Here’s where, and when, you will soon have to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination (or negative test results) in King County

Nine days ago, as reported here, King County announced a vaccination-verification policy for some businesses/venues was under consideration. Today, it’s official – in less than six weeks, you’ll have to show proof you’re vaccinated – or have tested negative – to dine, drink, work out, or attend entertainment events indoors, and to attend larger events outdoors. From the announcement just made public:

To protect customers and workers, preserve hospital capacity and help prevent business closures, King County will require verification of full vaccination status or a negative test to enter outdoor public events of 500 or more people and indoor entertainment and recreational establishments and events such as live music, performing arts, gyms, restaurants, and bars. The requirements will go into effect on October 25 for outdoor venues and the majority of indoor establishments; December 6 for restaurants with seating capacity for 12 and under.

With continued high levels of preventable COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations and increased deaths driven by the Delta variant, serious stress on our regional healthcare system, and concern for a significant outbreak resurgence this fall and winter, King County Executive Dow Constantine, Seattle Mayor Jenny A. Durkan, and community, health care, small business, and arts and culture partners joined in support of requiring verification of full vaccination or a negative test to enter certain indoor and outdoor activities and establishments.

A Health Order issued today by Public Health – Seattle & King County Health Officer Dr. Jeff Duchin, going into effect on October 25, will protect customers and workers through providing safer spaces, protecting our health care system, and helping prevent business closures. It will apply to:

• Outdoor events with 500 people or more – such as professional and collegiate sports and entertainment events

• Indoor entertainment and recreational events or establishments – such as professional and collegiate sports, entertainment, performing arts, museums, theatre, live music, gyms, and conferences/conventions.

• Restaurants and bars (including indoor dining) – this does NOT apply to outdoor dining, take-out customers, and places that aren’t primarily used as a restaurant, such as grocery stores.

The order gives the option for a longer preparation period for smaller restaurants and bars with a seating capacity of 12 or less, with an implementation date of December 6. The entire order is not expected to be permanent. It will be reviewed no later than six months after the October 25th implementation date to assess its continued need based on future outbreak conditions.

An analysis by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) conducted for King County found that the vaccine verification policy at restaurants, bars and gyms/fitness centers alone could have a significant positive impact, preventing between 17,900 and 75,900 infections, 421 and 1,760 hospitalizations and 63 and 257 deaths locally over six months with the order in place. …

Several forms of vaccination proof will be permitted under the order, including:

• Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) COVID-19 vaccination record card or photo of card.

• printed certificate or QR code (available in late September) from (MyIR Mobile is currently limited to English language only. For language assistance, or additional help getting your records, call the Washington State Vaccine Helpline at 833-VAX-HELP (833-829-4357) or email

• other official immunization record from within or outside the United States, including from your health care provider. A photo or photocopy of this card is also acceptable.

The order defines full vaccination as two weeks after the second dose of Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or two weeks after one dose of Johnson & Johnson vaccine, or two weeks after completing another approved vaccine. No personal identification with proof of vaccination will be required.

For people who are unvaccinated or cannot prove vaccine status, they will be required to show proof of a negative PCR COVID-19 test in the last 72 hours, or a negative rapid test result from a testing provider conducted on site at an event or establishment just prior to entry. Individuals under 12 years of age, who are not eligible to be vaccinated, are not required to be tested for entry.

Establishments will be responsible for checking vaccination proof or negative test status. Public Health, King County and City of Seattle will be working with partners to provide technical support and educational materials to businesses and organizations implementing the order. King County, the City of Seattle and Public Health developed the vaccine verification policy in consultation with Public Health’s Pandemic and Racism Community Advisory Group, cities, small businesses, chambers of commerce, labor unions, trade associations, sports teams, entertainment venues, community groups, faith-based leaders throughout the county to create a policy that aims to be workable, fair, and equitable for businesses and residents. …

Currently, 68% of the total King County population and 79% of eligible King County residents (those 12 years of age and up) have completed their vaccination series against COVID-19, including more than 70% of every eligible age group and all racial groups tracked by Public Health. There are nearly 300,000 King County residents who are eligible but have not yet started their vaccination series.

Anyone needing COVID-19 vaccine can visit to find a vaccine in their neighborhood. To date, more than three million vaccine doses have been administered in King County.

The announcement does not mention what if any penalties establishments/venue face if they don’t comply. A website with more about the new policy has just gone live here.

ADDED: Here’s the official order – see page 4 for exemptions (such as school sporting events).

173 Replies to "Here's where, and when, you will soon have to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination (or negative test results) in King County"

  • heartless September 16, 2021 (3:46 pm)

    No personal identification with proof of vaccination will be required.”

    Please tell me I am misunderstanding that statement.

    • AmandaK September 16, 2021 (4:28 pm)

      There are issues with tragic people faking vaccine cards, but that amount of folks is pretty small, and non-sequitur to residents without ID to show. 

      • Oakley34 September 16, 2021 (5:56 pm)

        You’re probably right.

      • 22blades September 17, 2021 (6:03 am)

        Get caught & it’s a felony. That’ll look good in your next interview.

    • Oakley34 September 16, 2021 (4:44 pm)

      Yeah unless I also misunderstand someone could obtain an image of a filled out vaccination record online or whatever and pretty easily pass that as a photo of their record.  Maybe less easily done at a gym or somewhere that knows your name, but seems like a pretty large loophole.  

    • D September 16, 2021 (5:05 pm)

      Nope, that shows the farce that this is.

    • major_sigh September 16, 2021 (10:57 pm)

      More importantly, why Oct 25? Why not next week?

      • EJ September 17, 2021 (9:44 am)

        I think the idea is to give holdouts sufficient time to get fully vaccinated prior to implementation.

  • uncle loco September 16, 2021 (4:06 pm)

    “Just 2 weeks to flatten the curve…”  Still think this all about public health?

  • anonyme September 16, 2021 (4:33 pm)

    In other words “no proof of vaccination required”.  Also, a photocopy is the easiest thing on earth to forge.  I do not understand these mandates that are completely toothless and meaningless.  Why bother?  Another lame gesture by Durkan and Constantine, guaranteed to incite idiotic anti-vax anger for absolutely no purpose.

    • Shel September 16, 2021 (8:03 pm)

      What would you prefer, a stamp on the forehead?

      • anonyme September 17, 2021 (5:44 pm)

        No need for such drama.  A simple I.D. would do.

  • Pessoa September 16, 2021 (4:43 pm)

    West Seattle businesses: I encourage you to add outdoor seating at your establishment to service those like myself who refuse to show proof of vaccination in order to participate in society. We know this order puts some of you in a bind, but yes, there are principles even more important than personal safety. 

    • Ktrapp September 16, 2021 (4:57 pm)

      I assume you wear a shirt and shoes when dining out, and don’t ask that the restaurants make special accommodations for those people who don’t want to follow that rule, correct?  So why should the restaurants make an exemption for the societal rule that you don’t want to follow?

