UPDATE: Governor says stay-home order will be extended beyond May 4th, but doesn’t say how long

Just under way in Olympia – delayed from the originally announced start time – Gov. Inslee‘s media briefing. The preview says he will be joined by Vice Admiral Dr. Raquel Bono, director of Washington state COVID-19 health-care response; Kathy Lofy, state health officer; and Katherine Guest, deputy intelligence section chief for the Washington State Emergency Operations Center. Notes as it goes.

He opens by saying he’ll re-start non-urgent surgeries.

Then he says the stay-home order will be extended beyond May 4th and that he will have more details on Friday, about the “phases” of reopening. He says it’s important to not have to open, then close again – “let’s do this once.” He says they’re making decisions based on “5 buckets of metrics,” each of which in turn has “multiple buckets …beneath it. …There is no one number that is a magic number.”

First: Disease activity, including case count. It’s “showing some progress, but we’re not out of the woods yet.”

Next, death count, based on when the victim got sick.

Third, COVID-19 hospitalizations based on when the patient was admitted.

Fourth, COVID-19 hospitalizations based on when the patient got sick.

Fifth, the “R-0” number – how many more people get sick, from each person infected. They only have this number for King County, not statewide, but it’s dropped from 4 to 1. He says epidemiologists warn that if social distancing is removed, that will go back up.

He then shows projections (modeling), saying that removing distancing would result in many more deaths.

3:09 PM: Then he reiterates that more testing is needed, but “our testing capacity has been sorely taxed.” The labs around the state could run a total of 22,000+ tests a day – but only currently has supplies for 4,000+ per day.

Once there is a “vigorous” testing program, contact tracing is vital, and that “involves an army of people,” the governor said. 565 people are working on that now and they’re hoping to almost triple that to 1,500 within abaut two weeks; the National Guard is contributing about 700 people to the effort.

Yet more data they’re monitoring – long-term-care facilities, and demographic inequity.

Finally, the health-care system’s readiness is the “last bucket” he says there’s still a “healthy” capacity and that needs to be maintained “because this virus could explode.”

3:24 PM: First question – what’s a reasonable testing goal in the near term? The governor says he thinks the 20,000 “is necessary to give us high confidence” for moving to the “next phase” of reopening. He says the feds have assured him that enough swabs to do it are on the way, “though we’ve run into some glitches in the past.”

He’s also asked for specific numbers he’d like to see in some of those “buckets” of data. He mentions a combination of very low levels of multiple numbers – cases, hospitalizations – and health officer Lofy says combining some low numbers with a high number of tests would be a different story than those numbers without more testing.

So is it possible we’d never get to the preferred numbers? he’s asked. Inslee says he’s confident people are supportive of continuing to work toward it and acknowleddges “it’s a big challenge.”

3:38 PM: He’s asked about the value of the Western States Pact if other states in it are making different decisions. He says the pact is more for “communication.”

He’s also asked why he is allowing people to resume outdoor recreation showing “common sense” when he won’t allow businesses to reopen in that same spirit. He doesn’t really answer, saying it’s important to “reduce interactions.”

Last question – what kind of R-0 number is he looking for? Significantly below 1, he said.

He wraps at 3:54, reiterating that on Friday he will talk about how the decisionmaking will play iinto “the next phase of business reopening.” The video should be available for playback above shortly, and we’ll add links to the governor’s news release(s) on all of the above when available.

94 Replies to "UPDATE: Governor says stay-home order will be extended beyond May 4th, but doesn't say how long"

  • Matt P April 29, 2020 (3:16 pm)

    It’s clear to me now that the portion of the population who doesn’t care will keep getting this extended for the rest of us.  For instance. I needed to go out, so I put on my mask, got in my car and went and grabbed what I needed as a pickup with as little contact as possible.  When I drove by the construction site for some new townhouses near my place, no one was following the rules needed for opening – there was no safety officer, no one had any PPE on and they were all sitting in a group together eating lunch without the minimum six feet between them.  If one of them gets it, they’ll all get it and then they’ll spread it to their families and anyone their families has contact with will spread it to others, and on and on it goes.    

    • Colleen April 29, 2020 (3:32 pm)

      I saw that too.On California south of Findlay

    • dsa April 29, 2020 (3:46 pm)

      I feel like a kindergartner who keeps losing more recess time because one or two kids can’t follow directions.   (source unknown)

    • Also John April 29, 2020 (7:07 pm)

      Same here…..  A home is being built across the alley from me.  The five framers started off with cloth masks.  That lasted about 1 hour.  The rest of the day the masks stayed off.       It’s pretty impossible for them to stay separated.  

