‘A place you’d be proud to come to’: Possibilities unveiled, community suggestions voiced, for West Seattle Junction parking-lot parcels

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

An “incubator” hub for small businesses.

Affordable housing – including apartments for growing families and seniors.

Community gathering spaces, indoors and outdoors.

And yes, parking (underground).

Those are some of the possibilities in concepts for redevelopment of the West Seattle Junction Association-managed parking lots, as discussed at an online community meeting tonight.

The meeting was hosted by West Seattle Junction Association executive director Lora Radford, and featured guests from Community Roots Housing, which has made an as-yet-unaccepted $14 million offer to buy the lots, and Ankrom Moisan, the architecture firm CRH commissioned to rough out possibilities. The lots are at 42nd/Oregon, 44th/Oregon, 44th/Alaska, and 44th between Edmunds and Alaska.

Here’s how the meeting unfolded:

HISTORY: Radford said the parking lots’ history goes back to the 1950s, when the area’s status as a hub was recognized and three lots were created. When a fire station was relocated years later, that became the fourth lot. Businesses were informally asked to contribute for operation and maintenance costs. Then in 1987, the Business Improvement Area was formally created, one of now 10 in the city, second oldest, all created for different reasons – in this case, “to pay for the parking lots.” Other activities, from the summertime Sidewalk Sale to Summer Fest to flower baskets, followed, to create “a great, beautiful, vibrant downtown” for West Seattle. Then came 2016, when the King County Assessor’s Office noticed the “highest and best use” per zoning was for development, and the property tax bill (paid by WSJA as part of its lease terms) started increasing steadily and exponentially. Regarding the lots’ former status as free, Radford reminded attendees that “it was never free” – the merchants covered the cost. As we reported along the way, over the course of a few years, they worked out the plan to charge for use of the lots, and implemented it early this year. “Because they’re in the middle of an urban village, we really started to look at whether what as good in the 1950s … did it really make sense for these lots to sit here undeveloped? … We decided, what would it look like if there was the ability to build on these lots … (something) that would serve the community for many generations.” The discussion with Community Roots Housing ensued. The city Office of Housing was “intrigued about the ability to put affordable housing in the Urban Village of the West Seattle Junction.” An appraisal ensued; an offer was made to the lots’ owner, Trusteed Properties (which was not part of tonight’s meeting). And then CRH engaged Ankrom Moisan to come up with a vision for what might be possible; Community Roots Housing funded the renderings they presented.

COMMUNITY ROOTS HOUSING: Jeremy Wilkening began with an introduction to his organization, a public development authority, city-chartered, that’s been around for 40 years (formerly known as Capitol Hill Housing). CRH partners with organizations around the city. One attendee asked what “affordable housing’ for this project would mean: “We use a low-income tax credit which limits to 60 percent of the area’s average mean income – roughly $60,000 for a family of four. … We consider that ‘workforce housing,’ people who cannot afford to live in our city’s neighborhoods any more.” An attendee asked what mix of 1-, 2-, 3-bedroom apartments they were considering. Too early to say, Wilkening replied. “We have some ideas but we want to hear what the neighborhood would like to see.” He added that the city’s Housing Levy – a major source of funding – “does favor smaller units,” though they’ve been trying to evolve to larger ones. City funding can’t be used to fund public parking, he added in response to another question, but they’re “very concerned” about figuring out how to fund “true public parking” – for business customers – in the projects. “We don’t have an answer for that, but we want to solve that with the community, because we understand that’s an important part of this.” Radford mentioned a 2018 survey that showed 29 percent of Junction shoppers/diners drove alone to get there. (In the chat box, one merchant, Bruce Davis from Junction True Value, said that didn’t apply to his business, which he estimated has 90 percent driver patronage.) She also said that while you see lower use of the lots since they converted to paid, the most important question is whether merchants are seeing lower sales. She surveys them frequently and learned, “The answer is no.”

Akeyla Jimerson of CRH showed a few of their projects – the Liberty Bank Building, (corrected) 115 units in the Central District on what was the site of the “first Black-owned bank in the Pacific Northwest,” also including three commercial spaces with Black-owned businesses as their tenants, Station House, 110 units on Sound Transit land in Capitol Hill, opened in March of last year, and includes a community room that’s open to the public. The White Center HUB (rendering above) – not yet built – is a project planned for the county-owned site that currently holds the White Center Food Bank; 80 apartments and spaces for local nonprofits are planned.

