Just back from checking out a tip (thank you!) about a major police response at 11th SW and SW Barton, where officers tell us they are investigating another case of gunfire. A bullet fired from somewhere outside a house (not the one in the photo) went through a wall, reportedly into a bedroom. No one was hit or hurt. That’s all they could tell us so far; we’ll look for the report tomorrow to see what else they find out.
This is getting bleeping stupid!!! These bleeping POS people are going to hurt or kill someone!!! The police really need to start looking at any available traffic cams around the areas where these incidents are happening and see if they can’t find a vehicle that happens to be in the area during these indents and get some leads.
I’m getting tired of these POS running around West Seattle shooting their guns like this is the bleeping wild west!!
I hope when they get caught and are crying like the little cowards they are, the book gets thrown at them!
FYI, there are no traffic cameras anywhere near this area, nor any other areas where we’ve reported recent gunfire incidents. There are far few traffic cameras around than you might think, and even if there were – the video is not recorded. SDOT’s cameras are mapped here: http://web6.seattle.gov/travelers/
This has been going on for months and the city thinks we’re just being hysterical. This seems pretty real to me, Mr. Murray.
There’s a pretty big difference between the ridiculous histrionics in freaking Magnolia over parked RVs and property crime and what may be an open gunfire gang war spilling back and forth between Delridge and parts of SE Seattle.
Density, people not being tied to the community, and a weak mayor who is a bleeding liberal who are driving out the middle class
gives a reason to support the 2 nd amendment, to protect yourself and your family from theses thugs
Density? I don’t routinely report the zoning of where crimes happen, but FYI since you mention it – both of the incidents on which we reported this weekend happened in neighborhoods that are single-family housing for blocks around. – TR
@Free Speech…just a word…us bleeding liberals aren’t happy with the mayor either…..
Some people here lately are commenting “for cameras” (not just Eric) to try and catch these “Piece’s Of Sh*t” but if I remember correctly a few years back here on the blog there was talk of putting cameras up at Alki and people screamed “our privacy” would be invaded.
Its either all or none??? having fun at Alki or catching these POS shooting randomly thru our neighborhoods?
people watching too much TeeVee where anything is possible, and there are cameras all over the city so they can track cars and crime and the bad guys…it’s not reality…..
This particular area seems to be a meet up hub where drug dealers connect at. There is no reason not to have cameras at the fire station, they can definitely afford some. 7-11 should have some, too. You’d be surprised how effective some cameras and some signage letting people know that they are being observed/recorded can be. So be proactive! Also, why not have a patrol vehicle in that intersection A LOT, instead of down on Alki, over at Barnes and Noble, etc. If I were in charge of have more vehicles on patrol in that area, period. If these thugs can be out and about all night doing what they please, and it’s obvious we know their MO, why not intercept them at their favorite places to operate. There is absolutely no reason that the police can’t be making arrest after arrest in the area on a daily/nightly basis. Perhaps they’re afraid of being shot, and I don’t blame them, but this is ridiculous and needs to be corrected NOW.
You might be thinking of 16th/Holden, where there’ve been past gunfire incidents. Last night’s incident happened in an all-residential neighborhood more than a mile south of there, and there’s no fire station nearby; the nearest 7-11 is Delridge/Henderson, more than a half-mile away.
Yes, I realized that soon after submitting my comment. Whoops! My opinion about cameras and their ability to deter crime (as well as procecute offenders) still stand and I still believe that the intersection of 16th and Holden needs them along with heavy police presence. More patrols, more attention to suspicious people/vehicles and more cameras need to happen regardless as it is an area plagued with criminal behavior. Unfortunately, it seems that the criminals know that this isn’t happening, so they feel comfortable doing as they please, when they please. Enough is enough. As for the cameras on Alki, what a mess. They’ve been installed, so let’s use them! It’s a public place and it’s only going to be a positive. Anybody complaining about privacy needs to wake up! It’s 2016 and things are out of control. Only if you are engaging in criminal acts of have something to hide should you be concerned with privacy on a public thoroughfare…
I, for one, will not trade surveillance cameras for a false sense of security. Cameras won’t stop crime, it may record it but criminals don’t care because we don’t punish crime even if they are caught.
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I don’t have anything to hide but I don’t have anything to fear either. Criminals usually prey on each other so unless you are a criminal, you have nothing to be afraid of. Why do YOU need cameras for protection against gunfire? My house has never had a drive by and my friends don’t carry. Funny how that works. I just wish that criminals would learn to shoot straight.
Guns have been an issue in this neighborhood for at least the past 8 years. It’s something block watches and police have been trying to address. Obviously we need to do more but it’s worth pointing out that it’s not as bad as it was about 4 years ago. I’ve heard that one reason for the gun activity is the quick access from Roxbury – drugs, gangs, etc.
Regarding the camera issue. George Orwell’s world is here but how do we use it?
There is a huge difference between private and government surveillance.
A citizen or business is legally allowed to have cameras, while the government has many restrictions which protect our rights as citizens.
