VIDEO: Governor outlines ‘recovery plan’ but still no dates

4:59 PM: That’s the TVW livestream of Gov. Inslee announcing his plan for the state’s recovery. We’ll be adding coverage notes of both his speech and a media Q&A scheduled at 5:45 pm.

“The spread of COVID-19 is likely declining in Washington,” the governor says he’s been told. He acknowledges that people are eager to get back to work and reopen businesses. He says reopening will be “more like turning a dial than flipping a switch.” But “we will not be able to lift many of the restrictions by May 4th.”

He says it will be a “strategic” recovery plan that “begins with widely available testing for individuals who may have had COVID-19” and contact tracing that he says 1,500 people will be working on “by the second week of May.” But the state is lacking in testing supplies – it has “more lab capacity than test kits,” he says. About 4,000 tests are being processed per day and that should be more like 20,000, he says.

Workplaces “are going to look much different” until there’s a vaccine, he says. “We’re going to provide guidance to let industries know when and how they can reopen. … We’re going to have to steel ourselves against this virus … for many months.” He says many innovations will be needed for “life in the era of COVID-19.” He will be appointing “three groups consisting of key community leaders” soon, focused on reopening as well as social services.

He concludes his speech at 5:10 pm with no mention of dates. We’ll pick up the coverage again when his media Q&A, scheduled for 5:45 pm, begins.

5:45 PM: The video window above now shows the governor’s speech, archived. We are listening to the media briefing via phone. The governor’s chief of staff David Postman reiterates what the governor mentioned as three areas that will likely see relaxed restrictions in the “near term” – elective surgery, residential construction, and outdoor recreation.

Overall “it’s not going to be a simple process” of restarting multiple industries, he says, “lot of work to be done on that.”

First question is about time frames. “Some of the things the governor mentioned could happen before May 4th.” What kind of a heads-up would other industries get? The state would want to “work with them so they are ready when it’s time.” How soon can the testing needs mentioned by the governor get ramped up? That’s unknown because of “supply chain issues.”

Then: What “modeling” was the governor referring to, that he hopes to see later this week for potential decision-making? One # is the infection rate – they’re looking for each infected person to be infecting fewer than one other.

Then: What does “outdoor recreation” refer to? Too soon to say. After that, another question trying to clarify time frames. “We have work to do between now and May 4th on” the aforementioned three things, the chief of staff says, but no elaboration beyond that.

6:05 PM: As for working toward reopening more businesses, the Commerce Department director says they want to hear from businesses – especially” “small and main-street businesses” about what they need to operate safely.

Then: What industries after medical and construction? “We don’t have that answer,” says Postman. Can cities/counties go rogue and reopen before the state gives its OK? They can be stricter, but not looser, than the state requires, he says. (Franklin County is going rogue and Postman says they are “preparing a letter” because “it’s not legal.” He adds that it’s important to hear from local officials who support the restrictions to speak up, too.)

6:24 PM: Another question about the frustration felt by people who think it’s time to reopen; Postman says the governor understands that, but protests like the one last weekend in Olympia are not going to change their “data-driven” course. “Nobody should think they are out of the woods on this,” he warns, even the counties that have not been hit hard. He also says he hopes people will be encouraged by some restrictions possibly lifting in the “days or week ahead.”

The Q&A ends at 6:26 pm.

8:14 PM: Here’s the governor’s office’s writeup, which in turn links to this “policy brief” (PDF).

94 Replies to "VIDEO: Governor outlines 'recovery plan' but still no dates"

  • WS Taxpayer April 21, 2020 (5:34 pm)

    He literally said absolutely nothing of substance.  Hot Garbage.  Time to get back to work!  

    • WSCommuter2 April 21, 2020 (6:23 pm)

      Agree with you WS taxpayer.

    • DH April 22, 2020 (9:46 pm)

      Totally disagree with you WS Taxpayer. 

  • dsa April 21, 2020 (5:37 pm)

    Anybody know what channel TVW is on CenturyLink?  thanks

  • Joe April 21, 2020 (5:37 pm)

    When are people in this state going to wake up and stop taking the spin and fluff from our governor? He has provided no answers, no direction, no hint of even trying to open this state up. All he’s done is blow hot air out of his mouth that sound like words.Is anyone here satisfied with the fact that he’s going to do nothing but create committees that he should have created a month or longer ago?

    • Whattt April 21, 2020 (8:33 pm)

      Your ignorance is mind-blowing.  How quickly would you be screaming that enough wasn’t done if the epidemic was out of control.  