    • SlimJim September 16, 2021 (5:22 pm)

      Yo Pessoa – I guess by “principles more important than personal safety” you mean “principles more important than my own or someone else’s death”? 

    • Jort September 16, 2021 (6:00 pm)

      West Seattle businesses: I encourage you to ignore pleas from the tiny minority of people who are allowing their political ideology to take precedence over public health and societal good. The overwhelming majority of West Seattle residents, who are vaccinated, will thank you for shunning and excluding these anti-social people who are doing everything they possibly can to make their fellow neighbors ill by prolonging the deadliest pandemic in modern history. These people do not need special accommodations to ensure their political-based feelings aren’t hurt. They need to stay home where they will no longer harm their neighbors. They’re more than welcome to join civil society whenever they want, but I do understand how difficult it can be to admit that you’ve been wrong and I deeply suspect these people will never be capable of that kind of reflection. I look forward to feeling safer when I dine out and visit businesses.

      • Canton September 16, 2021 (7:45 pm)

        Ok, so let’s open up our personal medical records to all? If we’re gonna do that, how bout other medical information that may be of interest to others. Do you (asking YOU) do you have any std’s that you’re currently taking medication for? Are you currently vaccinated against the flu, SARS, Ebola, hantavirus, norovirus, rhinovirus? Can I ask you to protect me from all of those? No. Life is full of bad possibilities, but I do not expect YOU, to protect me from them. Freedom is choice. But please,  answer all those questions in detail.

        • Jort September 16, 2021 (8:42 pm)

          Canton, I know that you and other sensitive conservatives are no strangers to histrionic hyperbole, believing that this is truly the end of freedom as we know it. But you don’t have to lie, just outright lie, about imaginary vaccines that don’t exist for things like hantavirus and norovirus. Also, STDs and other viruses aren’t suddenly killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. If they were, and they were wildly contagious through public spaces, and a vaccine were available, and they were overwhelming out public health systems, then yes, we would have mandates for those, too. It’s not complicated, you’re just on the wrong side of the “debate” no matter how self-righteous your right-wing media ecosystem allows you to feel. This kind of “whatabout” isms and “what ifs” are just outgrowths of the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of modern conservative “thinking.” If you still think this imaginary fantasy land of “personal freedom” is so important, good news, you can stay home and deal with being a social outcast. And, no, I’m not answering morally bankrupt joke questions about non-existent vaccines and imaginary hypotheticals “in detail.” I and the overwhelming majority of people in this community don’t need to answer your “questions. We’ve done the right thing by getting vaccinated, so we’re all going out to get dinner. Those who have chosen not to get vaccinated are welcome to sulk and pout about it in the self-absorbed freedom bubble of Facebook memes, Tucker Carlson’s scrunchy faces and Seattle Times comment sections. But they can do it at home, away from the rest of civil society, while the rest of us move on and live happy, healthy lives.

          • Canton September 16, 2021 (9:21 pm)

            If you are vaccinated,  you are safe, right. The unvaccinated and the 100 million people that may have antibodies are no threat to you. You are safe. Don’t worry. The problem is the people like you are making this political. Health is not political. You do you, but your totalitarian ideology is not helping. It’s doing the opposite. 

          • Canton September 16, 2021 (10:11 pm)

            If the state was serious, why are religious exemptions, and personal reasons not acknowledged? This is a slippery slope that does not bode well for lawsuits. And who will pay for all the issues, the taxpayers, at no hardship to those elected. Just our collective money being spent on bad decisions. 

          • Marion September 19, 2021 (9:40 am)

            300,000 people in Seattle not vaccinated.  They are all conservative?  

        • Jill Loblaw September 20, 2021 (5:50 am)

          Canton, don’t be so melodramatic. Your statement about freedom is so hypocritical. I have a feeling that when antivaxxers say my body my choice that they feel entitled to to say that they would be comfortable with limiting women’s reproductive choices.  Heck, you can’t even come up with a good protest chant since it was stolen from women who demand the very same ability to be autonomous over their own bodies. 

      • We Are Not China September 16, 2021 (8:13 pm)

        Jort I know you would love to live in a communist country,  but this is America and as of now it’s a free country. This vaccine mandate is going to do nothing but hurt businesses, as I know many people who are vaccinated who are not going to show their “papers” to be allowed into an establishment. If  businesses want to decide on their own that they want vaccine passports to enter, that’s their right as an individual business, and it’s also my right to not patronize them. When the government comes in and mandates that all of these businesses enforce a vaccine passport policy, that is government overreach at it’s worst. I know you hate freedom Jort, but those of us that love it are going to fight(peacefully) against this with everything we have. 

        • Jort September 16, 2021 (8:55 pm)

          Good luck with your fight! You’ll lose, but I’m sure you’ll have a blast getting all worked up about it on Facebook! Signed, Jort “I HATE Freedom” Sandwich

          • ST September 17, 2021 (9:55 am)

            A lot of word salad coming from Jort.  Also, I routinely see your responses on the blog and when read out loud they sound a lot like bullying. Maybe reconsider harassing people and threatening businesses for not making the same choices as you.   You’re not going to persuade anybody by using anger to guide your argument.   Besides, King County is doing really well with vaccination rates (85%+). It’s not like only half the county is vaccinated and you have to go full authoritarian to vaccinate more people. I’d suggest going out to a bar, show your card, have a beer and talk to people with different opinions and perspectives. Don’t be so antisocial! 

          • Jill Loblaw September 20, 2021 (5:51 am)

            Loving your response! High five!

      • Julian September 17, 2021 (10:26 pm)

        They seriously have no idea whether unvaccinated or vaccinated people spread the virus more in actual daily life.  They stopped tracking asymptomatic cases awhile ago.  Before that, they stopped automatically testing vaccinated people unless they were symptomatic.  Right now in King County, VACCINATED people are driving the spread of the virus because they are the majority.  If there is a study that is peer reviewed that states this is helpful, that’s one thing.  There is not though and there never will be.This is pure virtue signaling and very disturbing how little so many people care about how these decisions are made (no matter where you land on this).  

        • heartless September 18, 2021 (8:38 am)


          They seriously have no idea whether unvaccinated or vaccinated people spread the virus more in actual daily life.”

          People who are vaccinated are less likely to catch Covid, and therefore less likely to spread it.  That’s a fact.  

          Perhaps you are confused because at a population level transmission can be dominated by the vaccinated in certain high-vax areas.  But that is the wrong statistic to look at, because that metric relies on the percent vaccinated in any given area. 

          Think of it this way: assume you have a town where nobody ever drives drunk.  What percent of accidents are caused by sober drivers?  100%!  Does this mean that sober drivers are as dangerous as drunks?  No, of course not, because we are conflating raw cases and percentages.