ANKROM MOISAN: Jason Roberts from the architecture firm stressed, “Nothing here is very fixed at all” – it’s one idea of what could be done with the sites. First he noted the zoning for the sites – #1 at 42nd/Oregon could go up to 95′, the other three could go up to 75′. (Their ideas do NOT go to maximum allowable height.) All have alley connections, he also noted. Power lines running along the alley mean there’d need to be a setback. And new development on these sites is not required to have any parking. He said they’re “interested in creating some outdoor spaces adjacent to the sidewalk.” “We imagine people being able to walk around these buildings and take a little break.” They also would create mid-block connections (which The Junction already has, particularly between Edmunds and Alaska). Other components could include an “incubator space” at Site 2, maybe an open kitchen for food businesses, and residential community features such as rooftop terraces and community rooms.

Here’s the overall site plan:

With Site 1 the largest site, they’d have more family housing – 2- and 3- bedrooms – plus commercial space, a roof deck, and it wolf be “efficient” to create some underground parking – maybe even 2 levels. A play area for the youngest residents is envisioned, too.

Site 2 could have community meeting spaces, a roof deck, a mix of apartment sizes, also some parking is possible there. The “incubator” space to nurture small businesses (restaurants, retail, with a much lower lease” and services to assist in the businesses’ success) could be here.

Roberts also had an early “concept” rendering for Site 2 – looking at its potential west side along 44th south of Oregon – showing the “incubator” space wrapping around the courtyard. The north part of the building could be smaller, toward the scale of the Oregonian apaqrtments to the north. “We really want to work with the scale” of existing buildings, he said.

Site 3, retail space fronting the bus plaza, affordable senior apartments, a common area, some public outdoor space – a smaller site so underground parking is less likely,

Same with Site 4 – parking is less likely. It would set back to preserve existing trees. Some units would be on the ground floor.

Height would be limited for affordable construction – concrete at ground level, topped by wood. They would not be building as tall as zoning allows, because of that. Eight stories would be the tallest.

Wilkening stressed again that “these are concepts,” not always created at this early stage in a potential development process, but “this process is a little unique” because they have to engage with the property owner and so had to get a little more concrete about the concepts … starting with “our ideas” but ready to hear “your ideas.”

COMMUNITY COMMENTS/QUESTIONS: These were addressed as the meeting went along but then when a dedicated Q&A/comment. period began, they included:

-Spread out the parking instead of just concentrating it in one building
-Have you considered the impact of future light rail? (Answer: Yes)
-Would these be MFTE (Multi-Family Tax Exemption program, which restricts rents) units? No, the rents they would charge would be lower than MFTE rents, and would last longer (MFTE currently expires after 12 years, and these would be affordable “for at least 70 years”)
-What’s the timeline for this potential construction? They don’t know which would be first, but they wouldn’t expect to start building until 2024, so the sites would remain parking lots “up until we’re ready to develop them”
-With increasing foot traffic, will there be more crosswalks? They would certainly meet with SDOT to assess the streetscape.
-How would this affect surrounding properties’ values, if affordable housing was developed on these sites? Studies show no impact, Wilkening said.
-Could the alleys be pedestrian streets? One challenge would be ensuring that didn’t impede services for the businesses.

In response to a specific request for comments on “what would you like to see … think of it as your legacy”
-Affordable housing, green spaces, more trees, livability
-More covered outdoor options
-Need a hospital

WHAT’S NEXT: The site owners would have to accept CRH’s offer before any of this might move forward. WSJA says the owners (a consortium of shareholders) are expected to consider it at a meeting later this month. Meantime, CRH promises to create a “portal” for feedback in the near future. “If we’re able to move forward with this, we’re going to be sure we get it right,” promised Radford. “A place that you’d be proud to come to,” added CRH CEO Chris Persons.

VIDEO OF THE MEETING: Update – added Friday afternoon:

75 Replies to "'A place you'd be proud to come to': Possibilities unveiled, community suggestions voiced, for West Seattle Junction parking-lot parcels"

  • Patricia Rollins October 21, 2021 (9:51 pm)

    If, W.S.T.P.’s would sell any of the lots, WHY is each  being considered as a building opportunity, rather than remaining a “Parking Lot” as originally envisioned??Rather unfortunate use of all of those properties, that have been used to make the “JUNCTION” a viable, busy and productive part of our community.  You are going to be missing the boat, if you remove them from the footprint of our business district! You’ve already made it to hard to shop “the Junction”

    • Jort October 21, 2021 (11:48 pm)

      From the article:

      She also said that while you see lower use of the lots since they converted to paid, the most important question is whether merchants are seeing lower sales. She surveys them frequently and learned, “The answer is no.”