    • Carrie April 22, 2020 (5:54 am)

      I appreciate a leader who doesn’t offer information he doesn’t have just to make people feel better. 

  • C April 21, 2020 (5:47 pm)

    Did I miss anything? 

    • Stuck on Avalon April 21, 2020 (6:13 pm)

      You missed nothing of substance. Just 10 minutes of politicking.

    • Jim April 21, 2020 (6:20 pm)

      Very disappointing speech.  Not enough innovation to get us back on our feet.  People are being hurt by this shutdown.

      • guymonta April 21, 2020 (7:20 pm)

        By this Virus.

      • Bradley April 21, 2020 (9:57 pm)

        People are dying from the virus. There. I fixed it for you.

      • Carrie April 22, 2020 (5:55 am)

        Massive pandemics do tend to hurt people. There is no magical solution to avoid all hurt. Sorry. 

  • C April 21, 2020 (6:24 pm)

     For all of you who say the state is not doing anything, please remember that this is a novel virus. It’s not a common cold we are dealing with, it’s brand new and we don’t have as many answers as we would like. Everyone is doing the best they can, and while it does suck that people can’t be at work, unfortunately that’s the state we are in. Blaming the government is not where your head should be. If you have all the answers from a qualified medical standpoint maybe you should run for president or be a doctor. Show some respect for the people who are putting their lives on the line for you.

    • HS April 21, 2020 (6:51 pm)

      Agreed and well said.

    • Peter April 21, 2020 (7:45 pm)

      Thank you. 

    • JRR April 21, 2020 (8:14 pm)

      Yes! We’re on the verge of people’s complacency leading to another bump in cases and death.

    • Brian H April 21, 2020 (8:17 pm)

      Agreed. If others have a solution, and not a soundbite, let’s hear it. I’d like to avoid the refrigerator trucks full of dead bodies scenarios. I also hear that Atlanta is lovely this time of the year. 

    • West Seattle since 1979 April 21, 2020 (8:28 pm)

      Thanks for being a voice of reason, C.

    • John April 22, 2020 (10:35 am)

      Extremely well said. Thank you, C. 

  • TJ April 21, 2020 (6:31 pm)

    I’m not sure what we got out of that. When he announces a press conference and we get nothing out of it at all then he just gives the impression he is lost. It’s time to get back to work. Whether this stay at home ended 2 weeks ago, or May 4th, or if he makes the ridiculous decision to extend this, we alk know he is going to say to continue social distancing, so let’s get on with it. 

    • WSB April 21, 2020 (6:34 pm)

      There wasn’t much aside from the mention of what will apparently be the first three areas to have restrictions relaxed.

    • Rumbles April 21, 2020 (8:38 pm)

      He had to say something.  Remember the thousand or so people protesting that their civil liberties are being taken away in Olympia the other day?  This press conference was to stay the course.  Read between the lines   This is hard, I’m not ignorant to that, but this is for the greater good. How would everyone feel if he hadn’t done enough?

      • David April 21, 2020 (9:10 pm)

        I appreciate Inslee and think he’s been a real leader through this. But this “press conference” wasn’t well thought out. It was about 15 minutes of political speak with little to no detail or specificity. Even if there is none at this time, and he felt he needed to say something because of the protests in our capital, why? What does that accomplish? You think those folks who are protesting are going to have a “come to” moment from Inslee’s speech today? There is no chance that happens, so the net effect of today’s message is actually one that divides us more, not brings us together. I’m an Inslee supporter and this was a wart on an otherwise very good COVID response.

        • Guided by science April 21, 2020 (11:04 pm)

          The address today was necessary, as we approach the end of this stay at home order period, and because some have been expressing unrest. He communicated the key message of staying the course, and shared an overview of the necessary and strategic next steps. He also importantly, prepared people for the reality that many of the restrictions aren’t going to be lifted come May 4th.

          He said plenty for the moment, it was an update and preview of what’s next, more soon to come.

          • David April 22, 2020 (5:03 pm)

            Sorry, he said nothing!

  • Sciencerules April 21, 2020 (7:02 pm)

    Washington is one of 8 states where cases of the virus have fallen by over 50%. The others are mostly sparsely inhabited – ID, AK, MT, HI, VT, WY.  So I’d say the governor has done a pretty damn good job so far.That data might suggest we can start relaxing, but every model suggests the virus would come roaring back. So yes, don’t call a press conference if you have nothing new to say, but how about giving some credit where credit is due?