          Similarly, if you have a town where 100% of the population is vaccinated, ALL of the cases of Covid transmission will be due to vaccinated people spreading it.  But, again, this doesn’t mean that the chances of vaccinated and unvaccinated spread are the same.  This is referred to as Simpson’s paradox.

          While I don’t know who your mysterious and yet oft-cited “they” are, if a person is vaccinated they are MUCH less likely to get Covid, and MUCH less likely to transmit it to others.

          If you want to protect others from Covid, one of the best things you can do is get vaccinated.

          • Marion September 19, 2021 (9:44 am)

            Well said. 

    • Steve September 16, 2021 (6:06 pm)

      Pessoa, I hope you are vaccinated and this is not “the year of the death of Ricardo Reis”!

      • Pessoa September 16, 2021 (7:52 pm)

        Ah, we have a literati among us!

    • 22blades September 17, 2021 (6:20 am)

      They have places already. Idaho, Texas or Florida. No Vax ID required there. Problem solved.

    • Mellow Kitty September 20, 2021 (9:46 am)

      I encourage you to order takeout or curbside pickup. 

  • Slippery Slope September 16, 2021 (4:54 pm)

    Anyone who is even remotely okay w this needs to take a long hard look in the mirror, Comrade. 

    • heartless September 16, 2021 (5:30 pm)

      George Washington enforced vaccinations.

      The Supreme Court ruled vaccine mandates constitutional in about 1900.  

      Vaccines and vaccine mandates are about as American as apple pie.  

      Time for you to learn some history, maybe.

      • WSB September 16, 2021 (5:55 pm)

        Interesting historical point … to spare anyone else the google:

      • Pessoa September 16, 2021 (7:44 pm)

        Heartless, and all of those decisions, court or otherwise, were products of their historical epoch and far from universally agreed upon, for example the “Jacobson versus Massachusetts St” Supreme Court decision of 1902 was 7-2.  Even the majority opinion recognized the dangers of police action. What is very alarming is that the assault on personal liberty is now coming from the left in a manner that makes the right look like hapless beginners. 

        • heartless September 16, 2021 (8:10 pm)

          “…dangers of police action”


          Do seatbelts next!

          • Me September 16, 2021 (11:15 pm)

            Bad analogy. You wear a seatbelt to save YOUR life, not mine.  And if YOU are ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt, you are not then barred from life’s normal social activities . “Oh look, that guy walking up to the gym doors got a ticket for not wearing his seatbelt, don’t let him in!”  No your analogy fails in more ways than one.   This is about creepy totalitarian control and  it’s looking like some people delight in it.  Maybe these same totalitarians stick needles into living insects too, just to watch.  

      • History is a funny thing September 16, 2021 (10:11 pm)

        That’s an era of many terrible Supreme Court decisions:

        Plessy v. Ferguson (1896) separate but equal a-ok

        Cumming v. Richmond (1899) closing the only school for black citizens and using all tax money for white schools is fine

        Lochner v. New York (1905) no right to limit hours worked

        Hammer v. Dagenhart (1918) – child labor? No problem

        Buck v. Bell (1927) where the court upheld the progressive eugenicists idea of forced sterilization, which the Jacobsen decision provided a basis for.

        • CAM September 17, 2021 (2:45 am)

          Did you want to list the many other 100s of decisions from that same period that wouldn’t meet your criteria as disturbing or offensive? You’re cherry picking and saying that because this is bad makes that bad which is not valid logic or argument in any court of law. 

        • heartless September 17, 2021 (9:15 am)

          Oh, absolutely.  

          This country is racist as hell, and has an incredibly ugly history, with lots of really bad decisions along the way.

          But here’s the thing: I am here responding to a very argument, one I see frequently in these comment sections.  And that type of post goes like this: This is so un-American we are now basically China!  This country is suddenly going down a dangerous path!  I can’t believe my country has come to this!

          As a complete invalidation of that argument I point out that, well, no, none of this is new, and it has been happening on this soil since before we even became the USA.  Pushing vaccines–even vaccines inarguably more dangerous than this one–has been happening FOREVER.  It is not new.  And unless you want to argue that George Washington and the Americans of the 1700s were un-American, the argument that this is the beginning of a slippery slope, or is communist, or is un-American–well those people are just being stupid (or disingenuous, but let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and consider them stupid).

          Does that make sense enough to you?

          • History is a funny thing September 17, 2021 (5:23 pm)

            While I can understand your reaction to hearing the slippery slope argument for many things, this one actually has some merit, as Jacobsen was used in part as the basis for Buck. That is precisely the argument. Do I think the eugenicists will make a comeback and there could be another decision as horrifying as Buck? Probably not, but that does not invalidate the historical precedent that was established and did happen already.

          • heartless September 17, 2021 (7:23 pm)

            History: Fair point.

  • Al King September 16, 2021 (5:09 pm)

    Pessoa. Principals even more important than personal safety. WOW! really??? Tell us what they are. 

    • Pessoa September 16, 2021 (7:29 pm)

      Dunno, AL, thousands of young men who sacrificed their lives in WWII, and those who ordered them into battle seemed to think some things were more important than life itself. You know, a centipede has a remarkable zest for life, too.

      • datamuse September 16, 2021 (9:08 pm)

        For which they had to receive vaccines for typhoid, smallpox, and tetanus, or be court-martialed.

      • Ron Swanson September 16, 2021 (9:14 pm)

        A fun fact for you, those WW2 GIs were required to take typhoid, smallpox, and tetanus vaccines, and soldiers who refused vaccination were subject to court-martials.

        • Canton September 16, 2021 (9:52 pm)

          Yes, my grandfather was a ww2 vet. He fought for the freedom we were once allowed. All those afflictions have had decades to figure it out. This new virus,  less than a year. A year ago, 0% were vaccinated,  today, around 70 percent vaccinated. But the numbers are still getting bad. Why?…….

          • zark00 September 17, 2021 (10:16 am)

            @ Canton – You’re grandad would be really embarrassed of you right now. Did you not sign your selective services card? Can you not recognize this as a call to action?  I Just imagine sitting down and telling my grandad, who also served, the things you’re spouting here. He would be so ashamed of me. Can’t even fathom trying to use his legacy to defend such an anti-American position.  

      • Jort September 17, 2021 (12:12 am)

        It is so fascinating to see people conflate their steadfast dedication to ensuring their political party never has to admit they were wrong about COVID with … World War II veterans. Cringeworthy. Grow up, get your shot, and deal with the fact that liberals were right and you were wrong. It won’t be the end of the world. 

        • Pessoa September 17, 2021 (7:03 am)

          Why not address me directly, Jort, instead of these tangential rambling rebuttals? 

        • Villagegreen September 17, 2021 (8:24 am)

          Jort, I love you.