      This is why we need to keep things closed down for a little longer.

      • WS Guy April 30, 2020 (11:20 am)

        “This is why we need to keep things closed down for a little longer.”

        No, this is why Inslee’s blanket lockdown doesn’t make any sense.  He should be using practical, targeted measures in high-risk areas.  Asking people to wear masks in parks and keeping young people apart does not have the same impact as, say, closing nursing homes to visitors.  Since the lockdown is an obvious overreach, sensible people make their own decisions.

        • Harumph Plopps April 30, 2020 (3:48 pm)

          Sensible people as well as unsensible people make decisions. Thank the unsensible ones for the blanket lockdown.

    • S - in West Seattle April 30, 2020 (2:08 pm)

      In what world do you think “Social Distancing” works on construction sites. A lot work happens in close quarters and sometimes 2 or more people are needed to be close to do work safely and properly. 

  • John Smith April 29, 2020 (3:22 pm)

    The initial reason for “social distancing” was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed with more patients than the hospitals could handle. That was accomplished. The sensible thing to do next is akin to driving the speed limit in a vehicle. Sometimes you coast, sometimes you press on the gas pedal, and sometimes you press on the brake pedal. “Doing it once” is not practical. Herd immunity cannot be achieved if nobody is exposed. We essentially accept a small percentage of annual deaths from flu virus, and it is becoming more apparent over time that this virus will eventually be similar. What about the at least 98% who *don’t* die from this virus? What about the harm done to people who can’t pay their bills if they are not allowed to go to work?

    • Bronson April 29, 2020 (3:42 pm)

      100% agree. If you think social distancing is going to result in 0% infection rate, then I have some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you. That seems to be what the governor is waiting on; that, and some pie-in-the sky testing target. Social distancing will not hold in a free society for much longer. Frankly, we need more people getting the virus in order to develop the required herd immunity, particularly in light of the probability that we aren’t going to see a vaccine this year. It is unfeasible to shut down the economy for much more time, and it shouldn’t be given the extremely low death rate or even hospitalization rate. Time for those with underlying conditions and of higher age to continue to shelter-in-place and be provided with the necessary financial assistance to ensure they are able to weather the storm. The rest of us need to get back to work for the greater good, both economically and health-wise. 

      • Colleen April 29, 2020 (4:08 pm)

        How about if the wealthy pay more taxes so we wouldn’t go 2 trillion dollars in debt. How about if people made a decent wage and health insurance didn’t cost so much so sick workers could stay home.

        • Duh April 29, 2020 (5:16 pm)

          We are way over the 2 trillion,  and climbing everyday. Don’t know how much more winning we can take. Not

      • Anne April 29, 2020 (4:08 pm)

        The rest of us?? It’s NOT just elderly or those with health issues that are getting sick & dying. If most of us had ben doing what’s been asked-begged pleaded with to do-we’d probably be farther down the road to opening up. Still going to store ( once a week only) & seeing MANY with no mask on. Selfish. 

        • Bronson April 29, 2020 (4:46 pm)

          @Anne – it is predominantly the older and those with underlying conditions. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but they are very limited.@Colleen – not sure what taxes has to do with us fighting a virus, at least not directly. It doesn’t matter how much money the government “spends.” Modern monetary theory holds that those governments with strong central banks can essentially print money, to no detriment. 

          • Thankfully April 29, 2020 (10:43 pm)

            ‘Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but they are very limited‘

            Thankfully, your perspective is the exception to the rule, and is very limited.

        • Dunno April 29, 2020 (6:58 pm)

          My question is, if a person had covid a month and a half ago, is there a need to wear a mask now?  Maybe to give peace of mind to others?   Really don’t know the answer.

          • Chelsea April 29, 2020 (7:44 pm)

            Since we don’t know the answer, we need to keep following the rules until we know it’s safe.