Yes, Eric, you’re right. They don’t care and they don’t fear reprocussion. That’s a huge problem and it’s unacceptable. However, when a person knows that they are being watched, be it by a camera or a live person, they tend to move on. It shouldn’t give a false sense of security, rather it’s one small step toward diluting the heavy flow of criminal activity. We were having problems with vandalism at our business, but once we installed some cameras and signage it all came to a stop. It’s not fool-proof, but it can be just the proof you need to prosecute these fools…
Eric1- the object is not to shoot straight and only aim at your rival. The object is to hit as many innocent people as possible.
Congratulations citizens of Seattle, we are finally getting the police department and community that everyone wants! Or at least the one that the loudest, most vocal, agenda driven one’s want.
SPD is understaffed right now, both in comparison to historic levels, and compared to the numbers that a city this size/with our average crime rate needs. So, to upstaff certain areas you either need to pull patrols from other areas, or pay out large amounts of overtime. Both of which will likely lead to howls of outrage from the good citizens of this fair city.
Or, you could hire a lot of people. Of course, that takes money, time and effort. And if you want to do it right, and get good people, especially with the clear reputation that SPD and the city of Seattle has, it will take a lot of time. And probably lead to howls of outrage from the good citizens of Seattle when the SPD budget goes up and the ratio of police:citizens goes up.
Now add in that the morale level within the department is shite right now (seriously, find a cop and talk to them sometime) as it’s been made pretty clear that the support from the top of the department and the city administration is gone, and that cops have been cast as the newest whipping boys who are under a microscope (as they unfortunately need to be), and this leads to less and less proactive policing. Which in turn leads to dirtbags getting emboldened and acting out more and more with the knowledge that they can get away with it. Which leads to…well…look around.
Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.
I’m flabbergasted that someone is actually going to try to NIMBY this up as a “density problem” causing the problem at this location.
Behold your density in this link.
Amen. Nearly half the responses here have me wondering if the commenter has even been to this neighborhood. Hopefully there will be an update that sheds a little more light on what’s going on so everyone can stop these bizarre speculations.
Good Lord, I wonder how many people who are so quick to invoke 1984 actually even read it, or just parrot what’s been told to them?
I said traffic cams which has helped the police in the past. I was not referring to specific CCTV surveillance cameras. Both of which are in public anyway. So it’s difficult to invade your privacy while you’re in public. You know, like all the stores you patronize.
It is also ridiculous to think that since a crime hasn’t happened to you specifically, that it doesn’t happen to other innocent people. That is seriously egocentric to think so
Eric, you sarcasm detector is off. Not liking surveillance cameras doesn’t mean I have something to hide. Much like someone wanting them doesn’t mean they are innocent. I just reversed the scenario for effect.
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I just don’t think conditions warrant cameras. Besides, where would you put them? Then think about the neighborhood demographics. Yep, it is a no-go in this PC-paralyzed city unless you want cameras everywhere.
For anyone checking back … the report is not “through transcription” yet, per my call a moment ago to check again with SPD. If that doesn’t happen in the next few hours, it’ll be tomorrow, but we’ll definitely have a followup whenever we get it – TR
Huh, didn’t realize I was being sarcastic. Just observing the knee jerk reactions that are so quick to invoke Orwell, that it wasn’t even read that I was referring to traffic cameras.
Nor did I say it was about hiding something. I said to think since you haven’t been a victim of a violent crime doesn’t mean that other innocent people are not.
Nor have I anywhere in this thread said to put CCTV cameras up.
If it makes you feel better, your comment about looking for them through traffic cameras made me think of Zootopia, not 1984.
Bla bla bla, what about this, what about that?? People’s rights, people, people, people. Drugs, lowlifes, bla bla bla. This attitude, West Seattleites, is a big part of the problem. The problem is ALMOST black and white, yet nothing positive will arise from all of this. Everybody is just going to keep on living in fear (concern) and do nothing to fix the issue. We’ll all be commenting about a solution when the next “violent crime” occurs tonight, tomorrow or next week. I have been thinking about patrolling these “problem” areas myself since there seems to be a lack of police presence. If I do, I’m considering starting my own blog where people can submit photos of criminals, their vehicles and where they were seen breaking the law. What good will that do? I don’t know, but who else is going to enforce these areas where CRIME IS HAPPENING EVERY DAY and EVERY NIGHT. Yeah, I have learned who is doing what when and where, so if nobody else is going to try stop it, who will??
***Whatever happened to that crime fighter (Phoenix Jones) anyway? That guy was on the level…
Oh? You mean Seattle’s own one-time “superhero?” (read: mental-case LARPer) How was he “on the level?” If he’d had the sack for his intended avocation, he’d have gone through police training and put on a badge. But if he was REALLY into the whole street-justice vigilante thing, we’d have NEVER known about him. If you’re actually all about taking down the bad guys with whom the cops either can’t or won’t deal, the LAST thing you do is even let people know you exist in that capacity, let alone talk to the press and show your face on local TV. He was in it for a uniquely puerile form of self-aggrandizement, nothing more.
And WTF have you done “dark bird”? By your own premise, I guess the Guardian Angels of New York were the same?
I like the blog idea, Image. I always thought the WSB, should have like a sticky page where photos and descriptions on criminals, cars, etc. could be quickly referenced and cross referenced by readers.
Sorry, comment time is over.
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