        • WSMomFemaleVeteran September 17, 2021 (3:13 pm)

          Jort, you are so right! Proactively protecting your fellow Americans is much more patriotic than arguing about common sense public health measures. Wear a mask, show your card and enjoy your privilege. Much of the world can’t even get a vaccine. 

  • uncle loco September 16, 2021 (5:47 pm)

    So we’re all sick until proven healthy?

    • Jort September 16, 2021 (6:16 pm)

      You should look up how viral pandemics work. Might be good to know. Better late than never and we’re never too old to learn something new. 

      • Julian September 17, 2021 (10:30 pm)

        You should look up the conclusive evidence that says vaccinated people don’t spread the virus in a material significant less way than the unvaccinated do in daily life.Oh wait, you can’t!

        • heartless September 18, 2021 (8:50 am)


          A vaccinated person is less likely to catch Covid.  If you don’t catch Covid…  (wait for it)….  You can’t spread it.

          I think you are confused because as the rates of vaccination go up then the percent of cases spread by vaccinated people will also increase–but that statistic doesn’t mean what you think it means.  I’m just going to copy and paste from my previous reply to your confusion:

          Perhaps you are confused because at a population level transmission can be dominated by the vaccinated in certain high-vax areas.  But that is the wrong statistic to look at, because that metric relies on the percent vaccinated in any given area. 

          Think of it this way: assume you have a town where nobody ever drives drunk.  What percent of accidents are caused by sober drivers?  100%!  Does this mean that sober drivers are as dangerous as drunks?  No, of course not, because we are conflating raw cases and percentages.

          Similarly, if you have a town where 100% of the population is vaccinated, ALL of the cases of Covid transmission will be due to vaccinated people spreading it.  But, again, this doesn’t mean that the chances of vaccinated and unvaccinated spread are the same.  This is referred to as Simpson’s paradox.

          Of course when you look at the appropriate statistics you don’t fall into this fallacy, and there are plenty of studies (and just plain science and logic) that have shown vaccinated people are less likely to transmit Covid.  (They are easy to find online, and no, I’m not going to do your homework for you (anymore than I already have, I guess))

  • Mark32 September 16, 2021 (5:53 pm)

    As someone who has been vaccinated, I have a difficult time with the requirement to show proof.

    It worries me how people don’t understand how slippery this slope can be.

    • heartless September 16, 2021 (6:05 pm)

      I know!

      What’s next? 
      Requirement to show proof of age in order to buy certain things?
      Requirement to show proof of insurance in order to exercise the god given right to drive?
      Requirements to show ID to enter certain buildings, or to travel?!? 

      Where will it end?!


      • Pessoa September 16, 2021 (7:19 pm)

        When I read your attempts at sarcasm, Heartless, it reminds me of a line from “Amadeus” where the young Mozart, perplexed at Salieri’s clumsy writing  turns to him and says: “It doesn’t really work, does it?”

        • Jort September 16, 2021 (11:36 pm)

          Mozart also died at age 35.

        • Mellow Kitty September 20, 2021 (10:07 am)

          Yes, lets follow the logic of one of the most inaccurate biopic of all times. In fact, why stop there? I hear there’s some good zombie flicks that teach people how to deal with viruses, also plenty of video games, and at least one boardgame I played as a kid. Personally, when I look for medical advice, I watch Chicago Hope. Oh! And ER had some good episodes about virus outbreaks, too. 

      • Wseattleite September 16, 2021 (8:00 pm)

        Requirement to show proof of ID to vote in an election?  Oh…..never mind.

  • River September 16, 2021 (5:57 pm)

    Pointless.  Just another attempt to divide people and make things even more difficult for businesses.  We’re at 85% and many others have natural immunity.  This won’t convince anyone to get the shot who hasn’t already.  

  • vee September 16, 2021 (6:04 pm)

    can not believe how selfish people are  who wont get vaccinated are. everything isnt all about you- do you want to be responsible for a childs death- it s be cause we have a vaccine that we can open businesses and grocery stores and theatre  and games  and we arent all unemployed  and our whole economy hasnt collasped – be grateful and be  a grown up  with some morales 

    • Thoughts September 16, 2021 (6:27 pm)

      You know vaccinated people can spread covid too right? If you’ve been jabbed then what’s the worry?

      • Thoughtful September 17, 2021 (12:44 pm)

        Although your risk of transmission is significantly decreased once vaccinated, I can carry the disease to an unvaccinated person. AKA my kids and other children under 12 who are not eligible for the vaccine. So yeah, I’m safe, but my kids aren’t. That’s the worry. 

    • Spencer September 20, 2021 (5:55 pm)

      You’re right.Everything is about the vaccinated people, who may or may not catch covid from an unvaccinated person who is walking by.  Therefore, the unvaccinated people must make a personal health decision, because it is not about them.

  • TJ September 16, 2021 (6:11 pm)

    It’s more than a slippery slope. Lots of people around here who supported local politicians calling Trump a tyrant. Seems more than hypocritical now if you support this. And news flash; the unvaccinated aren’t the ones calling for and supporting these mandates. Which leads to the question of when does this end? When Delta fizzles out? Doubt it, as they will be pushing another variant to worry about. The line in the sand is drawn though as even many vaccinated have saif they will never get a booster, so if the tyrants try to push more shots on us down the road that’s where this ends 

    • Brian September 17, 2021 (8:15 am)

      “They will be pushing a new variant to worry about…” nice conspiracy theory you got here. 

      • J September 17, 2021 (3:53 pm)

        Yeah and covid passports were a conspiracy too.

    • Bronson September 17, 2021 (8:18 am)

      You’re right TJ; the unvaccinated aren’t the ones calling for and supporting these mandates. No, they are just overwhelming our hospitals to the point where others who cannot take a simple preventative step like a vaccine, are unable to secure critical and sometimes life-saving treatments. All because a bunch of selfish (insert curse word here) people can’t see that they have a part to play in ending this “government overreach,” and either the can’t see or don’t care that their actions continue to cost innumerable lives. 

    • Mellow Kitty September 20, 2021 (10:11 am)

      There were mask mandates under 45 also. There were no vaccine mandates under 45 because . . . THERE WERE NO COVID VACCINES AVAILABLE. 

  • Dean W Fuller September 16, 2021 (6:16 pm)

    King County can shove it.

  • Brayton September 16, 2021 (6:28 pm)

    I would much rather show my vaccination cards than have all these businesses closed again to contain the spread.

  • jack September 16, 2021 (6:30 pm)

    So, if everyone is screened going into a bar, restaurant, movie theater or gym etc, will we still be required to wear a mask?

    • AdmyralByrd September 16, 2021 (10:25 pm)

      THIS.  Particularly the gym.  And having walked up/down California tonight there’s no masking while at a restaurant or bar.  i’m all for this and no problem with showing the data, but for the love of god if I’m on the treadmill stop with the mask….