        • SH April 29, 2020 (8:12 pm)

          @Anne – Not selfish but practical. We need herd immunity.  And 90% of ppl who end up on ventilators have preexisting conditions (smokers, diabetes, heart disease)  We will NEVER be able to get to 0 infections, 0 deaths. Not until the vaccine is developed and widely distributed, which wont happen overnight.  Also, there are ppl who will not get vaccinated so you might be waiting forever.  We cant stay on the lock down forever and quite frankly most people understand that loosing the restrictions has nothing to do with PPE and social distancing.  We are past the stage where hospitals would be overcapacity, and now the politicians are picking and choosing what they want and what they think the “people/society” accepts as safe?  Is it really safe to go playing golf vs going to TJ and bumping elbows with families and older people to get something off the shelf?  Come on- let us start to use our brains a bit more before we believe everything the politicians say.  They are just like us.  Most dont know crap. 

          • N.A. April 30, 2020 (7:02 am)

            I agree.

      • Jim April 29, 2020 (4:22 pm)

        Exactly right, Bronson.  And that’s “following the science”, as is the latest overused saying.  

      • Um, No! April 29, 2020 (5:30 pm)

        @Bronson  < This guys gets it!  Very well said.  

      • Chelsea April 29, 2020 (7:43 pm)

        It’s not just elderly that are dying or at risk. People in their 20s, 30s, 40s, etc are dying. People in their 20s are having random strokes linked to covid. Even pugs are getting it. 

      • George Strait April 29, 2020 (11:25 pm)

        Everyone knows that I’ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona. Kansas?  Kansas?? Come on!

      • Also John April 30, 2020 (7:01 am)

        There is no scientific proof that having Covid-19 and surviving makes you immune.  South Korea has 100’s getting it twice.

    • MrsT April 29, 2020 (3:50 pm)

      It is an Unknown if humans develop an immunity to this. Time and science will tell. There is No vaccine. Time and science can hopefully solve that. There are Many viruses that have been around for decades and longer that we have failed at creating a vaccine for. It is highly contagious and the risk factors change often. Our lavishly rich Federal government should be paying everyone to stay home until we learn more and have better plans. 

      • Alki April 29, 2020 (7:05 pm)

        Not sure where you got lavishly rich. Our country is trillions of dollars in debt and it goes deeper every single day. Not sure what your definition of lavishly rich his but mine does not include people or countries that are deeply in debt. Just because our country can go deeper into debt doesn’t mean they should.

    • Juju April 29, 2020 (3:51 pm)

      Careful there with the commonsense.

      Tends to get the folks worked up!

      But you are spot on.

      Ever consider running for office?

    • newnative April 29, 2020 (4:04 pm)

      It’s not a project like you describe “That was accomplished”. Flattening the curve is an ongoing process, not static. We “accept” casualties from seasonal flu because there are widely available treatments and vaccines for the flu. Hospital ICUs aren’t overrun with people requiring life-saving treatment for the flu, as they are for COVID-19 sufferers. And in states where they kept things open for longer (New York), the cases skyrocketed and are still overwhelming the hospitals, morgues and healthcare facilities. 

      • Cool Rick April 29, 2020 (4:18 pm)

        Flattening the curve is a mitigation strategy and has in fact been accomplished. The problem is that we’re in this weird limbo between a mitigation strategy and a suppression strategy, and there’s been a lack of communication on which we’re pursuing. Suppression might not even be possible given what we now know about how infectious this is, and if that is the case we’re wasting time now and causing significant economic damage needlessly. Also, population density, mass transit, and demographics are why NY had the worst outbreak in the US,.

    • Matt P April 29, 2020 (4:04 pm)

      You can maintain social distance, wear masks, etc to slow the spread and still reopen.  But even the few “essential” businesses won’t follow this recommendation, so how can you expect everyone to?  There need to be mandates instead of guidelines.  And hospitals can quickly get overwhelmed again if there’s a surge of new cases.  We’re gradually getting cases anyway because of that subset of the population who won’t follow the rules.

    • psps April 29, 2020 (4:12 pm)

      Gee, thanks “Doctor John Smith.” I’ll be sure to pass on your educated words of wisdom at my relative’s and child’s funeral.  Why do people like you treat these decisions as if they were arbitrary? If you have a sad, write a letter to the virus. Your red face and stomping feet are precisely what will delay reopening and bring us successive waves of unnecessary suffering and death.

    • Hope April 29, 2020 (4:15 pm)

      Widespread vaccination is the other way to achieve herd immunity. Many lives are at stake.