    • David April 22, 2020 (5:10 pm)

      I’m sorry, telling everyone to stay home was very easy for him to do.  He simply did what other countries ( China, Italy, Spain,etc). before him have already done.   How difficult could that be?  The real leadership will come when he has to start walking and chewing gum at the same time. Which means balancing public health while not destroying millions more lives by preventing them from working.  

  • Bella April 21, 2020 (7:11 pm)

    Seriously? What a joke. Get business going. We are competent adults and can handle social distancing.  He said nothing as usual. I doubt our Governor  wants to open, he wants us to beg for handouts forever.  

    • Matt April 21, 2020 (8:59 pm)

      Not competent enough to listen to the experts, apparently (no I don’t mean Trump rallyers in Olympia).

    • Lynn April 21, 2020 (11:35 pm)

      Lol! Now that’s a joke…that people can handle social distancing? The shoppers at Safeway can’t even follow the one way signs and stand 6 feet away from each other and here you want to trust everyone to do that. Oh like that time everyone flocked to Alki beach in mid March during a pandemic? Some people are smart and know what to do. Trusting the lot to do the same? A bit generous.

    • Calires April 22, 2020 (2:50 am)

      The fact that you think that the government wants you to beg for handouts forever proves that you aren’t a competent adult.  The government thrives off of the greatest number of people and businesses working and paying taxes.  The shutdown screws the government, too.  It’s people like you who cause the government to have to step up and put the cork on the end of the fork that you’re trying to stab yourself in the eye with.

  • Guided by science April 21, 2020 (7:13 pm)

    The Governor, said plenty, and I believe is right in taking a strategic approach, which will be better for peoples lives and the economy in the long run. Very thankful we have a governor who prioritizes peoples safety over money and politics.

    If we return to ‘business as usual’ too soon, the virus will spike again, spread quickly, and will devastate our community, hospitals, and will hurt our economy more than if we make a gradual, strategic, safe return to normalcy.

    If you heard nothing, or do not understand, you’re choosing not to listen or tuning out reality because it’s not what you want to hear. Vary your news sources, and trust the scientists, experts, and medical professionals.

    • Concerned citizen April 21, 2020 (8:35 pm)

      The name that you’re posting under is ironic, considering that following science would have us relaxing social distancing now. The entire goal of “flattening the curve” was to prevent hospitals from exceeding capacity, which we never even came close to. The goal of flattening the curve is not to prevent all infections, that’s impossible. The area under the curve is the same, just with a different distribution. If this virus is really as infectious as we’ve been led to believe, then the most efficient strategy is to have a mix of distancing guidelines that are allowing enough infections to build towards herd immunity while not overwhelming hospitals. What we are doing now is prolonging the curve while destroying our economy.In short, time to open it up and get back to work.

      • Science over Fear April 21, 2020 (9:03 pm)

        We’ll be in a much better position to protect and prevent when we have adequate testing and are closer to vaccine treatments.. logic says: social distancing is working, keep using this tool until you have another tool in your arsenal (testing) to be more precise with getting back to work strategy.  Your suggestion is the equivalent of a blunt instrument.

        • AN April 22, 2020 (7:14 am)

          Vaccine could be more than a year out! do you think people are going to sit around and wait for that? 

      • Matt April 21, 2020 (9:05 pm)

        Social distancing is working – use the tool until you have fully equipped another tool (comprehensive testing) to be more precise in the “get back to work” strategy.  Your suggestion is the equivalent of a blunt instrument.. I’m not sure you understand science as well as you think you do.

      • Guided by science April 21, 2020 (9:45 pm)

        If we immediately ‘open it up and get back to work’ right now, the efforts of the past couple months, will have been for nothing.  We would have a major spike in transmission and it would cost many lives and set us back even further economically.  A strategic approach, guided by science is what is needed. As difficult as this situation is, on all of us, this is the reality and we need to accept it, figure out how to cope best we can, and help one another through this.

      • Carrie April 22, 2020 (5:57 am)

        So flattening the curve was to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed and you’re angry because it worked and you think we should stop. How sensible!

        • Thomas Wood April 22, 2020 (5:17 pm)

          The Governor states that he will base his decision on science.No he based his decision on money and political power.Case in point Boeing announced last week they were going back to work.The Governor stated he’s sure Boeing will operate safely. Like nobody else can operate safely.How many businesses will die because they don’t have the power of Boeing or Amazon

      • Bronson April 22, 2020 (6:55 am)

        @ Concerned citizen is somewhat correct, however, I also agree that in order to relax the restrictions more, we need significantly more testing kits and contact tracing capabilities. I don’t think we need to wait on a vaccine. 

