutes an unjust system, regardless of the income of the criminal. Try applying some logic to your sanctimony.

      • SW Adams June 17, 2022 (8:15 am)

        No it’s already illegal. There’s a difference.

  • torvil June 16, 2022 (4:09 pm)

    HMMM…the note only mentions RV’s and other vehicles. How odd.Why not count the AT LEAST 27 bicycles in various states of tear-down? I also visually counted 59 bicycle wheels.I also counted 11 shopping carts from various stores, 2 orange carts from Home Depot. I did not take photos this time because people are more concerned about VICTIM Enablement than accountability of felonious action. The powers that be are sicker than those the claim to advocate for…IT IS TRUE AND WE ALL KNOW IT!

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