      • S.A. September 19, 2021 (1:15 pm)

        Do you understand that BOTH vaccines and masks are part of stopping transmission? Because vaccinated people can still catch and transmit (though at a much lower rate than unvaccinated), masks are part of cutting off THAT avenue of spreading.

      • JES September 20, 2021 (5:30 am)

        I went through my entire labor and delivery in a mask, you’ll be fine. 

  • Not showing papers September 16, 2021 (6:32 pm)

    I was an early fully vaccinated person, but I REFUSE to show proof. I’m sorry to the businesses that I generally support, but this is too important of an issue to give up. I wish you the best in your struggles to keep your doors open and I am sorry you are caught in the middle of this issue.

    • Above September 16, 2021 (6:54 pm)

      Pretty much this ^

      • Auntie September 16, 2021 (7:25 pm)

        I won’t miss you and neither will these businesses. There are plenty of us who don’t mind just showing our ID  (kind of like when you have to prove you are 21) and moving along to our night out. Stay home. Have some popcorn. Enjoy your own company. 

        • Wseattleite September 16, 2021 (8:07 pm)

          IDs are public record.  Health records are not.  Inappropriate comparison.

        • Lisa H September 16, 2021 (9:12 pm)

          I know, right.  Businesses don’t need customers.  What are they thinking?

    • Just wondering September 16, 2021 (7:20 pm)

      “Stupid is as stupid does”Forest Gump

    • Anne September 16, 2021 (7:23 pm)

      That’s your choice – you could also show negative COVID test- you can also just order take out – or just not patronize any business- no one is making you do anything- you have choices. 

  • LG September 16, 2021 (6:56 pm)

    I will gladly show my vaccination proof. Proud of it. Thank you to the businesses that see the importance of it. It seems the unvaccinated people who complained and refused to wear a mask early on this pandemic are much of the reason why we are still in this mess. 

  • 98126res September 16, 2021 (7:32 pm)

    Tragically divisive, including in our families.  This is a personal matter of respect, not a tool to extend temporary government control and invade privacy.

    • Bronson September 17, 2021 (8:22 am)

      Yes, those of us who are vaccinated and masking are showing the unvaccinated the personal respect of trying to save their lives by not spreading it to, and/or providing additional time for, them to overcome whatever outlandish and unfounded concerns they have so that they go and get their vaccine. Unbelievable! 

    • HKeckley September 18, 2021 (4:48 am)

      “Tragically divisive?”you are a grown person with an embarrassing victim complex. You and your ridiculous like-minded peers are determined to call yourselves the persecuted. It’s pitiful! Imagine your kids growing up and learning how you behaved and your selfishness in the midst of a global pandemic. You should be ashamed, but based on the comments of others like you, you don’t have the capacity for self awareness and the ability to admit your self centered attitude are dead wrong. Just stay home then and the rest of the grown folks will enjoy patronizing our wonderful WS businesses while you continue to sulk, complain and post these sophomoric comments 🙄

  • foodie September 16, 2021 (7:42 pm)

    I can’t wait for this to be put in place! It allows patrons and employees to feel safer. If you refuse to get the vaccine or think it’s “too far” to show a piece of paper to enter somewhere then stay home or move to a state that has banned mandates. This is how the public can be protected and move forward. Most people in King County won’t even be affected by this since 79% are fully vaccinated. 

    • Pessoa September 16, 2021 (9:11 pm)

      The same rules can be applied to you, as well. If you feel uncomfortable being out despite the very small risk to yourself or transmitting asymptomatically to others, why not stay home instead of mandating that someone else get vaccinated – irrespective of that fact that they conceivably might less be less of a risk than you? If you do go out – and I hope you do – you are certainly able to take any additional precautions or follow any orders the business might put in place to avoid creating a “petri dish” environment. 

      • CAM September 17, 2021 (2:56 am)

        I don’t know why I’m bothering because you aren’t engaging in conversation and nothing anyone says will make any difference to you whatsoever, but there is no circumstance here where the 85% needs to cater to the 15% in terms of allowing them to dictate where they can go and feel safe and have access to an environment less likely to make them sick. The businesses people will be restricted access to are not such that people won’t be able to continue enjoying their freedoms on a daily basis. Your freedoms don’t entitle you or anyone else to threaten the safety of others. When those people have taken the necessary steps to protect themselves and others around them, they get to enjoy the privileges that come with that. That’s called being a part of a functioning society. Don’t like it? Go be a hermit somewhere and be self sufficient. Living in a community surrounded by others means you are agreeing to be part of the social contract and it’s that simple. 

        • Canton September 18, 2021 (12:14 am)

          No such thing as a ‘social contract”. I didn’t sign one, did you?

    • EMV September 16, 2021 (11:04 pm)

      It’s a violation of rights. Please consider those who wish to retain the rights bestowed upon our citizens if not out of simple respect for the oceans of blood shed 200 some years ago. The blood that let us become a nation that is the envy of every other. 

      • Bronson September 17, 2021 (8:23 am)

        For the millionth time, your rights do not include actions that kill other people. Your rights end at my right to life. People that harp on about rights really do need a civics class.

      • heartless September 17, 2021 (9:28 am)


        This again?

        It’s not a violation of rights.  And it’s CERTAINLY not a violation of “American” rights.  You talk about the history of this country, but you embarrass yourself with how little you know. 

        Let’s go back to the original colonies of this country: people wanting to come here were quarantined at sea in their boats until they were “vaccinated” (in reality a much cruder and more dangerous inoculation, which only underlines the point) and only then allowed ashore.  THE FOUNDING OF OUR NATION INCLUDED PEOPLE BEING FORCED TO GET VACCINATIONS.

        The blood that let us become a nation that is the envy of every other.” 
        Must really grind your gears that that blood was inoculated against a virus, eh?  Oops…

  • Wseattleite September 16, 2021 (7:47 pm)

    it will be interesting when asked for my proof of vaccination how the facility will respond to my question as to proof that their program is HIPPA compliant with the information provided.  The whole mandate seems rife with potential violations of this law that exists to protect us. 

    • heartless September 16, 2021 (8:05 pm)

      They might just laugh at you, since HIPAA (not HIPPA, btw) is entirely irrelevant here.  I suggest you look up the actual rules, but, spoilers, they don’t apply to any of these situations.

      • Bandana September 16, 2021 (8:52 pm)

        That’s correct. Proof of vaccination is not a HIPAA valuation because of two reasons: 1. HIPAA only applies to healthcare organizations and 2. patients would be self-disclosing their status.

    • OneTimeCharley September 16, 2021 (8:16 pm)

      They will reply with something along the following: “Please show proof of either a) vaccination or b) recent negative covid test. If you are unable, or unwilling, for whatever reason, to provide either a or b above, then good bye. Please come back after the pandemic is over.”