  • Aerial Observer April 21, 2020 (7:22 pm)

    Thanks again to WSB for your excellent coverage of this greatest of all current events.

    Here’s what I got from this story:

    Social Distancing is working. The number of new cases is declining. This is a necessary , but not sufficient, condition for ending our quarantine. If we lift our quarantine now, we’ll see a huge spike in new infections, and the very result we’re trying to prevent — overwhelming of our hospital system — will happen. All of our effort this far will have been for nothing. Many more persons will die needlessly.

    We entered this quarantine in phases, and we’ll exit it the same way. The first types of “non-essential” businesses to re-start were listed by David Postman. We’ll need to innovate to open other businesses as evidence directs. Don’t count on enjoying our usual bars, restaurants, live shows, music festivals, sporting events, or parades anytime soon. That’s not good news, nobody wants to hear it, but it beats the all-out rise in cases and deaths we’d see if we re-opened everything too early.

    I’m very glad Gov. Inslee seems to be following the best science and evidence on this most important of all matters.

    • WSB April 21, 2020 (8:06 pm)

      Since we’ve been out of the house the past hour including checking out a fire, the gov’s office has published their toplines including a “policy paper.” Linking above.

  • WW Resident April 21, 2020 (7:26 pm)

    Why is everyone complaining.  Inslee has agreed to a Washington – Oregon -California Covid partnership, so…….. 

  • Frustratedwithcomments April 21, 2020 (7:29 pm)

    As an essential worker still going to work every day, I cannot stress enough the importance of mass testing before other people start to go back to work. I cannot even begin to imagine how many times some essential workers, like grocery stores, have been exposed constantly with no self quarantine time. No one is safe until we are all tested. We need to know real numbers before we start assuming we are past this. Those of you complaining have no idea the physical and mental toll, on top of literal risk of death, essential workers have been put through. I would gladly stay home for a month or two if it meant keeping all my neighbors and community safe. As an essential worker I can’t which is why I am counting on the rest of you. Please just stay home. I promise no amount of money is worth potentially infecting people you love. 

    • West Seattle since 1979 April 21, 2020 (8:30 pm)

      Frustrated and 120rider, thank you for what you do.

    • Concerned citizen April 21, 2020 (8:37 pm)

      The mass testing argument is illogical because it’s simply not possible to test at the level some people are parroting.There literally aren’t enough reagents in the world to mass test the US population…

      • Jort April 22, 2020 (9:36 am)

        Oh my gosh, it’s almost like we should start making reagents (and should have been for months) so that we could be prepared for this exact issue! But wait, I’m sure “we’ve got this contained” and “we’ll see the numbers go down to zero” soon. Your statement is false. It IS possible to test people at high levels, we’ve just chosen not to prepare ourselves to do so, despite strong recommendations for increased testing since the outbreak began literally in January. Do we want to keep arguing about the inevitable for another month or two, or do we just want to start increasing testing? 

    • Rumbles April 21, 2020 (8:39 pm)

      Well said!

    • Stickerbush April 21, 2020 (8:53 pm)

      Can someone please explain the details around “mass testing” and statements like “no one is safe until we’re all tested”? It seems all I hear is more testing, more testing but very little about what exactly that means and how it will be used to get us out from under stay at home order.Also the governer says we must have contact tracing and that will require thousands of workers.  What are these thousands of workers actually going to be doing? Data entry? Calling people that may have been exposed?Lack of details leads me to feel like there isn’t really a fully baked plan, just keep delaying and moving the goalposts.

      • Elton April 21, 2020 (10:19 pm)

        I’m not a scientist at all, this is based on what I’ve heard/read: I think the high level message with testing, to answer your question, is that if we can test people more easily than we can begin to control this thing in a more meaningful way than “everyone stay home” because right now we’re really flying blind. If we can test en masse then we can determine how widespread this is – since people can by asympotatic it’s extremely hard to tell how many people have gotten it. That’s necessary to understand herd immunity and what percentage of people who get it have serious symptoms versus not (we’ve been assuming because of mass media that for most people the symptoms are mild, but there’s not much hard data to prove that and without mass testing we can’t come close to figuring that out). I don’t know what the threshold would be, but at an extreme: if 80% of Seattle has had COVID and is, hence, (we assume) immune then stay at home orders may not make sense anymore and the people who are immune don’t have to be as cautious as folks that haven’t had it. With practically every viral infection in history, apparently getting it and surviving means you get immunity naturally, so I don’t think that’s a crazy assumption to make.  I wonder also if testing means we can do better contact tracing to control a second wave without a state-wide stay at home order. Additionally, if we ever can get to a point where testing is instant and a commodity (not sure if this is possible), you could imagine checks at airports and event spaces – that gets us much closer to “normal” life.