      Also, careful: the land was not “originally envisioned” as parking lots. No, that was a modern invention in the 1950s in an ultimately futile attempt to radically alter the concept of transportation as personal-based. The land was shops, homes and a fire station, and we tore them to the ground to facilitate private, subsidized car storage. For the future, the Junction will be fine. Parking was never free and it is kind of insulting to the people who live and work in the Junction to think that “free parking” was the most important thing in that neighborhood. I look forward to welcoming new families, and so should you.

      • ws islander October 22, 2021 (6:55 am)

        and there’s no other possible cause for lower usage of the parking lots? a global pandemic maybe? our peninsula turning into an island with the bridge out? I’d like to see actual numbers on this

      • Zoomy October 22, 2021 (7:49 am)

        Not sure why you’re telling me how I should feel about things you’re passionate about. Also, if you think 1950’s is modern then I have beach property in Kansas to sell you. I know it’s a hard concept but cars are a major part of most of our lives and will be for the foreseeable future. It seems like you sit here in a fantasy  world where cars don’t’ exist. We DO need space to park. I will actively avoid the junction if I can’t park. I’m willing to pay for a spot, no problem. I’ll go somewhere less crowded if parking is an issue. I don’t live in a fantasy world where everyone has the ability to walk everywhere. No, a bus line doesn’t’ come by my place and I’m not going to ride one because I have a car. I’m not going to ride my bike in the rain to go to dinner with friends. We need a realistic approach to this, not a “kill all parking spots” approach to force everyone to ditch their cars. Also, where do you find info that those spaces weren’t originally envisioned for parking? Show me this grand “original design” you speak of. Is it from 1890? 

        • Kevin on Delridge October 22, 2021 (10:32 am)

          Cars are a failed experiment. The sooner people stop clutching onto them, the sooner we can make progress on creating environments for PEOPLE rather than cars.

          • T Rex October 22, 2021 (1:01 pm)

            You need to study some history and see just how cars changed the world. 

          • Kevin on Delridge October 22, 2021 (4:36 pm)

            More meaningless statements. “Changed the world,” well of course they did. The question is whether it was for the better or worse.I am making the case that it has been overall for the worse. That isn’t to say cars, trucks, semis, etc don’t have a role, they do. But we’ve let a variety of forces make us highly dependent on them which has a myriad of negative impacts on society.So no, T Rex. I don’t need to study the last 100-ish years of cars to understand that they’ve had a fundamental impact on our society. If you’ll indulge me, perhaps you should study some history (and the present) to understand why the places we’ve built today lead to the myriad of issues present in society. To name a few: obesity, connectedness/community, environment.

        • Jort October 22, 2021 (10:42 am)

          Nobody is proposing to “kill all parking spots,” but they are proposing to limit them and to charge market rates for them so that non-drivers don’t subsidize freeloading car drivers. And, yeah, the “original design” was that these would not be parking lots, even from 1890. We can take parking lots out just as easily as we put them in, and people will deal with it, because cars are not the future and people will adapt. That’s just reality, people need to start living in it. 

          • Lisa October 22, 2021 (1:29 pm)

            Dare to explain how car drivers are “feeloaders?”

        • DC October 22, 2021 (11:17 am)

          If parking is so important to you, you are more than welcome to go somewhere else! Plenty of others will take your place. Not every place has to cater to you and your car.

      • Concerned Neighbor October 22, 2021 (9:28 am)

          I wonder how much of the “merchants not seeing lower sales” in the junction also includes online sales though?  That could contribute to their sales being steady, and not directly contributed to live junction consumers.  Could be a false positive survey.

    • Kevin on Delridge October 22, 2021 (9:26 am)

      Are you against removing single family zoning? Because if so, this is the result of that position. We seem to want to simultaneously shove any additional housing into these shopping corridors, arterials, and collectors; while somehow ensuring they remain accessible to those living far away from it. While also ensuring we don’t add more traffic/cars.

      “And don’t take away our trees! And… why are these buildings so big and ugly!? How am I supposed to come extract the value being produced in this place if I can’t park!?”