    • Jort September 16, 2021 (8:53 pm)

      You should read what HIPAA actually is! Then maybe you’ll learn that the most likely reactions to citing “HIPAA” when you decline to show your proof of vaccination will be 1) outright laughter or 2) being asked to leave. HIPAA doesn’t apply. Better for you to learn, here, instead of embarrassing yourself in front of people at the restaurant.

  • We Are Not China September 16, 2021 (8:27 pm)

    So based on the numbers 79% of eligible king county residents are fully vaccinated. That leaves 21% of eligible residents who  aren’t. This vaccine passport mandate is used under the guise to help businesses. How is turning away 21% of your customers going to help your business? How many more customers are these businesses going to lose who are vaccinated but don’t want to be forced to show papers to enter a business? Either these politicians know absolutely nothing about how to run a business or they are purposely trying to put these businesses under. Pretty horrible people we have in charge right now. More concerned about power and control than they are about people making a living and running a business

    • anonyme September 17, 2021 (8:04 am)

      Using your ‘logic’, it makes more sense to turn away 79% of business than to turn away 21%…? Huh.  Sounds like Trumpian math.

  • Freedumz September 16, 2021 (9:08 pm)

    I won’t be going to see my family in rural Texas for the holidays this year, but this comment section is certainly making me feel like I’m back there, so thanks, I guess.

  • TJ September 16, 2021 (9:14 pm)

    Blaming political ideology is a lazy excuse. Many unvaccinated people I know are far from republican. The demographics point to this fact. 

    • Jort September 16, 2021 (9:50 pm)

      No, they do not. This is a lie. The single greatest correlation with being unvaccinated is being a white republican male. Blaming political ideology is, in fact, an accurate assessment of our problem. I know conservatives don’t want to believe this, and have created an alternate reality world where they are never wrong about anything. That doesn’t change the fact that they’re wrong and their political ideology is to blame for prolonging the disease. Here, read and learn more, and stop saying things that aren’t true just because they make you feel better despite being wrong. This article should be accessible in Arizona, too.

      As of September 13, 2021, 52.8% of people in counties that voted for Biden were fully vaccinated compared to 39.9% of Trump counties, a 12.9 percentage point difference (Figure 1). While the rate of vaccination coverage has slowed in both county groups, the gap has widened over time (Figure 2).

      • Canton September 18, 2021 (12:04 am)

        Politics consume your mind, be mindful of that. This isn’t political,  you, and others are suggesting that; If people don’t agree with every aspect of your misinformed diatribe, they have no say? That is twisted, to say the least.

    • 98126res September 17, 2021 (7:29 am)

      TRUTH… WATCH on YouTube as Eric Claton discuss vaccines and government over reach in a few lengthy and fascinating interviews.  Famous rock musician posts in the past few days expresses his extreme concerns, as he loses music industry friends. He also discusses his own serious lingering vaccine side effects.

    • 98126res September 17, 2021 (11:38 am)

      Missing from the govmt push and communications is THE most important message about love, that we should love and respect all of our neighbors including our differences. The messages, extended time and unknowns with our constant universal struggle w changing challenging restrictions amid showers of data supporting each side. Life is about love not divisiveness.

  • Canton September 16, 2021 (10:33 pm)

    Also, those politicians that are demanding you to show proof,  show us your proof. All politicians that are demanding this should have readily available proof that they are vaccinated and should be readily be available to see to all the public.

    • Canton September 16, 2021 (10:45 pm)

      If the politicians can demand our proof of vaccination,  can we not demand they show, publicly, their same status? Is the governor properly vaccinated, ALL shots. Is the county executive fully vaccinated? The mayor, you know, everyone asking the people to do this needs the same scrutiny. We have to show proof, so do they.

      • Foop September 17, 2021 (7:16 am)

        They are required to show this proof if they want to dine in next month. Also there’s literally a video on king5 of inslee getting his first shot…

        • Canton September 17, 2021 (11:57 pm)

          Please send a screen shot of king inslee’s vaccine card, would love to see it.

      • anonyme September 17, 2021 (8:07 am)

        That’s absolutely fair.  Unfortunately, I doubt it would prove what you want it to.

      • shotinthefoot September 17, 2021 (8:48 am)

        I would imagine our local politicians would have absolutely zero problem showing and sharing their vaccination status. It seems to me that the only politicians and public figures who aren’t sharing their status are the republicans and right wingers. They’ll fight for your “freedom” to not get the vaccine while they are 100% vaccinated. Absolute death cult. 

    • Brian September 17, 2021 (8:18 am)

      I 100% guarantee they’re all vaccinated for this virus and I’d bet cash that Inslee has already had a third shot. 

  • Business owner September 16, 2021 (10:42 pm)

    Again- everyone is discussing the notion about all being “carded” for vaccination status and how this is a WIN for the vaccinated to feel safe.  What about us business owners that doesn’t give zero care for vaccinated status?  What?  Gonna shut me down?   Take away the taxes your beloved government gets from our sales?  Don’t see this happening… in fact… I envision a future… where there are businesses that require Vax cards etc… and others that don’t care if you are vaxxed or not, no questions asked.  The ones who are scared (though vaxxed), don’t frequent the places that don’t check.  And we continue business in a free world… where people have the right to make their own decisions.  My goodness.  Stop with this greater good.  Vaxxed are safe.  Children are safe, at least won’t die.  The elderly?  They have boosters or know to stay away for safety…

    • Jort September 16, 2021 (11:33 pm)

      If I visit your business, and you’re required to ask for vaccination status but do not do so, I will be reporting your business to the state for enforcement action and I will encourage hundreds of others to do so, also. If you choose to violate state orders, you’ll face the consequences. You will pay. It’s no different than a business deciding “it’s Ok to serve children alcohol” because of “freedom” garbage. Follow the law or face the consequences for making our society less safe. 

      • Tar N Feather September 17, 2021 (2:01 am)

        Yes, the State will save you, please turn in your neighbors and family members. Our taxes are necessary to shut down the evil businesses willing to “serve” the local community. Be wary of those who tell you they can take calculated risks by themselves.

      • River September 17, 2021 (7:45 am)

        We found the hall monitor in the group.  Better shape up everyone or you’ll be REPORTED.  Lol!  Sad. 

      • Anne September 17, 2021 (8:42 am)

        OMG- can it be I actually agree with  you on something? I’m buying a lottery ticket today- 

    • CAM September 17, 2021 (2:59 am)

      Well this is a healthy level of respect for your customers that really encourages people to want to patronize and support your business. 

    • anonyme September 17, 2021 (8:11 am)

      These brave, brazen declarations (sarcasm) are meaningless unless you disclose the name of your business.  Put your money where your mouth is and let people decide whether or not they want to support you or your business.  Don’t be such a coward.  I’m also sick and bloody tired of hearing how the “elderly’ should be locked up like criminals instead of out spending those abundant boomer dollars I keep hearing rumors about…

    • 22blades September 17, 2021 (8:21 am)

       Stop with this greater good. ” I am speechless…

    • zark00 September 17, 2021 (10:30 am)

      What business do you own?  Why hide behind an anonymous post – just tell us if you’re so sure it’s a good plan. 