    • Guided by science April 21, 2020 (9:15 pm)

      ^^^

      Thank you for sharing, and for your essential work in our community.

      We are nowhere near past this. It’s going to take a smart, strategic, slow and steady course of action forward. Luckily, we have a governor who seems to have the right priorities, and the resolve, patience, and fortitude we need in a leader.  Especially with some expressing impatience and bucking at the necessary measures being taken.

      As we move forward, we should be prepared for some restrictions to be lifted and possibly implemented again, and again, depending on how things go.  We will need to remain flexible and cooperative to get through this as well as possible. 

      I heard a statistic (NY Times) that perhaps 90% of the population (approx. 300million Americans) haven’t been infected yet.  If we immediately returned to business as usual, and this rapidly spread, just imagine how many more deaths that could result in. We haven’t seen anything yet. The measures taken so far has spared lives, and we should stay on a course that continues this, while strategically working on lifting restrictions and reviving the economy. Safety and lives come first.

      What needs to happen next… testing, contact tracing, smart quarantining, ongoing personal hygiene measures and social distancing, gradually returning people to work and other activities.

      None of us are enjoying this, but we have to work together to get through this. Stay strong, and stay well.

    • WW Resident April 23, 2020 (5:30 am)

      I’m an “essential worker” also. You don’t speak for me

  • 120rider April 21, 2020 (8:23 pm)

    As a medical professional who rides metro to work everyday,  please keep doing what you are doing.  Stay home.  Should you choose not to listen to science and medical advice, do us all a favor while waiving your signs to go back to work.  Breathe deep, real deep.  Why should we let you into the hospital to infect us?  Go ahead and mingle, waive your signs and carry your guns.  Just don’t expect us to take care of you.

    • R.wald April 21, 2020 (9:02 pm)

      Isn’t it not advisable to be on public transportation? What if your job didn’t let you I  because you rode the bus?  Im also essential personnel and I’m all for the mitigation effort, but am so,so tired of seeing people being so hateful to each other in the comments on this blog.  Whether its COVID or the bridge…people should try and have grace with each other and not act like this.

      • Bus April 21, 2020 (9:42 pm)

        Public transportation is fine.  The fact that poor people use it doesn’t make it dirty.  It’s probably cleaner than your destination.  It is super possible to get onto the bus, get to your destination, and get off the bus without touching it (with your hands).  The same cannot be said for other modes of transportation (save walking).  You don’t have to lick the bus to ride it.  In fact, Metro would probably prefer you stop licking the bus.  Please try and have grace with others and not look down on the bus and the people who ride it.

        • James Walker April 21, 2020 (11:57 pm)

          Based on the intellectual intelligence of so many commentators on the WSB I’m beginning to think the rest of Seattle is going to be well served by the bridge closure.   Are we really so egotistical to think we know better than the scientists that are telling us to stay home?  Good grief!

    • MSW April 21, 2020 (9:26 pm)

      120RIDER – You are fortunate and have a job. There are many who are out of work and are suffering.   Also just because there are experts it doesn’t mean they are always right.  If medical professionals are alway right there wouldn’t be a need for malpractice insurance.  Your flippant attitude shows your lack of compassion and professionalism. 

      • JRR April 21, 2020 (10:06 pm)

        So your non-death “suffering” is worse than death?

      • Anne April 21, 2020 (10:23 pm)

        MSW-I felt just the opposite-120rider-telling it like he/she sees it from the perspective of a health professional . Flippant attitude- lack of compassion?? I think that applies more to the protestors -where is their compassion for health care workers -those caring for/ trying to heal the sick . Where is their compassion for the sick & dying & families of those who have died? Thank you 120rider  & Frustrated for you & all who are working long hard hours-to bring comfort & save lives. We are grateful. 