      These positions are long past the point of non-sensical.

    • JVP October 22, 2021 (9:49 am)

      With property taxes being what they are, there’s just no way that a surface parking lot can stay solvent. These lots pretty much have to be developed. I would hope they provide public underground parking that is equivalent to current parking.

      I actually think these proposals are pretty good, from my locals point of view. I prefer this midrise type stuff vs going up to full height zoning. That said, I kind of think these proposals are pie in the sky. I’m not sure if they can make them pencil given how expensive it is to both build and operate in Seattle these days. Hopefully they’ve done their math with eyes wide open.

  • Patricia Rollins October 21, 2021 (10:02 pm)

    WHY REMOVE ALL OF THE PARKING??  It will kill “The Junction” as we now know it.Give us back parking in each lot!  Less buildings!!  Just because it’s there, shouldn’t mean cover it up with structures!

    • Zoomy October 22, 2021 (7:50 am)

      Agreed, in a modern and realistic world we live in we need some parking. 

    • reed October 22, 2021 (8:20 am)

      Yes, it will kill the Junction as it is currently known, and vastly improve it for everyone, including pearl-clutching sky screamers that have lived here for decades.

      • Kevin on Delridge October 22, 2021 (10:36 am)

        Imagine being so opinionated about someone else’s lived environment while simultaneously rejecting any re-thinking of your own.

        • sr October 24, 2021 (7:44 pm)

          So true. Also! We used to live in the junction and we could walk everywhere. Now we unfortunately don’t, but whenever we drive to it (during peak hours even) there’s plenty of (free) street parking if you’re willing to walk a few blocks. The notion that there is insufficient parking is mind boggling.

  • SpencerGT October 21, 2021 (10:06 pm)

    There is almost certainly no way to know what the trends are in sales for businesses in the Junction.  With lockdowns, lifting of restrictions, seasonality, different types of business etc., that would be a very challenging survey to conduct.

  • Foop October 21, 2021 (10:58 pm)

    Imagine believing that making a space more accommodating to more people would ‘ kill it’This would bring so much more life to the area.

  • The truth October 21, 2021 (10:59 pm)

    Unless I see one of these lots dedicated to healthcare services or an actual hospital, I don’t care to listen.  Let’s keep packing people on this side of a sketchy bridge, in an area prone to earthquakes and add zero hospitals…🤦‍♂️.Hopefully, some of this get developed for affordable housing, some for market rate and one as a hospital setting and ST hub.

    • Alki resident October 21, 2021 (11:53 pm)

      You want a hospital in the middle of the junction? Drive 20 minutes to Highline. 

      • Zoomy October 22, 2021 (7:55 am)

        Dedicated healthcare isn’t necessarily a hospital or a major hospital. Also, I bet one of those giant swaths of land the corporate apartment monsters snatched up near the Les Schwab or the WS lumber yard would have been perfect for a large healthcare facility. We do need better access to more healthcare options in West Seattle. Highline  doesn’t necessarily offer all of our healthcare needs in WS. Also, I agree that more energy should be spent on reliable infrastructure between here and downtown. The bridge is a perfect example. 2 years to repair a bridge? WTF 

      • AF12 October 22, 2021 (9:02 am)

        How about biking over an hour to the hospital for those 4% avid bike and bike lane enthusiasts!

    • Ice October 22, 2021 (12:01 am)

      I seriously doubt any of these lots would be adequate for a hospital. I think a hospital in West Seattle would be good, but I can’t really see any viable places for one. To build a hospital in West Seattle would require a huge amount of up-zoning and community activism. Also our healthcare system is a bit of a wreck right now, and most hospitals are not expanding. A hospital merely staying afloat is success right. now. A hospital is a nice idea but a bit of a pipe dream.

      • Derek October 22, 2021 (3:56 am)

        Hospital could go where west seattle stadium is. Perfect spot, 

        • My two cents … October 22, 2021 (11:56 am)

          Why do you advocate getting rid of WS Stadium? It’s being used be a wide variety of people.

      • Jerry October 22, 2021 (7:29 am)

        Services in West Seattle are abysmal. There aren’t enough doctors here of any type, the restaurant scene is stale, there’s almost no nightlife, and shelves at places like Walgreen’s and Target are far too often bare — and that definitely predates the supply chain issues of the pandemic. I’m all for urbanization of the peninsula, but only if jobs and services accompany it. This isn’t really a neighborhood if you have to leave it to do nearly everything. 