    • AJ September 17, 2021 (12:57 pm)

      What business do you own, Business Owner? 

    • Mellow Kitty September 20, 2021 (10:26 am)

      I’d like to know the name of your business so I have the freedom to spend my money elsewhere. Oh, and I’m sure you didn’t apply for COVID loans for small business either, right, since COVID is nothing to really worry about, especially if you’re a kid or elderly person . . . WTH is wrong with people? 

  • EMV September 16, 2021 (10:55 pm)

    I’d like to know a specific date as to when these requirements will expire. No way on earth will such requirements be permanent. Right!?

    • Bill September 17, 2021 (2:45 am)

      Don’t hold your breath!

    • AdmyralByrd September 17, 2021 (7:23 am)

      You mean like how kids have had to document vaccinations since Jonas Salk had his breakthrough?  

    • jissy September 17, 2021 (7:41 am)

      “This ORDER will remain in effect for 6-months and reevaluated at that time, or sooner based on the
      status and impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak in King County.”

    • Anne September 17, 2021 (8:41 am)

      Reading on the official website – said 6 months. 

  • CAM September 17, 2021 (3:13 am)

    So the argument that there’s going to be some groundswell of support from a silent majority here regarding people being appalled by being asked to prove vaccine status is not born out by the data. Seattle and King County are overwhelmingly liberal (more so than the rest of the country) and vaccinated (ditto) so keep that in mind when reviewing the results of this national gallop poll on this specific topic from less than a month ago. Also, these #s have only been trending up in terms of favoring vaccine requirements over time, not the opposite. Link for reference:

    • Pessoa September 17, 2021 (9:44 am)

      CAM: So, we should mold our opinions to conform with popular opinion? By that rationale, the Iraq War was on solid ground because almost every single senator – Republican and Democrat-  voted yes. Alexis DeTocqueville worried about this “go along to get along” mentality in American society even 200 years ago, in “Democracy in America.”  

      • CAM September 17, 2021 (11:38 am)

        No. Just stop pretending and telling other people that you are part of some movement because you aren’t. Feel free to keep being wrong by yourself. 

  • flimflam September 17, 2021 (8:14 am)

    It’s going to be rough on workers at restaurants, bars, etc having to deal with potential customers angry about needing to produce this proof.I’m all for these mandates and have supported the restrictions in the past but it puts frontline, low paid workers in a position as enforcement which is unfair and not what they are paid to do.i hope ownership or higher level managers take the reins on this, it least at first, and shield their employees from people like those raging here in the comments. To those people I would only say – you can disagree all you want but this is going to happen, don’t take out your anger on your neighbors simply trying to go about their work day.

    • reed September 17, 2021 (1:26 pm)

      Hopefully other people will step up to support the those just trying to do their jobs. Personally, I’m itching for the opportunity to step in and help someone.

      • flimflam September 17, 2021 (4:34 pm)

        ….and just today I see the video of the three horrible women from Texas (of course) assaulting the NYC restaurant hostess for merely asking for proof of vax. Great.

  • shotinthefoot September 17, 2021 (8:28 am)

    Wow, these comments. I had no idea how many selfish, thoroughly deluded people lived here. Surprising, given our high vaccination rates. I also thought, foolishly I guess, that West Seattle in particular was more enlightened than that. Well,  I look forward to going anywhere I want, showing my vax card and knowing that I won’t have to sit next to these selfish jerks who won’t do the right thing for their neighbors, for their local businesses, for their families and for society at large. Maybe y’all should pick up and move to Idaho if you’re in such histrionics about your “freedumbs” but you’d likely end up back here in one of our ICU beds since Idaho’s are full because…we just go round and round. If it were up to some people today, we’d still have polio and smallpox. Just go get the vaccine, and go support your struggling local businesses! 

    • Pessoa September 17, 2021 (9:27 am)

      No, we are not going anywhere, but thanks for the recommendations. We, including the vaccinated and unvaccinated,  will continue to resist mandates that target and turn our fellow Americans into 2nd class citizens based on a hunch, a suspicion that they are a dangerous threat to society.  We will resist attempts to exploit irrational fear of a virus despite a number of precautionary measures that can be taken to avoid infection, and the minuscule risk of death – including innoculation. But you know, only if that’s ok with you.

    • heartless September 17, 2021 (9:36 am)

      It gets brutal in the comment section, to be sure, but remember that many of the more virulent posters are cowards and keyboard warriors who talk big but will absolutely show proof of vaccination when required. 

      They like to spout and rage, and try what to them must feel like mounting an argument (the un-American one and “but what about HIPAA durr durr” are my favorites, I think) but when it’s between showing a picture or not getting to have a cheeseburger, yeah, they’ll show proof of vaccination.

    • Anne September 17, 2021 (9:52 am)


    • Jort September 17, 2021 (1:28 pm)

      The right-wing resistance to vaccination is entirely because of their dedication to their ideology. Entire generations of conservatives have grown up believing in the Ultimate Supremacy of the Individual, and to concede that societal good is more important than the individual fundamentally shatters their self-centered worldview. That’s why there’s so much resistance — because the very underpinnings of their entire personal and political ideology (which are, at this point, inseparable) fooled them into believing that individualism can solve every problem. It can’t. They will get the shots, or they will eat at home and cry on Facebook and call America “China.” Their worldview and ideology was always flawed, broken and wrong. Now they have to face the consequences of being wrong. Tough cookies. Get the shot and grow up.

    • LPM September 17, 2021 (3:37 pm)

      Please don’t go to Idaho.  I have a family member there who is a hospital nurse and it is overrun with covid patients.  So bad, that fellow nurses are working under duress and quitting.  Obviously their lack of vaccines and mask wearing is working great for them.

  • Anne September 17, 2021 (9:10 am)

    Reading the Times this morning- the rules are all over the place- no ID required along with proof of vaccination-not your passport-no problem. Employees of bars & restaurants aren’t required to be vaccinated-( but they’d have to show proof if they went someplace else). If your business seats less than 12- mandate doesn’t kick in until December. How is it that a whole large segment of population-who aren’t ( can’t be yet) vaccinated—the under 12’s -are exempt-even from showing negative COVID test?? Leave it to Seattle/King County to institute something so convoluted. 

  • Chris K September 17, 2021 (9:41 am)

    While I am a little upset by the percentage of the commenters that are against this, I reminded myself of the vocal minority on here that were voting against Lisa last election.  I’m still laughing at that one.  Most of us in King County are responsible adults; the babies are loud and obnoxious, but very small in number.

    • anonyme September 17, 2021 (11:01 am)

      There is absolutely no connection between anti-vaxxers and non-Herbold voters.  What an odd correlation to make.