      • Lynn April 21, 2020 (11:44 pm)

        Yes, telling a medical professional who is putting his/ her own life at risk, dealing with the anxiety of being infected, lack of protective gear, so he/ she can treat patients and help heal them just reeks of lack of compassion. You are wrong to speak to a medical professional that way. You don’t walk in their shoes. Imagine you putting in all those hours and exhausted and here reading how ignorant people who don’t look at  the scientific data, blatantly being ignorant.  They aren’t alone in how they feel. A friend of mine who is a doctor in Denver feels the same way. You want to go out and mingle freely? Go ahead.  Sign the waiver that you won’t show up at the hospital and clog the ER when you get sick.

  • Zmmr April 21, 2020 (8:50 pm)

    I love staying home and watching my corn grow. Love the quietness,the fresh clean air.Accept it.go with the flow…relax and meditate

  • Amy April 21, 2020 (9:09 pm)

    I just really want the gyms to open again. That was my one “me time” daily self-love ritual. I have an emotional attachment to my gym ritual. Sigh.

    • Guided by science April 21, 2020 (10:00 pm)

      I hear you!  I miss my regular exercise and self-care routines too. It’s been hard,  but feels like it’s time to establish new healthy and self-care routines.  

      I know it’s not the same as the gym, but maybe going on a walk, run, yoga, or doing an online exercise video, etc. at the same time every day, might feel good in the meantime?  I’ve been having a hard time establishing a new exercise routine, but I’m going to set a goal tonight and determined to start tomorrow.

    • HS April 21, 2020 (10:35 pm)

      I miss the gym too. 

  • Mj April 21, 2020 (10:40 pm)

    This nanny state is becoming too much when the City of Seattle posts people at restroom entrances at the Seattle Center!

  • Greystreet April 21, 2020 (11:21 pm)

    R.Wald you must not frequent the blog often, though there are a TON of awesome peeps on here there are also cutthroat comments and persistent discord; nature of the beast to be armchair politicians, doctors, scientists and engineers when one can hide behind a username.Im a nurse practitioner who was furloughed, this is week 4, I’m beyond frustrated but ya know what? It’s slowly working, all of this hard work we’ve done is not for naught, but it can all be unraveled in a matter of days if we flip the switch. I appreciated that Inslee likened it to “turning a dial, and not flipping a switch”. If we are being realistic here, I wouldn’t count on much for 2020 aside from getting even more cozy with your own space and your local park. Please continue to do your part, protesting won’t change anything, viruses are immune to human protest but they aren’t immune to human intervention of things like social distancing, contact tracing, isolation, and appropriate testing. My diatribe is done now, oh yea and the bridge thing didn’t help anyone’s stress levels. 

  • Ron Swanson April 22, 2020 (1:19 am)

    Best meme I’ve seen this week: the “Don’t tread on me” snake captioned “I don’t understand epidemiology”

    Fair amount of that energy in these comments…

  • Chris K April 22, 2020 (4:55 am)

    This is what a leader looks like.

  • Andy April 22, 2020 (7:13 am)

    I highly doubt dr. Fauci has had a malpractice lawsuit filed against him.  Some of these comments are crazy! Open up because people can be trusted to social distance. Blah blah  NO they can’t ! our parks are closed because people couldn’t follow basic instructions. We own two small businesses and want to reopen, but not until it’s safe for our staffReality doesn’t care about your feelings,” and being unafraid doesn’t change the facts about this virus  If you didn’t think Inslee has given you enough direction follow your fellow states to see what’s happening. We are in this together.  I personally watch Andrew Cuomo  

    • WSB April 22, 2020 (9:06 am)

      Parks are not closed.

      • DH April 22, 2020 (10:14 pm)

        The person didn’t say which parks are closed. National Parks and King County parks are closed. I just looked it up. Please correct me if the information on the websites are wrong.

  • Al April 22, 2020 (7:18 am)

    Times like these I wish WSB mandated real identities to post comments. This anonymous spiteful nonsense is really disheartening and frankly more than a little suspect… 

    • WSB April 22, 2020 (9:05 am)

      Spend any time on social media? “Real name” commenters there are much worse.

  • anonyme April 22, 2020 (7:47 am)

    Not every news conference can or will contain some earth-shattering breakthrough announcement.  On the other hand, if Inslee stayed silent until such content was available, he’d be damned by the same people for staying silent during a crisis.  I suspect it’s just politics, in addition to the fact that a lot of people seem to have the patience of toddlers.