        • trickycoolj October 22, 2021 (5:20 pm)

          SO TRUE!  Don’t go grocery shopping on Sunday evening or Monday because you’ll find empty shelves abound at Safeway, QFC, TJs and Whole Foods.  The only other town I have experienced whole swaths of empty shelves at Safeway and QFC on a regular basis was Yelm where it was a 45 min drive to Olympia or Spanaway for the next store (oh wait it takes 45 min to get off this island too).  You know what fixed the supply problem in Yelm?  WalMart.

      • Brian October 22, 2021 (8:44 am)

        Bulldoze the golf course and make it a hospital attached to affordable dense housing. Solution found. 

        • AMC October 22, 2021 (4:56 pm)

          The golf course is a public space operated by Seattle Parks & Rec so while it might not be a golf course someday it’s never going to be hospital/housing.

  • Ice October 21, 2021 (11:47 pm)

    Looks good to me. Was it ever mentioned or asked if the ‘thru-block connections’ would be available to the public?

    • WSB October 22, 2021 (12:08 am)

      Yes, like the current ones on California between Alaska and Edmunds.

  • Derek October 22, 2021 (3:54 am)

    Can we get some arts and entertainment and less retail in the junction?? Where are the night clubs and music venues??

  • JeffK October 22, 2021 (6:17 am)

    Why are we adding more commuters to a central business core instead of more businesses?  And I mean courting a larger employer as an anchor.  Instead, this will be just hundreds more commuters in/out of WS every day with more housing.  There should be a focus on jobs here that WS residents might have a shot at instead of commuting away every day.  Yes, many of us work from home – but there area still a majority of people that don’t.   Housing is important, but more residents here on our ‘island’ means more traffic jams even when the bridge is operational if most have to go off-island to work. I guess in 10, 12, 15 years when light rail or whatever is figured out and built it will be better when the trains will be jammed with commuters.

  • west sea neighbor October 22, 2021 (7:31 am)

    Would any of these plans include any beautification of the alleys? They can feel pretty dingy, and may become moreso if enclosed by buildings on both sides. I see an opportunity here to increase the vibrancy and draw of the Junction, and welcome the change.

  • Mel October 22, 2021 (7:35 am)

    I’m disappointed in this. Regardless of whether you think we need more housing, this will completely change the small town feel of the junction. And I do believe it will impact property values and not for the better.

    • citygovtsucks October 22, 2021 (10:04 am)

      So, forget the people that need housing because of perceived “small town feel” and your lack of understanding about how property values increase?

      • Mel October 22, 2021 (3:30 pm)

        I grew up in the poorest neighborhoods in Seattle. So regardless of what you’re insinuating about my judgements, yes I do think I can still be concerned about preserving our small town feel. 

        • Kevin on Delridge October 23, 2021 (9:15 am)

          Would you mind defining “small town feel?”

  • Zoomy October 22, 2021 (7:58 am)

    Sweet let’s keep increasing density without ANY thought to surrounding infrastructure. Keep packing people into such a small space and not improve public services and infrastructure. West seattle has great charm. We can’t turn into another Capitol Hill where the density creates more problems than it solves. 

    • Kevin on Delridge October 22, 2021 (10:44 am)

      Density creates problems for those not living there. As a previous resident of Capitol Hill – I didn’t have any problem with the “density.” The only complaints I heard were from those who didn’t live there, but wanted to (or because of our zoning needed to) come to the neighborhood to extract the value of these urban spaces.

      This friction is a direct result of continuing to claim the vast majority of the city as zones  exclusively for single family residences.

  • anonyme October 22, 2021 (8:03 am)

    Site 1 would be a perfect site for a small hospital, approximately the size of SOI, offering emergency services and other specialties currently absent in West Seattle, like mammography.  Site 3 would be a great spot for a small food truck mall.  I don’t see any of the locations as being appropriate for family housing, but affordable senior housing would make sense.  The problem is that with the other major construction projects slated for California Ave., the Junction will be inaccessible for quite some time.

  • Rick October 22, 2021 (8:13 am)

    Follow the money. That usually clears things up.

    • Mr J October 22, 2021 (10:58 am)

      As pointed out in multiple blog posts around 70% of the junction dues goes to the property tax on these lots it’s not sustainable. 

