Comments on: West Seattle Crime Watch: ‘Flasher’ suspect Duane Atwood charged, re-jailed, under investigation in other cases https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/ West Seattle news, 24/7 Wed, 06 Aug 2014 03:45:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Aaron1084 https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1440256 Wed, 06 Aug 2014 03:45:58 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1440256 @Yaten – I applaud your loyalty to your friend, the nobility there is admirable. However, I have a strong suspicion that Duane gave you a different account of the 2000 incident.

He did not get a sex offender designation by ‘peeing outside’. The excerpt in the center of this article is directly from the courthouse. Those are SOME of the things he was charged with.
Some.

You don’t believe it? Go down to the courthouse yourself and look. Read. KNOW.
Who was most likely to lie to you?
The guy writing this article?
Or Duane?

Manipulation & lies. Yaten. That’s what these guys do. Mind games… sudden drama. Control issues… Always someone else’ fault… Sound familiar? These are symptoms of personality disorders, bad ones.

Stay with him and support him, if you choose. God knows that he is going to need somebody.

But if you do… Please make sure you are fully aware of what he has done, don’t just take his word on faith. Come to that conclusion fully armed with knowledge – not just feelings.

And finally, even if you are willing to support your friend, at this point you can’t defend him. Not these actions. Not these.

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By: Michelle https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1439750 Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:56:36 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1439750 @Yaten and @Promethius,
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I will not deride you for your loyalty to your friend. I will only request that you understand why there those in the community that are so upset by Mr. Atwood’s actions.
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To you, it may appear like simple flashing (like a silly frat boy running naked onto the field) but to many of us, his actions follow the highly predictable trajectory of a serial sexual criminal; it starts small and grows increasingly violent. Though you can’t imagine your friend becoming increasingly violent, there is documented proof that authorities think otherwise.
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I hope you both find a way to reconcile yourselves with the fact that a friend can and IS capable of such acts. You can still care for someone while concurrently acknowledging the disgusting nature of their actions.
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By the way, “terrorizing” might seem harsh to you but what Mr. Atwood did does strike terror in the minds of his victims.

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By: WS Neighbor https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1438625 Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:10:08 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1438625 I wonder if this is the same guy who was masturbating in front of those 11 & 10 year olds just last April or that dude who was only wearing a T-Shirt, naked from the waist down at Holy Rosary, Westside School and Hope Lutheran in September of last year. Some of the descriptions fit both his appearance and the vehicle. I hope the police are looking into it. I’d be curious to know if the incidents stop with Atwood in jail.

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By: Ms. Sparkles https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1438604 Mon, 04 Aug 2014 19:40:33 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1438604 Thank you WSB for the follow up and interjecting some facts into this very emotionally charged discussion.

I think Yaten and Prometheus are not seeing that some of these comments are in reaction to what Duane did in 2000; people are judging based on his ADMITTED past actions – which are horrifying. He has proven he is capable of heinous, potentially life ending, crimes.

Unless you’re saying Duane was “set-up” in 2000 and coerced into his plea deal, you lose credibility when you’re trying to sell him now as “a good person.”

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By: churchlady https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1438525 Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:01:04 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1438525 I’m sure I have seen this freak before in my area. Anyone know if he worked around westwood/white center?

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By: WestofJunction https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1438517 Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:47:01 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1438517 Prometheus, certain “men” are treated as criminals because they are. Because of “men” like this, women have to live their lives constantly looking over their shoulders, wondering if it is safe to walk down that street at that time of day, is the man walking behind her a potential threat? It does not just happen to the young and atttractive – look at the local news and there are plenty of elderly women who are victimized.

Throughout the world there are elements in all cultures that tacitly make women responsible for their own vicitimization while absolving men for responsibility over their own sexuality.

I am sorry this person was abused. I am, however not responsible for it. Neither were the victims. There are plently of people who have been abused, yet they do not take it out on innocent people. I hope that whoever abused him gets what they deserve, and I’d cheer – the way I and some others toasted Ted Bundy’s execution with a round of electric ice teas.

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By: WSB https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1438150 Mon, 04 Aug 2014 08:02:41 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1438150 In reply to Prometheus.