    • CMT April 22, 2020 (10:56 am)

      Not every news conference can or will contain some earth-shattering breakthrough announcement. ”  As underscored by Trump’s conferences which never say anything of substance and a riddled with inaccuracies.  I cannot believe we have a president that is actively encouraging people to go against what his own scientist/health advisors are recommending and has no problem inciting unrest and putting everyone in harm’s way to try to shore up his base for political gain. What an absolute predator. I’m just glad we have an intelligent governor that actually listens to his advisors and pays attention to science.

  • Lisa April 22, 2020 (8:05 am)

    Can anyone explain why we do not have enough test kits yet? Maryland just purchased 500,000 from South Korea. Meanwhile the CDC and UW have shipped out faulty test kits. I understand everyone is under a lot of pressure but the ineptitude surrounding how this has been handled is literally killing people. Inslee should think out of the box and follow Maryland’s lead.

    • Ice April 22, 2020 (12:06 pm)

      Having test kits and using test kits are two separate things. Labs which run the test kits have to be set up to process the the samples. the labs can only process a certain amount of tests per day  (I believe around 5000 for most labs) and it has to be done by people who are trained, which cannot happen instantaneously. The amount of tests they run in a day also does not equal the amount of patients actually being tested since they have to run each sample multiple times to avoid false positives. There may be other factors I am not aware of either. Hope this helps.

    • sgs April 22, 2020 (12:24 pm)

      Lisa – I’m wondering about the lack of info on testing here too, especially given the news today that Detroit is offering testing to all essential workers.  Maybe missed it, but I’ve heard of 3 or 4 local testing sites for specific groups of people.  Haven’t heard of plans to ramp up broadly here  in our state or what we are doing to try to procure tests.    Anyone hear anything more?

  • BettytheYeti April 22, 2020 (9:09 am)

    Dear Scientist and Other Essential Workers:  The one luxury that stands between you and those you disagree with:  is not worrying about where is your next paycheck.  The first 4 model results were down graded.  Statewide testing is far off by the governors own statement.  Even if test and vaccine  were available some will still choose not to take them.  Just like regular flu shots.Yes, there is a novel virus SAR-COV2, and it affects those will underlying co-morbidity greater.  And yes it is being politicized.  

    • newnative April 22, 2020 (10:33 am)

      The one luxury that stands between you and those you disagree with:  is not worrying about where is your next paycheck. ”  I don’t think that’s entirely fair or accurate. Many essential workers lack the “luxury” of taking vacation days, or unpaid time off because either they won’t have any benefits without it or they lack benefits and are simply living paycheck to paycheck. They may still be worried about their jobs and they may be supporting other household members who are now out of work, at great risk to their own health. Have you read the news about the healthcare workers who have died at home? what good is their paycheck to them?  

    • Guided by science April 22, 2020 (2:26 pm)

      Dear essential workers:

      It is not a ‘luxury’ to be receiving a paycheck for the hard work you are doing, while under the conditions of being potentially exposed to a deadly virus, at the start of a pandemic with so much still unknown.  I imagine this is an incredibly stressful time to be working for many of you. Thank you, and stay well!

  • Seaweed April 22, 2020 (9:51 am)

    I distrust our HealthCare system as it is now structured with the emphasis on profiteering.   One of our more recently glaring examples being the “Opioid Crisis”; brought to you with the full realization and cooperation of the Pharmaceutical model, our Governing model, and the Medical Profession Prescription model. Amplify this terribly flawed system with a Global Pandemic and the search for tests and vaccines… well, what could go wrong? I am not trying to be overly cynical, this is a complicated situation, but we do trend to run amok in our own self interests, of which this latest crisis will provide plenty of opportunities for such.  Of course now, in the present climate pertaining to our upcoming Presidential election, the waters of this crisis are being so muddied with the politics of it all that a clearer way forward is not as likely.

  • ScubaFrog April 22, 2020 (10:15 am)

    Scientists and doctors at the UW say it’s way too early to open up the state.  I’m with them.   I’m quite concerned about the Trumpian anti-education/anti-science “muh freedums durrr” part of society that may be spreading Covid19 re places they’re protesting (no masks, no social distancing).  Perhaps we should rely on Science and medical Data (and also see if Florida, Texas and Ohio have an influx of cases) before opening the state.  I don’t think we should ever rely on the emotional appeal of non-scientists and non-doctors regardless of politics.

    • Um, No! April 22, 2020 (2:42 pm)

      You might want to go back and read some of their earlier predictions.  Not saying they or any other group are not right this time around but I would not put all my eggs in their models and predictions.   Most predictive models to date have been pretty far off, luckily. 