  • DD October 22, 2021 (8:35 am)

    What would really help increase car-free access to the Junction for  Islanders is a shuttle that runs up and down California Avenue from north to south…more frequently than Metro buses/water taxi bus options. Sadly I know this is unlikely given driver shortages, lack of funding, etc.  But those of us who now drive to the Junction because we are physically challenged and cannot walk more than a couple of miles , nor safely ride a bike, would really love to have an alternative. 

    • anonyme October 22, 2021 (10:33 am)

      I’ve said this for years.  Even before the bridge fiasco, West Seattle needed some kind of circular shuttle for Junction shoppers, appointment goers, etc.  The current bus routes and schedules do not address this need. 

    • KM October 22, 2021 (12:54 pm)

      The 128 currently runs between Morgan Junction to Admiral Junction. Perhaps reimagining the 22 (extending to Admiral, not eliminating current stops) would be a possibility to increase frequency for the California Ave business districts, since it only serves West Seattle.  Maybe ridership numbers would help prevent the route for being cancelled (again).

      • anonyme October 22, 2021 (4:01 pm)

        That’s a great idea, allowing the #22 to hit all the major commercial districts in West Seattle.  Maybe add Alki as well, and increase frequency.  Practical, and makes a lot of sense – which means Metro would never go for it.

    • Yes to SkyLink October 22, 2021 (6:44 pm)

      Or perhaps a SkyLink gondola line

  • HS October 22, 2021 (8:56 am)

    Cool! Appreciate the great opening (visuals, clear history) for design discussions. And now we wait to see if the owners will sell, if they decide to develop themselves or continue to keep more and more valuable undeveloped land in their portfolio.

  • Greg October 22, 2021 (9:15 am)

    Who else here expects that “underground parking” will disappear before the construction breaks ground? These residents will end up parking on the streets with permitted long-term parking permits. We’ve seen this story before…

  • Oakley34 October 22, 2021 (9:21 am)

    Let’s house people not cars.

  • s October 22, 2021 (9:48 am)

    Incubator kitchen space sounds really cool, especially if it’s similar to the one that 9th and Hennepin operates out of, where there’s a window that they can sell out of. Kind of like food trucks in a building.

    • KM October 22, 2021 (10:10 am)

      I love this idea too! Hope it happens.

  • WS Taxpayer October 22, 2021 (9:55 am)

    I for one spend less time in the junction due to the lack of parking.  

    • Sherman Olsen October 22, 2021 (11:12 am)

      Parking is plentiful, especially now that the lots are charging nominal fees.

    • reed October 22, 2021 (11:28 am)

      That is your choice, my like my family decides to walk over a mile to get there.

    • Ice October 22, 2021 (2:23 pm)

      This is embarrassing to read. I’ve never once had a hard time parking at the junction. I don’t know anyone in my day-to-day life that has ever had a hard time parking at the junction Worst case scenario is paying 5 bucks for a space or walking 5 blocks. Funnier yet, studies show that people who walk and bike to businesses spend more money at them over time than people who drive, so if these new building are actually completed, the businesses aren’t going to miss you.

    • datamuse October 22, 2021 (4:27 pm)

      It’s easier to find parking now that the lots are pay to park, so this comment doesn’t make any sense to me.If you mean that free parking is easier to find, sure, I guess, but it wasn’t ever really free–it was just a question of who was paying for it.

    • Peter October 22, 2021 (11:43 pm)

      That is entirely by your own choice. There is ample free parking in the junction. Since 1999, I’ve only ever paid for parking in the junction twice.

  • Junction Fan October 22, 2021 (9:57 am)

    I think this is an exciting opportunity to re-invent the West Seattle Junction for the next 50 years. I like the ideas of incorporating pedestrian walkways, greenery and mini parks. We can’t keep them as parking lots forever.

    • Al October 22, 2021 (7:53 pm)

      Totally agreed. I also love the new parking-for-wealthy spots we have. It was a huge pain back in the days when poors were allowed to park next to us whenever they wanted. Good riddance!

  • MOSH October 22, 2021 (10:18 am)

    I’d love to see a skatepark to support all the kids that will be frequenting the new skate shop in the junction.

    • Auntie October 22, 2021 (2:55 pm)

      There is a skatepark at Delridge and Gennessee, which isn’t that far from the Junction.

      • bill October 23, 2021 (2:09 am)

        Get out of your car and walk (or skate) to Delridge and Gennessee. And then walk back up the hill and tell us how far it is!

