Comments on: West Seattle Crime Watch: Armed robbery starts in Roxhill Park, ends in Safeway https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/ West Seattle news, 24/7 Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mardi https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2048768 Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:43:36 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2048768  @WSB You are correct about there not being any shelters in WS, but the majority of the people camping in our area are not from WS to begin with and moved here just like they have sprawled to outlying neighborhoods all over Seattle. The fact is is that the shelters that Seattle does have are NOT full each night because people do not want to follow the rules associated with sleeping at a shelter. I certainly want to help the mentally ill! And the addicts without enabling them! But what about all of the others?! Some are down and out not by choice, but there are thousands others that choose to not have any overhead because that would mean that they also needed to get a job. Which they won’t do because they are too good to do labor or work in a service position. Thise people should all be forced to get jobs and rent their own apartments(with roommates if they must) ]]> By: S https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2048097 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:50:26 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2048097 I never take my kids to that park unless I have my gun with me.  The easy solution is not to go there, but it’s my kids favorite park and when we drive by it all the time its hard to tell him no we cannot go. 

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By: Josh https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2048047 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:43:14 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2048047

Right on!

This was middle of the day, a Sunday, in broad daylight! Somebody walking with a backpack gets victimized with a gun! How much more serious can it get? I understand “don’t walk by the park after dark” etc., which as Fall/Winter approaches is 5pm on. But this is a whole new level of having our neighborhood taken away. 

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By: furor scribendi https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047994 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 04:43:37 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047994 I’ve lived within spitting distance of Roxhill Park for over twenty-eight years, and while it used to be a treeless playground for good and not good activity, the reforestation in the late 90’s to early 00’s made it more attractive to lovers of crime: shoplifters, addicts, the unfortunate homeless, and a murder or two. Adding the bus stop made it Grand Central for anyone looking to shop (crossing Barton) or to score (turning into the park) and the Great Wall of Buses further insulates the park from necessary scrutiny or use by innocent park users. This has been a gradual situation; it’s not the buses fault, but the buses contribute enough unintended consequences to make the whole situation much more difficult on the neighborhood. It will take good research, planning, community involvement, and taking decisionmakers to task to solve, and not more mud slinging folks.

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By: East Coast Cynic https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047991 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 04:35:50 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047991 In reply to Double Dub Resident.

I’m guessing the rationale for letting the homeless camp in the parks is that it beats them camping in your front yard?  Your backyard?  storefront doorways?   Bigger broader institutional problems causing homelessness (which is a big problem in many cities across the country in addition to ours) may well be outside of the city’s capacity to handle so the best they can do within their means with public safety in mind is to isolate them in the park. 

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By: dairmuid https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047989 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 04:05:19 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047989 Re: police cars on 10th and Henderson

I heard a cluster of gun shots in the middle of the night which was probably related to that (I’m a block away from there). One of my neighbors told me that last night he heard a scuffle, a guy get into his car and drive away and 3 guys chase after him in another car. Not sure if they’re related, but they probably are…

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By: Junction Lady https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047987 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:57:49 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047987 NYC began its turn-around of Times Square with Mayor Ed Koch and then subsequent leaders and police continue to maintain the policies.  We should learn from their examples.   If we don’t assist the homeless,  mentally ill and drug addicted to move in a healthy/positive direction we are sadly looking at Hoovervilles in any public space the leaders of this town allow to occupy.  I have written to Mayor Murray and Robert Nellums, SCC, regarding the sorry state of our city; from their replies they clearly don’t understand my point of view. 

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By: Double Dub Resident https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047983 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:33:09 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047983 @Pops,  

If I have time  tomorrow I’ll reply to your reply 

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By: Double Dub Resident https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047982 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:31:08 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047982 @Joe, 

  If you don’t live in Westwood then you really have no place to tell its residents to stop it,    with your arm chair criticisms from your neighborhood of what Westwood residents ‘ experiences are in  their neighborhood. 

I’ve lived in Westwood for almost 2 decades and have seen changes in  Westwood that started with Nickelsville. My neighborhood was fairly quiet up until then,  but then I started experiencing beer cans and alcohol bottles in my yard.  People started walking up and down the street yelling and fighting with each other and neighbors started reporting a dramatic rise in petty crime.  This is also about the time I started noticing pan handling at the Westwood Village entrances /exits. Even when Nickelsville left,  the remnants remained.  

The introduction of the bus stops only exacerbated this situation. And as pointed out,  go talk to the Westwood businesses about crime there now. For example,  I cannot even count how many times I have been to QFC  since the busses  were put in to see the police arresting a shoplifter or someone threatening customers or an employee.  It got so bad for Rite Aid,  they got their own security,  and recently at QFC I even saw an armed security guard working there,  which when I spoke with him about it,  he said was only temporary.  

  The sketchy crowd that loitered QFC got so bad that I asked them if they could do something about it,  and they actually did.  They boarded up the pay phones and put the shopping carts in the way.  Which BTW was another thing I started to see in my yard when Nickelsville came to town.  

I drive to work between 4:30 and 5 am through Westwood and it HAS gotten worse. Come on down, take the tour and check it out for yourself. 

 No one is claiming that everything was just hunky dory at Roxhill before the busses were put in,  only that it has gotten worse since they have.  

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By: AMD https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047980 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:22:28 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047980 In reply to Joe Szilagyi.

Hear, hear.

That place has been a problem as long as I’ve lived here.

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By: Kadoo https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047971 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 02:04:15 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047971 If you don’t like the sound of Council Bill 118794 which would allow more tent/vehicle camping in parks and other areas, send an email to each city council member and the mayor.  Tim Burgess is the only one on the council who opposes the bill.  There has not been enough coverage on this issue, which makes me think the city just wants a back room deal without input from the public.  Not only will this bill not solve homelessness, but the city will be subject to a $250 fine, payable to the displaced camper, if they don’t follow procedures for removal after 30 days.  I’m not sure who ever thought camping was a good solution for a place like Seattle, but it’s not.  Now is the time to comment; they are just starting work on this bill.  

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By: Alisa https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047964 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:48:10 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047964 Not to burst anyone’s idea of what West Seattle is like, butThis park has been this way long before the shiny swing sets and skate park were put in place. It’s an open space with lots of places to hang out/ hide/ access to services, etc and improving home values or 3 Starbucks nearby doesn’t equate to safer neighborhoods/parks. I’m not sure how we can improve the issue, I’m just saying that this area has always be questionable. 

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By: JRR https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047962 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:36:34 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047962 Hey, maybe if all us well-intentioned neighbors used the park, we would run out the riff raff. The answer can’t be “stay home and lock your doors.”

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By: Norman https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047961 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:32:44 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047961 I had no Idea that there were only 6-7 police cars, for all of West Seattle, that’s very concerning to me , that is not by far enough in this day and age.

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By: Heather Nordlund https://westseattleblog.com/2016/09/west-seattle-crime-watch-armed-robbery-starts-in-roxhill-park-ends-in-safeway/#comment-2047959 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:15:17 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=857476#comment-2047959 As a pregnant woman with a young child I feel like a sitting duck in roxhill park. I live in the neighborhood and want to support the local businesses but there are usually more sketchy folks than kids in that park. 

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