Many of the points you make in general regarding society and those dealing with mental illness, Mr./Ms. Prometheus, are true. We have written here before about that.
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Regarding this case and this defendant – please keep in mind that you also are making a judgment/assessment without all the facts.
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I don’t think anyone can have all the facts, even those of us whose business is uncovering and presenting facts. But having researched further in the days since these charges were filed, I have obtained the court documents in the 2000 case, documents and details of which were not available online. I filed a request for the case documents and for a total of $75, including an extra fee for expedited copying and delivery, got the paperwork in the mail from King County on Saturday.
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After reading the paper copies of various documents from the case file, I now know the summary of that case included in these new charging documents barely gets past the surface of what he pleaded guilty to doing – and was tied to via fingerprint evidence. (Fingerprint evidence also tied him to the harassing, threatening, obscene phone call afterward.)
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Aside from the aspects of the case that gave him the designation of sex offender – very graphic and elaborate, what he did before the fire – the key point, beyond that, is that he set a fire at the home of two people while they were asleep. According to the court documents, what he told investigators was “the fire was starting to get big, so he left.” LEFT. Did not, by any account, call 911 to report it. The documents point out that the fire could easily have become fatal. The residence was filled with smoke, the documents say. That can kill you even if flames never get close to you.
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Something else I wasn’t able to confirm until obtaining these documents: The 2000 crime happened in West Seattle, in the Admiral area, not far from where he lived and worked at the time. I have not yet found any archived evidence that media (citywide or neighborhood) covered it, which, as a veteran journalist, surprises me.
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And the documents confirm something we learned after our first report – there were two other cases pending against him preceding this in which prosecutors agreed not to file charges as part of the plea bargain preceding his guilty plea in this. I don’t have the specifics of those cases yet – they were mentioned only briefly on two pages of the dozens of pages we obtained, but those mentions included the SPD incident numbers, so the police reports should be available. – TR

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By: Prometheus https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1438133 Mon, 04 Aug 2014 07:31:20 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1438133 I, too, have the privilege of knowing both Yaten and Duane, though Duane and I only met twice.

On the surface, he seemed nice, like someone I would like, but on the inside, there was also a very harsh, abrasive side to him.

That said, I would not have his good name terrorized with comments about “rape culture,” and misogyny. Some of these claims come across as emotionally disturbed, and sexist themselves…

Duane, himself, seemed a friendly guy with a lot of turbulent emotional violence to work out, and as someone with mental health issues, also, I find myself in the position to state there is little to no help in society for the deranged and mentally ill.

It is a “fend-for-yourself,” type of system, where no one is cured, and everyone is blamed, then sensationalized in the mass media.

I would rather see Duane institutionalized than in jail, and though I am sorry for all those losses here, I feel even sorrier for those who judge others without even knowing them.

I will vouch for both Yaten and Duane being good people, though I could tell a lot was going on mentally with the latter, and, knowing Yaten personally, I would stand up for him with my life, and his son, if need be…

I cannot say what Duane has or hasn’t done, but knowing him briefly on a personal basis, the fellow seemed to need more mental health care than jailtime. However, my observations were that his loyalties were clear-cut when it came to his sincerity, his friends, and his commitments to others. Not the type to act out without a tragic reason.

As we all know, putting a violence person in a violent situation does not end tragedy, it perpetuates it… As in jail, prison, or worse. Jail creates more criminals than it condemns.

In fact, I think the cruelest and most unusual punishment may be to put a man in a cage, without remorse, for years, or to life.

Duane seemed very sincere, and a do-gooder, though with a lot of deep-seated emotional scarring.

I do not support his actions, but I do stand against those who speak without knowing, and cannot find it in my heart to support their “hate-speech” here on this forum, as they were not involved in the circumstances surrounding this affair, nor did any of them know Duane personally–even I cannot testify on his behalf. I can only state that it would do better to help the poor in judgment, than to put them in prison, thereby allowing the blind to lead the blind, and criminals to create more criminals.

I can relate to this, having come from an abusive home, and watching years flicker by with barely any help from the state for the emotional scars this wound left me with… and still no end in sight.

It is tragic we treat men as criminals, and would rather lock them up; judge them by their character without meeting them; and annotate their behavior behind closed doors; then hype it up in the mainstream media without actually meeting or helping them, showing someone who was treated heartlessly with an act of compassion, rather than adding trauma to those who, like Duane, are already post-traumatized. I am not here to judge the situation, but the amount of hate speech against a person on the basis of his actions, without actually meeting him, is intolerable, and inconsiderate of both the deed and whatever motivated him.

No amount of judgment is going to fix the mentally ill.

Only doctors can do that.

And in America, we have low-to-no access to medical care for the deranged, nor do we have help sometimes even from those in a clinical setting.