      • people_are_strange September 17, 2021 (6:19 pm)

        Yep, I am provax and pro-mandate, but will likely not be voting for Herbold. People love to jump to conclusions on this forum. 

        • Bmc September 18, 2021 (9:58 am)


        • JES September 20, 2021 (5:41 am)

          They weren’t making that correlation, they were talking about the minority making more noise and seeming bigger than it is. That seemed obvious to me.

          • anonyme September 20, 2021 (10:36 am)

            I see the point, but still contend that it was not well made.

    • Mellow Kitty September 20, 2021 (10:36 am)

      Okay, once again. This is not a political issue. It is a public health issue. You are not being persecuted, singled out or being forced into communism. Grow up, grab your binkies and get the damned shot. You might even get a cookie if you’re good. 

  • JJ September 17, 2021 (10:37 am)

    I can’t wait for this! I miss going to restaurants. They haven’t been safe enough for my tastes for nearly 2 years. Being vaccinated, and having others vaccinated or tested (where people can’t wear masks) makes restaurants an option again! Thank you KC!

  • Pessoa September 17, 2021 (11:03 am)

    As someone who vacillated between the two major political parties before shedding both years ago and becoming a libertarian, I see the pro-vaccine mandate group following into two categories: One, you have those who are consumed with fear and desperately do not want to a acknowledge the broader societal danger with vaccine mandates, and two, those for whom the virus is simply another opportunity to flex their totalitarian tendencies under the guise of “progressivim”, a tendency that is amply demonstrated in their other posts on other topics. The former I can sympathize with and even commiserate with, but for the latter there can be no common ground.  Ever. 

  • KT September 17, 2021 (2:32 pm)

    So here in King County they have now mandated that you must wear a mask in restaurants, bars, etc. whether you are vaccinated or not.  I’m not against this at all.  However a few points irritate me … 1) It isn’t effective until October 25th.  If this is due to a public health emergency why are you waiting for over a month to implement the mandate?  They say it is to give people time to get vaccinated.  Do you believe that someone that hasn’t taken the shot by now they have will get it because of this?  Is your mandate due to a public health emergency or are you just trying to find a way to force people to get the shot?  2) I have to have been vaccinated to eat in a restaurant but the person who is taking my order, cooking my order, and serving my meal does not.  Huh?  3) Do you appreciate the position you are putting understaffed restaurants in?    

  • Lincoln Park Mom September 17, 2021 (3:30 pm)

    I love my community and want only the best health for everyone.  Therefore, I am vaccinated and masked and willing to prove it.  My children are too young to be vaccinated.  Please show your love for our young community members and either get vaccinated or get tested frequently, wear your mask and by all means, stop fighting with one another.  Step out of your “ME” box and start supporting one another.

  • Mj September 17, 2021 (5:00 pm)

    Wrong approach. 

    A better way to encourage people to get vaccinated is using economics, Delta Airlines is going to charge unvaccinated employees more for health care starting in November.  This could be done by other employers.  And making unvaccinated adults pay for the medical costs of their choice would be nice to see.

  • Auntie September 17, 2021 (6:48 pm)

    Are casinos on Native American Reservations going to be subject to vaccination requirements? 

  • CuriousQuestioner September 17, 2021 (6:49 pm)

    As a vaccinated individual, I think this should be expanded to include testing for STIs. Infidelity is commonplace, and the impact STIs have on families and individuals is not to be trivialized. And also possibly to test for other transmittable diseases, too. I’m concerned another pandemic is around the corner and we should be proactive in testing for those as well. The days of being carefree about public health is behind us. 

  • TJ September 17, 2021 (7:28 pm)

    Huh curiousquestioner? I assume that is sarcasm, but people are hypersensitive now and will be looking for new covid variants or other bugs to be afraid of, so who knows

    • heartless September 17, 2021 (7:54 pm)

      Yeah, Swift (or swift, even) he ain’t.

      • curiousquestioner September 18, 2021 (1:12 pm)

        Wow – I didn’t realize we were allowed to insult each other on the WSB! Good thing to know going forward. I was under the impression we were being civil with one another, but looks like I’m not swift enough to understand how things work…

        • heartless September 18, 2021 (3:34 pm)

          Now now, being that resentful and angry is extremely detrimental to your health.  If you need other people to act a certain way in order for you to feel OK, then you have given them power.

          • curiousquestioner September 18, 2021 (5:12 pm)

            This is what we call a resentment, dear. you’ve held on to that for free…thank you for the reminder of what it means to be attached to negativity. 

  • An RN for VACCINES September 17, 2021 (8:26 pm)

    Getting the vaccine to protect your family, friends, neighbors and community is one of the most American things you can do. It is the only way to protect us from further sickness and death, to help our economy recover, and get our lives back to normal. Because the other way is herd immunity and a lot more people have to die for that to happen. Please, if you follow the science and do the research you will see the only way out of this pandemic is to get vaccinated and follow the recommendations from our health care experts and scientists, not the witch doctors on Fox  news!JORT you rock, and obviously know your facts. 

  • AdmyralByrd September 17, 2021 (11:40 pm)

    Covid19 is an enemy.  Just like Hitler’s Germany, Hirohito’s Japan, North Korea, the VietCong, Osama Bin-Laden.  It’s just smaller and – compared with any one of these – much more deadlier.  The rancor and divisiveness it is causing amongst us is appalling, as these comments show.Go visit Normandy.  Take in the vast, open, windswept beaches that offered no protection against the massive concrete and steel fortifications with 6″ gun batteries.  Ask yourself – how many of these teenagers that died on this beach would’ve taken the vaccine or showed their vaccination status if it got them out of  that day?  I’m guessing all of them, and they weren’t even directly fighting for US sovereignty, merely doing the right thing for the benefit of the world and millions of people they didn’t know.We don’t seem to be very good at coming together and eliminating an enemy, and I really wonder why our individuality trumps our sense of common good and why a jab or a card is so horrifying when people so willingly storm a beach or fly in an unprotected B-17 bomber to protect the world from the virus of fascism less than a century ago.  Take a step back.  It’s not all about you.

    • uncle loco September 18, 2021 (7:31 am)

      Yeah, getting a vaccine makes you some kind of hero…

      • helpermonkey September 20, 2021 (11:39 am)

        @ uncle loco: yes, it actually does! 

  • Bmc September 18, 2021 (10:00 am)

    So – how is the Ymca going to handle this? Show vax card with every visit?

  • anonyme September 20, 2021 (10:44 am)

    On a different note, I wish that vax cards would either be issued in wallet-size, or protective sleeves made available that would fit the current ones.

  • Spencer September 20, 2021 (6:12 pm)

    I strongly dislike these citizens’ arrest laws.  They should just make it illegal to dine out without being vaccinated.   Why bring the restaurants into it?

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