      • Bronson April 29, 2020 (4:50 pm)

        @Hope – a vaccine is not going to happen for another year, if at all. People can’t afford to wait that long, nor will they, to be released from shelter at home. I’ve been at home for two months, shopping solely online, so have been doing my part, but that is likely to my detriment. We need to build our immunity. 

        • Aaron April 30, 2020 (11:57 am)

          @bronsonAre you suggesting that you go get exposed to the virus while volunteering to do essential work? That way we are one step closer to herd immunity AND you get to go outside? Sounds like a win/win! Thanks for the suggestion bronson, I’d hate to think you were advocating for something you wouldn’t be willing to do yourself. 

  • WSRes April 29, 2020 (3:26 pm)

    Nothing like waiting until Friday to tell us the bad news. He knows what date he will extend the order, why can’t he tell us now? Just tell us everything all at once, this daily bad news is getting old. Poor leadership in my opinion.

  • Aerial Observer April 29, 2020 (3:50 pm)

    Thanks to Gov. Inslee for following the science and hard data.  If we stop our social distancing now, we risk a huge increase in infections, hospitalizations, and deaths, throwing away all of the progress we’ve so far made. Nobody likes our current situation, but we’re doing well compared to states which didn’t start social distancing as early as we did here Washington State.

    • Alki April 29, 2020 (7:08 pm)

      Exactly what science is he following? I’m on clear of our goal here? Is it to torpedo our economy? To keep us all locked up? To eradicate the virus? Because of its to eradicate the virus that isn’t going to happen. So that’s the plan then was just opened everything up. I love how people are using the word science to sound smart.

    • S - in West Seattle April 30, 2020 (2:17 pm)

      Inslee is not following science and hard data. Because if he was he would see and you would see that the number of case has gone down. Plus the number of case that was predicted never happened. The only thing he is following is money and uncommon sense. Don’t get me started on the unequal essential work he had allowed. 

  • Ct April 29, 2020 (3:52 pm)

    Inslee is NOT  handling this well. As experts are saying : herd immunity cannot be achieved if everyone isolatesI agree with above comment by John Smith

    • Robert April 29, 2020 (4:37 pm)

      This is not about achieving herd immunity.  This is about not overrunning an already broken system.  If that’s what you think it is, then you are watching the wrong news station.  

    • Ali April 29, 2020 (9:51 pm)

      Herd immunity is a term used when those who can get immunized (in a safe way) can do so so other who cannot don’t have to and are not at risk at coming in contact with the illness. It does not mean sacrificing all those who are vulnerable so everyone else who most likely will live can get on with their lives. How people are taling about herd immunity is essentially let a large swath of folks die as we who are healthy build up this immunity for future folks or those fortunate enough to have hidden from the virus long enough live (…well, maybe if this thing is a one and done thing…but we don’t even know that yet). 

  • Graciano April 29, 2020 (3:53 pm)

    $1.00  says it May 31st

    • Bronson April 29, 2020 (4:52 pm)

      Knowing the governor, he will open day after Memorial Day so we all have to stay inside for the holiday weekend; much like his relaxation of the recreation restrictions, which of course is after this weekend. 🙄

      • NotAToddler April 29, 2020 (8:03 pm)

        Finally, you’ve stated your real argument for lifting the stay at home order.  Bronson wants to go out and play.

        • Bronson April 29, 2020 (8:25 pm)

          Nah – I’m a Gen X introvert who is enjoying my time away from the masses. However, I’m also deeply cynical about manipulation by those in power, and it just seems manipulative on the Governor’s part. 

    • HS April 29, 2020 (6:45 pm)

      $1.00 June 3rd

    • angry peasant April 30, 2020 (5:55 am)

      $1.00 on November 3rd.

  • CL April 29, 2020 (3:53 pm)

    Just like in business, addressing living with Covid is a management issue, specifically a crisis management issue.  With any management issue the managers have to have the buyin of those being managed to produce a positive outcome.  If those being managed are not on board they will just not do what is preferred no matter the “rules” that are imposed.  Sometimes the approach needs to adjust so that perfection is not the enemy of good.  Bottom line is when the rubber meets the road, it will be up to the people to do what is required to move forward.  This is about living with Covid, not getting rid of Covid or hiding from Covid hopefully without experiencing a huge unsustainable cost. 

    • Alki April 29, 2020 (7:10 pm)

      This is a perfect explanation. We’re not going to get rid of it and those that are risk can absolutely continue to social distance themselves. Nobody is keeping anybody from social distancing the keeping everybody from social distancing is getting a little bit old. I was in for the first two months now it’s time to lift the bands and let people be responsible for themselves. I understand their science but there’s also freedoms and the two can co-exist.