A magic pill cannot fix someone who has spent an entire lifetime being abused.

Nor can ten+ years of adulthood straighten out 20+ of a missing childhood.

Please note, this is only on two meetings, but I do not think our culture needs more judgmental people, as in those who go to wars over misdeed, but a more tolerant, gentler race of human beings who are kinder to those in need, and with or without mental issues, provide others with a helping hand.

After all, those who will not face their darkness will never find their light… :(

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By: UhOh https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1436998 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:39:23 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1436998 Denial is normal but he failed to register as a level 2 sex offender – that’s what people are reacting to and it’s a fact. And it’s a fact that concerns public safety, and obviously did end up effecting it. I’m sorry but your friend has issues that people don’t want to hear you defend, that’s just the way it is. It must be hard, but this isn’t the venue for any one of us to discuss his character outside the facts of this article which is public information and confirmed by police – that includes defending him. Because we don’t know him and it sounds like no one here including yaten really does when it comes to his current state.

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By: unknown https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1436828 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 02:24:20 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1436828 yaten24 how can you say there is nothing wrong with Duane?

He was convicted as a sexual predator whether it was a one time error he made or???he is still a convicted sexual predator and he was just caught masterbating in public!
You need to really open your eyes!!!

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By: Beachdrivegirl https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1436779 Sun, 03 Aug 2014 00:56:16 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1436779 Really yaten? Why in the world would someone make this up? He was seen masterbating in public. It wasn’t known at that time he was a sex offender. Speaking of which he is guilty of that too. I’d love for you it disassociate from this situation and reread this with an open mind and then come back and say we are over reacting.

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By: yaten24 https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1436553 Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:53:15 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1436553 To everyone on this blog who is so quick to bash Duane and myself for being someone and probably the only one in this area who will stick up for him. The only thing that has been proven about Duane is the issue he had 14 years ago. I am not defending that action. I am defending the man who he has become. He’s not someone who would consciously hurt women or children. I am sick about what is being said about him on here as well as the report. I can’t believe this and yet I almost have to. I’m struggling too. Let me go outside and piss on a bush then get arrested and get labeled a sex offended for relieving myself in a simi private yet still public location. Come on people. I understand being upset by this action because I’m a parent. I am also someone who grew up with the man. I have never seen any actions by him that cause me to believe that he was capable of this. This Salem Witch Hunt needs to stop. I for one am done posting on this subject and you all will have your opinions of me and of Duane and that’s fine. MY true friends know me and are being exactly what I need… Friends. not bashing jerks who don’t know the whole story.

@Guy THank you for saying something man.

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By: Community Member https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1435888 Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:25:39 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1435888 UhOh, instead of saying “no empathy,” why couldn’t we have a different kind of empathy that insists on, say, humane prison conditions? With decent medical care, mental health treatment, and humane conditions during incarceration? I want a safe community, and of course that often
necessitates incarceration of criminals, especially repeat criminals. It is better for everyone involved when criminals are caught and prosecuted, and some times people do need to go away for a very long time, for the safety of the community, so it’s a good thing that the witness was able to report the license plate and the police could identify and arrest the accused. But horrible as the crimes are, sad as it all is, is it really made better by figuratively burning someone in effigy in blog comments? Let the prosecutors and police do their work. Be glad when the incarcerated have friends on the outside.

WestSeaFoLia – but the accused WILL be defended – by a lawyer at least. It’s in the constitution.

Guy – I’ve chosen to use a pseudonym on many discussions because they aren’t topics that I necessarily would want to come up on a Google Search of my real name.

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By: UhOh https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1435510 Sat, 02 Aug 2014 00:16:03 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1435510 I agree that when crimes are as violent as the ones that he committed, it shouldn’t really matter what his mental state was. The state of mental health care in this country is absolutely pathetic – but that doesn’t mean that we need to have empathy for a person who would do these things. There’s a reason that it’s not a logical reaction to empathize – because this person is a threat and at a certain point you have to realize he’s better off away from other people whether he’s receiving treatment or not.

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By: Beachdrivegirl https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/west-seattle-crime-watch-flasher-suspect-duane-atwood-charged-re-jailed/#comment-1435271 Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:33:03 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=281044#comment-1435271 Big thank you to the woman who reported this guy to the police. You have made our community a safer place. I feel like anyone who would knowingly leave their kids with this guy honestly deserves a CPS visit. That is not responsible parenting.

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