      • ScubaFrog April 22, 2020 (5:13 pm)

        True, at one point I think 100k-300k deaths were predicted.  However, that model may have predicted this year and next’s sans treatment/vaccine with an open economy.  I do agree that  most models have been too liberal in predicted statistics re infection/death rate/final toll.  I’m encouraged by seeing people on Alki wearing masks for the most part, social distancing for the most part.  If we had to open the economy, I know Seattle would be better off than many parts of the US, but worse off than most (according to today’s hot spots map).  King County’s still having kind of a tough time re infections, exposing people en masse could be really dangerous.  However I’m also empathetic to those who need a paycheck this instant.   A lot of families can’t go a month without a check re mortgage/rent/car bills, so this is a tough time without another stimulus for The People, let alone small businesses and corporations.

        • Guided by science April 22, 2020 (8:14 pm)

          People experiencing unemployment due to the covid-19 health crisis can apply for unemployment benefits. On top of regular unemployment benefits, the government has added $600 per week as additional help during this crisis.  It seems to be pretty accessible, as long as folks meet some basic requirements (having worked at least 680 hours in the previous year, and being unemployed now due to covid-19, and so long as not disqualified for some odd reason).
          This is meant to help people and provide some immediate, short-term relief, and so that we don’t have to rush people back to work, before it makes sense.

          There are many other resources out there as well right now, including various places offering things like free meals. Our leaders are taking measures to help us get through this, and as a community we can do more to help one another too.

          • Seaweed April 23, 2020 (7:27 am)

            Guided By Science and Blind To Reality

  • 120rider April 22, 2020 (11:27 am)

    There were stupid people during the aids plague too that i knew who refused to wear condoms.   I visit them at their gravesite regularly.  

    • ScubaFrog April 22, 2020 (5:14 pm)

      How true is that  :(   A disease that truly touched us all.

  • David April 22, 2020 (5:24 pm)

    Serious question for everyone and please don’t get political.How long are you willing to keep the economy shut down for Coronavirus? fwiw,  although I’m not a fan of shutting down our constitutional rights, I supported the initial shutdown and wasn’t happy with the May 4th but I think the extension was reasonable.  

    • Guided by science April 22, 2020 (8:28 pm)

      I agree with beginning the phased approach to returning people to work, slowly and strategically opening the economy back up, when it makes sense to do so, per the advice and consensus of scientists, experts, and leaders. It sounds like Inslee believes we are on the right track, to hopefully begin this at some point next month.  Although, there are some challenges like having enough testing and ppe, to support moving forward strategically.

      The more careful and strategically this is managed, the more successful and I believe the faster we will get through this.  Yes, the virus may be out there longer, but if we manage it well, slow and steady, it won’t be as impactful.

      It’s important to understand, that if we rush this process, and don’t take the advice and measured steps in opening things back up, we will have a bigger crisis on our hands and it will have a greater impact on the economy in the long run.

      • David April 23, 2020 (12:46 pm)

        I agree with you and I think most people do.  I think the disagreement happens because some people think that individuals should be able to get on with their lives while continuing to social distance.  And others believe the individuals will not social distance themselves and a stay at home order is needed.I think that’s the big disconnect. but my question was how long are you willing to follow a stay at home order?  

  • Guided by science April 23, 2020 (4:34 pm)

    I think the disconnect may be in understanding that social distancing is just a recommendation for when you do have to be around others. That alone isn’t going to prevent the spread of this. The stay at home order significantly limits opportunities for people to be exposed. Lifting the order and having everyone back at work, even while keeping 6’ of distance, still puts people in a lot more contact in the world. Through touching things, and breathing the same air, etc. It’s not enough of a solution, it’s just part of the strategy.

    So when we begin to slowly lift restrictions, it’s doing so knowing it’s increasing risk and that the rate of infection might go up a little, but we want to try to contain it to a degree, so it doesn’t become too rampant and impact many and overwhelm the hospitals etc.

    To answer your question.  I’m willing to follow a stay at home order, as long as it’s needed and seems reasonable, per the advice and consensus of scientists, experts, and leaders, and so long as there is guidance and assistance with meeting our basic needs to get through this.

    To say that I would be willing to stay home for only a couple of weeks, a month, several months, etc. would be arbitrary, and based on my own ‘wants’ not on the reality of what is needed and what would be right to do, depending on how the situation continues to unfold.

    How long are you willing to follow a stay at home?

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