      • WSB April 29, 2020 (7:24 pm)

        The stay-home order has been in effect for five weeks (announced hours after the West Seattle Bridge closure announcement; I’ll never forgetthat day). FEELS like two months, though…

        • Hoku April 29, 2020 (8:44 pm)

          Nailed it!

  • TJ April 29, 2020 (3:57 pm)

    We can’t hide inside forever Inslee. He can use all the “data” he wants, but more and more people are getting tired of this and will get back to normal as much as possible. We clearly can’t do this until a vaccine is made and fully available, so we may as well give people their personal liberties back and for those who are afraid then stay inside, but enough with the disgust some express on here of people out living their lives. I leave tomorrow for my annual trip with 12 friends, all who are moving on from this. The economy can’t handle this much longer, and begging the federal government for money won’t get anywhere much longer.

    • flimflam April 29, 2020 (5:15 pm)

      tell us again for the 6th time about your very essential annual trip…

    • Mark S April 29, 2020 (6:10 pm)

      TJ, I sincerely hope with all of my heart that you and your friends and their families and loved ones are all still with us a year from now and that nobody innocent will have pay the ultimate price for you and your friends’ unbelievable selfishness.

    • Ws4ever April 29, 2020 (7:09 pm)

      Yes. This exactly. Putin didn’t order any stay at home garbage or anoying social distancing. The people can go to their local rock quarries for an uninterrupted mandatory 20 hour work day and cough in each other’s faces with NO consequences. They can frequent their governmentally sanctioned coffee depository every second Thursday with NO restrictions at all! Only the strong survive in Russia. They don’t need to worry about overrunning the healthcare system because they HAVE no healthcare system! We should strive to be more like Russia. It will be better for our nation and better for the American people in the long run. Just look at Russia! 

      • angry peasant April 30, 2020 (6:06 am)

        It’s interesting how our situation in Washington state right now resembles Soviet Russia.

  • Alki resident April 29, 2020 (4:20 pm)

    Why is Inslee suddenly wearing a mask? Nobody else on the platform is. All of his other speeches, no mask. This clown can stay home and self isolate. The rest of us need to go back to work in May. 

    • WSB April 29, 2020 (4:45 pm)

      He was wearing a mask briefly at the very start before they cut to the closeup cam. Having listened to the media-line audio, I can tell you there were other people in the room, sound check etc. The sign-language interpreter was an appropriate distance away. There was no one else there – the others who joined him were via teleconference.

  • want a new leader April 29, 2020 (4:44 pm)

                      BRONSON FOR GOVERNOR!!!

    • NotAToddler April 29, 2020 (8:07 pm)

      Yes!  Of Florida.

  • skeeter April 29, 2020 (4:46 pm)

    I don’t understand why it’s called a “stay at home” order.  Golf courses are re-opening on May 5.  I doubt that even 1% of Washingtonians live within walking distance of a golf course.  You have to get in your car to drive to a golf course.  So why are we calling it a “stay at home” order if you can get in your car to drive to a recreational destination?  Don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying I’m for or against golf courses in Washington re-opening.  But the terminology is confusing.  

  • Testing 123... April 29, 2020 (4:50 pm)

    I watched the press conference and it wasn’t about construction workers wearing masks, personal freedoms or herd immunity. The point I took away is the fact that we still cannot test at the levels needed to fully understand how to deal with this. Someone somewhere is failing. We (our entire country) need wide scale testing to get our denominator. Until then…we can all either continue to sit on our high horses or our chambers of denial. 

  • Um, No! April 29, 2020 (4:57 pm)

    Personally I’m tired of hearing we need to “flatten the curve”.   Every curve I saw except maybe the possible  “if we don’t continue to social distance” predictions has been flattened and has now been turned significantly down.    How much farther do we need to go before we reopen? Like it or not, we are never going to get to zero and there will always be a risk of transmission.   At some point, and I’ve said it before,  you have to take that leap and see what happens.   Where is that point?   Does Inslee have an acceptable number of deaths and new cases he will be happy with before opening up?  I know that sounds harsh but it’s the reality.   At some point,  we will have to live with a certain number.  And don’t go giving me the “no death is acceptable” lecture. Clearly we don’t want even one more death from this but that’s not the reality we are living in.  And it never will be.      Inslee’s Grade;  C- 