  • Peter October 22, 2021 (10:27 am)

    Reality check re: hospitals. While I agree that WS does have need of a significant non-Catholic multi specialty medical facility, we quite simply do not have the population to support a full scale hospital. Yes, there are cities smaller than WS that have full hospitals, but those hospitals serve much larger areas than just the community they’re in, and that is not the case in WS. Also, you can’t just build a hospital. First you need to apply for a Certificate if Need from WA DOH by showing there is a shortage of necessary hospital beds in the region, and that there is a significant lack of access to inpatient services in the area. I don’t think a hospital WS would meet those criteria. https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/FacilitiesNewReneworUpdate/CertificateofNeed

    • Ice October 22, 2021 (4:58 pm)

      Thank you for posting that link. It is very interesting.

    • trickycoolj October 22, 2021 (5:24 pm)

      It would be great if we could get a full sized Polyclinic or UW Medicine facility over here.  Agree, St. Anne’s in Burien is not an option, it got bought out by Catholics.  I’d prefer religion to not be a part of my medical decisions.

  • Christine Cranston October 22, 2021 (5:14 pm)

    Make it all a Green Space. We need garden space, community gathering space, and pet friendly space more than anything else in this overly developed area. 

  • Resident October 23, 2021 (10:28 am)

    I honestly think city planners ignore the importance of cars and parking in Seattle. Our geography and weather is what makes the car the most ideal form of transportation. While I do think public transportation is important, I also think our system will never be like New York or Boston. Take for example just getting to the Junction. Almost every part of West Seattle is built on a hill, a family living near Alki practically has to drive to the Junction every time. Traveling by car and parking in the Junction takes 5 minutes, a bus takes 20-30 minutes and walking is easily over an hour. We will never have a light rail or bus system that will efficiently replace the car in terms of time and convenience. Let alone properly accomodate every neighborhood in West Seattle because in some way or form you will have to walk up or down a lot of hills to get to a station that would take you to the Junction. Which for a young person might be okay but for many the car is still the most convenient way to get somewhere. On top of that you have the weather which as we all know tends to rain most of the time from fall to early summer. That is going to detour most people from biking or wanting to walk somewhere even just 10 minutes away. I just wish people would understand this more when talking about eliminating parking or constantly charging more for street parking. We don’t live in a place with flat geography or warm dry weather, the car is almost always going to be the best form of transportation for accessing many parts of Seattle and the surrounding area. 

    • bill October 23, 2021 (9:28 pm)

      It’s as if the people who bike and walk here don’t. Or more likely, the people who drive here are closet Southern Californians who think rain is poisonous. One wonders how the aboriginal people here survived without designer Goretex.

  • Scubafrog October 23, 2021 (3:26 pm)

    Parking should be at a very high premium.  Sadly, WS at large hasn’t exactly been dutiful about demanding politicians force contractors put parking in new structures being built.  So, there’s no use in whining now.  It will be expensive.  And it’s WS’s fault, for local’s who’re relegated to said parking.  There’s an upside, tourists will generate money re paid-parking.  Hopefully more people go green.  Or get involved in Demanding your politicians force contractors put (much) more parking in new structures.   And/Or bike racks.

  • Roxy October 24, 2021 (11:23 am)

    I’d give anything to be able to “move home” again. As in – move back to Washington in general and West Seattle in particular – I grew up near the Junction. Years ago I could no longer afford to live anywhere in western Washington and moved to another state but every day for those long years I have been filled with homesickness. To this day! My vote is for affordable senior housing, of the kind that isn’t subsidized and definitely not “assisted care” but is truly affordable (sorry but $2500 per month for a studio is just not affordable for 99 percent of seniors!). Most seniors cannot pay market rent. The apartment I had before I left Seattle is now over $3k per month – with not even basic amenities. Surely there must be multi unit housing developers out there who could pull this off? Maybe with some local/state/federal government assistance in terms of incentives or co-development programs? Thanks for listening to this “Seattle expat”!

  • MOREMASSTRANSIT November 4, 2021 (8:44 pm)

    Transportation is a key issue before even thinking of building up. With all the new apartment buildings opening @Alaska and Fauntleroy or in design review (Alki Lumber), all the single-family lots replaced by 6-10 townhomes, it’s time to press for public transportation – skylink or light rail – as a condition for further development. Northgate has the capacity to develop now that it has Link. West Seattle does not. 

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