    • AMD April 29, 2020 (7:23 pm)

      The state has a new dashboard where you can see metrics they’re using to make decisions, and how things are looking for each of those criteria (with their sources).  Right now the biggest barrier appears to be testing and tracing, to prevent resurgence.  No one’s saying we haven’t flattened the curve; they’re saying all evidence points to losing those gains and having another outbreak if we can’t monitor the virus more closely via testing.  https://coronavirus.wa.gov/what-you-need-know/covid-19-risk-assessment-dashboard

      • Um, No! April 29, 2020 (7:48 pm)

        No,  the Governor keeps saying we need to flatten the curve or continue to flatten the curve. We’re past that. I can read the dashboard, I’m questioning whether the Governor can?  

        • AMD April 29, 2020 (9:32 pm)

          “Continu[ing] to flatten the curve” means stopping the virus from spreading wider.  That’s LITERALLY what it means.  Flat means it’s not going up or down.  It’s flat.  Th “R1” metric mentioned doesn’t mean eradicating it, it means if one person is infected, they only infect one other person to the number of infected people stays the same (or lower, hopefully).  It’s an ongoing process to keep it that way, per Fauci and every other expert on the subject.  I don’t think you’re going to be capable of accepting any answer from the governor until you’re able to open yourself to the possibility that he has already given you the information you’re demanding.  The governor isn’t going to respond to your cabin fever.  He’s going to move based on experts and the data.  Which he is being FAR more transparent about than any other governor I have seen thus far.

          • Um, No! April 30, 2020 (7:22 am)

            Cabin Fever?  LOL,   Yeah, no cabin fever here.  I’m more worried about  crushing our economy.  We are never going to completely flatten the curve.  We are never going to get to zero.  At least not for a very long while.   And guess what,  we will have completely reopened long before that.   At some point, the approach we’re taking with the Stay At Home directive needs to be flipped.   Per the State’s numbers,  91% of deaths are age 60 and older.   38 %  between 60 to 79 and 53% are 80 years old or greater.  And I suspect the majority of the 60 to 79 group are skewed much more closely to the 79.    Of those who have died,  it’s pretty widely accepted now that most already had underlying health issues. If you look at the numbers,  very few healthy people are dying.  That’s a fact.   Why are we making our entire population Stay at Home at this point?  The fear mongers say go outside and you’ll kill us.   Give me a break.   People are going to continue to get sick from this virus for a long time and the vast majority (again factual numbers here) will fully recover.   Why can’t those who are at higher risk (age. health, etc)or those who are so afraid of their own shadow and think the site of a person without a mask is going to kill them just continue to Stay At Home and let the rest of the state start getting back to normal?  We keep hearing heard immunity.  That’s real and based on science.   If someone is in fear of getting sick, stay home and don’t go out.  Let people know you prefer to shelter in place and take the appropriate measures to do so.   Based on the data that the Governor keeps referring to,   we are at a point we can do this.   Flip the approach. We absolutely know (per factual data) who is most susceptible to potentially dying from this. Focus on those people.   I get Inslee wants to have his 1500 person  Fire Brigade in place along with the 20K testing capacity but how long is that really going to take?  Right now, at least for testing capacity, he’s relying on the feds.  Good luck on that!  Once we get close to these two goals,  he better start flipping our approach.  No more blanket measures and let’s start rebuilding our economy and get people back to work earning a paycheck. 

      • Christina Hill April 29, 2020 (9:03 pm)

        I hate to say it, but we’ve been waiting 5 weeks for them to figure out how to get testing in place at the right levels.  Exactly how long is getting that in order going to take?  Another 2 weeks? Another 5?  I would appreciate some transparency.  I get it.  Telling us they need another 5 weeks to get sufficient tests will result in mass noncompliance.  That doesn’t make it less frustrating to have everything up in the air. 

        • AMD April 30, 2020 (9:34 am)

          The problem is that they don’t know.  The governor of Maryland had to call in a favor from some contacts in South Korea to get tests for his state.  We have the capacity, but some test components have supply chain issues, and test kits are being taken and hoarded for the national stockpile.  There is a clear and present need for widespread testing which has been repeated over and over by dozens of experts from several countries for months now.  Mass noncompliance will not change supply chain or other issues, all it will do is cause new spike in infections.  Adding to the problem is the fact that the Drumpf administration has made promises before about timelines and test availability that turned out to be untrue.  So, yes, SUPER frustrating for all of us, but until Washington state physically has possession of what they need to test they can’t be sure it’s coming, and there is no way to predict when that will be.  It’s a hot mess and a legitimate barrier to moving forward.

  • Bcmm April 29, 2020 (5:20 pm)

    5th of July?? 

  • Mj April 29, 2020 (6:00 pm)

    Enough is enough, it’s time to get on with re-opening the economy with reasonable precautions. 

    Reading through the comments sentiment to open it up is rising quickly, and rightfully so. 

    The goal to flatten the curve and allow hospitals to prepare happened and this never ending extension is becoming intolerable and is destroying people’s livelihood.

  • KBear April 29, 2020 (6:06 pm)

    Lots ignorance and science denial on display here. Science will win. Might as well get on board. The governor knows what he’s talking about. 

  • SDW April 29, 2020 (6:55 pm)

    It is a good idea for people to stay home and stay safe.

  • AlexC April 29, 2020 (7:04 pm)

    As an essential worker the longest I have been able to go without interacting with the public via bus and work has been 2 days at a time. I strongly believe the reason people like me have stayed safe is because the rest of you have been staying home. I know it’s frustrating for those of you itching to see your friends and family or go back to work but staying home is keeping us all safe, even those of us who can’t stay home. Please keep up the good work!

    • me April 29, 2020 (8:00 pm)

      Thank you, we will!

      It’s not easy but it’s better than getting sick, or getting other people sick and then making it take even longer.

    • Chelsea April 29, 2020 (8:02 pm)

      I am a healthcare worker and I couldn’t agree more.

  • Curtis April 29, 2020 (8:01 pm)

    I am done following Jay’s orders.  By the Constitution his emergency powers are 30 day limit.  It has to go to Congress now.  This has become political it needs to be rolled back. 

    • KBear April 29, 2020 (8:36 pm)

      Well, fortunately they anticipated people might disobey, so most businesses are closed. Try not to get us all killed, Curtis. Thanks for being a good citizen. 

  • rob April 29, 2020 (8:25 pm)

     we always get an up date of positives for the virus, why isn’t the Times  giving people the numbers on recovery.  In hawaii there posting  a 87% recovery rate so far  

    • WSB April 29, 2020 (10:42 pm)

      I have answered that multiple times already. This state doesn’t break it down thst way. You can certainly take all the numbers that ARE available and crunch your oen version / msybe cases minus current hospitalizations, for example.

  • Jommy Jins April 29, 2020 (8:33 pm)

    Honest question – if everything just opens back up now/soon why does anyone think it will be any different than February/March with this virus spreading like wildfire? What’s changed?

    • Greg April 30, 2020 (2:14 am)

      Some of us think that it will flare up again.  Much social behavior has been severely altered.  65k at a stadium is out of the question.  I won’t enter a restaurant for at least a year.  Skeleton crew is the safest until a therapeutic emerges.  Prepare to survive.

    • angry peasant April 30, 2020 (6:18 am)

      There’s the possibility that the virus has been around a month or 2 before the first case was detected. That would mean a large percentage of the population have already been exposed. Due to the mild symptoms for the healthy, most folks wrote it off as a cold. We won’t know for sure until we get adequate antibody testing in place.

    • Jim April 30, 2020 (9:18 am)

      “Everything” doesn’t need to open back up right away.  Just get on with the phased in approach.  Quit the delaying.

    • Sue April 30, 2020 (9:59 am)

      I agree. If everything goes back to “normal” and people stop staying apart and stop wearing masks, we’re right back to where it was before. 

  • Greystreet April 30, 2020 (8:45 am)

    Cabin fever is clearly starting to manifest. I completely empathize with all of the feelings here, I’ve been furloughed for going on 6 weeks because my line of work was deemed “unessential”, thankfully elective surgical procedures are beginning to return; however, we are all shooting the messenger here. Yes, it is easy to point the finger at Inslee because he’s dad telling you that you can’t use the car on Friday night, or go to the lake with your friends, or catch the new horror flick at the theatre and it enrages all of us. The point here is plain and simple, the work we have been doing is WORKING, but we can’t just throw caution to the wind and turn the dial up to max volume when our incremental efforts have shown to be for all of our well-beings. Yes, I realize I’m speaking metaphorically here, but it would seem from everyone’s emotions, scientific speak is only causing more anger because it can be confusing and at times, contradictory but the focus remains the same: reduce infection rates, buy time to accrue more testing supplies, test to understand the prevalence and make calculated decisions based on that knowledge alone. I heard a gentleman on NPR yesterday (The Daily segment), ask Gov. Whitmer to “trust the Michiganders” to follow a new social paradigm–I agree with him totally but I also know that there will be rotten apples in the bunch. I don’t have any answers, just expressing my continued frustrations with the rest of you, please be patient, we ARE doing the right things.

  • Chris K April 30, 2020 (12:48 pm)

    It’s refreshing to see a leader base decisions on science and data instead of emotion.

  • KM April 30, 2020 (1:36 pm)

    dear lord. these comments. If we don’t stay in NOW until wide spread testing is available and/or a vaccine, we are going to have to do this over and over again if people want things to “open up again”. Then how are you going to feel? Even more upset. Does it take someone you personally know to die to care? Do you not care that our healthcare workers have been worked to the bone? This sucks, I get it. But in the scheme of life, you can hang out in your house for a few months.  Not that hard.

  • Thankfully April 30, 2020 (7:21 pm)

     @um, no!

    “it’s pretty widely accepted now that most already had underlying health issues. If you look at the numbers,  very few healthy people are dying. That’s a fact.   Why are we making our entire population Stay at Home at this point?”

    Wow, so you’re essentially saying if someone has any underlying health issues, we shouldn’t be concerned about their lives? You do not have more of a right to be out and working, than a person with asthma has the right to continue living.

    • Um, No! May 1, 2020 (7:34 am)

      @thankfully  Wow! Please re-read by post.  That’s clearly not what I am saying at all.   Good grief.  How high is that horse of yours?  

      • Thankfully May 1, 2020 (7:48 pm)

        Then please explain your point when you said, ‘it’s pretty widely accepted now that most already had underlying health issues. If you look at the numbers,  very few healthy people are dying. That’s a fact. Why are we making our entire population Stay at Home at this point?”  

        Um, because we want as many people as possible to survive this pandemic. Including people with underlying health issues.

        • Um, No! May 4, 2020 (8:04 am)

          Geesh,  Again, re-read my original post.   I’m not saying we shouldn’t be concern about the lives of those most at risk. Those the one we should be most concerned about.   I’m saying at some point, fairly soon,  our approach should be for those most at risk to continue to stay at home and self isolate if they choose.  Let the rest of the population start getting back to normal and start letting our economy start to recover.   We factually know who’s most at risk based on scientific data.    So please,  re-read my post and take your emotion out of it.  Think clearly and rationally before you accuse me of not being concerned about someone’s life. Get over yourself and get off your emotional high horse.  If you can’t understand what I’m saying, that’s on you. 

          • newnative May 4, 2020 (9:49 am)

            No “Um, No”, it’s on you. Protecting the most vulnerable is done by stopping/slowing transmission, stopping/slowing the transmission isn’t done by keeping only “at-risk” quarantined. It’s keeping the people who are infected quarantined. It’s public information for anyone to read/hear that this virus is spread among otherwise healthy people. So, there are people out there transmitting the virus and then it’s (statistically speaking) the more vulnerable that are getting sick and dying. This is on top of overwhelming our healthcare system, which then affects a wide range of people. Take for instance, the Lummi community, who had a new outbreak that has been traced to a group of children meeting to play. I don’t have faith with a lot of people. We all have access to the information, the news and “the facts” about stopping the spread. Yet, people like you use emotional and inflammatory language like “paranoid”, “fear monger” [sic] and you are displaying that in fact, you don’t understand the very  basics of how diseases are spread or contained. I live in a relatively affluent neighborhood and yet I see people ignoring basic hygiene guidelines and requests from grocery stores (bringing in their filthy kids, eating stuff, touching everything, adults coughing out in the open, not wearing masks, not keeping their distance, et al). I think we should treat this like the crisis it is and stay at home as much as possible.

  • Jim May 1, 2020 (6:37 am)

    That is such fear-based hyperbole.  The person with asthma has options on how to continue living safely and has no need (right) to destroy the lives of others by taking away their options.  

    • Thankfully May 1, 2020 (7:51 pm)

      Economic hardship is not as serious a problem as death is.

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