Comments on: New look at Fauntleroy Way ‘Boulevard’ in-progress design https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/ West Seattle news, 24/7 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:28:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: WSB https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412433 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:28:06 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412433 For the record, a correction – we originally had written that this is now “more than halfway” through the design process – SDOT says it’s still in the “early stage” and they don’t expect to hit 60 percent design (aka “more than halfway”) until fall.

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By: WSB https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412232 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:37:05 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412232 In reply to West Seattle since 1979.

Re: WSS79’s first comment, something I’ve meant to say for a while … a note about what can be inferred/assumed/etc. from comments, and what can’t: Much as we appreciate them, even a very busy story comments-wise – say, 100 or more – is a third of one percent of the 30,000 people who will see the story over the course of several days. On national sites, the percentage is even tinier – millions reading, hundreds commenting. So please don’t ever, here on WSB or anywhere else, assume that comments are a precise reflection of sentiment for the wider population or even the entirety of the readership. Certainly they confer visibility for those who choose to have their voices heard, so if you don’t see your sentiment reflected, please consider taking a moment even to say something simple so that it is! And on the converse, if you feel strongly, please also use official comment channels to reach decisionmakers directly – and if there is a meeting or other event for which you can show up in person, that often speaks loudest of all – Tracy

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By: West Seattle since 1979 https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412228 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:32:43 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412228 Also, cars are *not* being ignored. West Seattle has been car-centric since probably at least the 1950s. Just in the last 10 or so years have there been bike lanes, bus lanes or other things for means of transportation other than SOV’s, and then there’s a huge outcry about a war on cars, or about cars being ignored.

This just is so frustrating. I have to walk past a drive-in Starbuck’s every morning–nearly every morning I have to wait for cars to drive in and out, or feel guilty if they stop for me because then I’m impeding traffic. Then I go past a fast food parking lot where I have to walk in the road because someone has parked their truck so that the back end hangs over the sidewalk, and there’s a tree in the median strip.

Most of the businesses other than in the junction have the parking lot in front so that cars can get in and out easily, and anyone who arrives on foot or who took the bus there or even a bike has to cut through the parking lot and dodge cars arriving and leaving.

I’m not saying this is wrong, as most people have cars. I just wish that people would stop saying there’s a war on cars or that cars are being ignored, because from what I can see almost everything is made for cars, and if you don’t have one or choose to use public transportation or walk, you have kind of a lousy pedestrian experience.

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By: West Seattle since 1979 https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412221 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:24:47 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412221 I’m not sure if that stretch of Fauntleroy will ever be really pedestrian-friendly. There are a lot of car-based businesses or businesses with parking lots directly in front of the buildings. I’ve noticed having to dodge cars coming in and out of the parking lots whenever I try to walk along there. Sometimes they even park on the sidewalk in front of one of the businesses. There’s really nothing that can be done about that–these are established businesses and we can’t ask them to move their parking lots!

Chris–I doubt very much we’ll get light rail over here until we densify, something that so many people seem to be opposed to if I can go by the comments on here. West Seattle isn’t very dense compared to, say, Capitol Hill or even Ballard. (They’re at least considering Ballard for light rail.)

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By: wetone https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412186 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:41:14 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412186 I would think they would park the big trucks on back side of TJ’s or midnight deliveries ? but that brings up a good point for all deliveries to businesses/apt in that area. What I also wonder is how about all the problems that will occur as vehicles try to get in/out of TJ’s parking lot area from Fauntleroy ? it’s a bad mess now in the afternoon/evening hours backing up traffic much of the time. Now add trees/shrubs, bike/walk path to cross, smaller traffic lanes. You have a few large properties in same area that recently sold and most likely to be built up soon and only have access from Fauntleroy adding to more traffic problems in this area. From what I’m seeing right now this is not a very well thought out project, but that’s from someone that needs to use that section of roadway a lot and doesn’t have all day to do so.

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By: WSB https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412161 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:22:25 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412161 In reply to Scott.

Scott – Regarding former Mayor Greg Nickels, he’s the one who created the Bicycle Master Plan, first introduced in 2007:
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2003651406_webbikeplan04m.html
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Regarding occupancy of vehicles – even if two people ride in a car, that still uses a lot less of its space than a one-person bicycle. And unlike cars and other four (or more)-wheeled vehicles – of which I wholeheartedly admit to being a fulltime user – a basic bicycle cannot go rolling down the road with an empty seat.
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But *please*, everyone with an interest, participate in the process. Despite the occasional skeptic/naysayer/”it doesn’t matter, they’ll do what they want,” there are many examples of community input making a difference/change in plans from road configuration to developments. – TR

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By: sam-c https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412104 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 17:18:58 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412104 Community Member- thanks for clarifying the point that I tried and failed to make.

The project proposed in this WSB post would take away TJ’s current loading area. I am curious to know what TJ plan to do for loading instead when this project moves forward.

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By: wetone https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412082 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:55:09 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412082 I would like to know how much the accident rates increase whether car,bike,pedestrian when you add a tree lined road such as this with increased visibility challenges ? Will there be added cross walks, bike crossings, stop lights, lighting for better visibility so drivers see pedestrians at night do to tree lined streets, decreased speed ? There is a lot going on in that area and many more buildings to be built soon. That roadway now is a challenge do to narrowness of lanes and makes future options for a transit system much more difficult in future. Looks pretty on paper but gets a big zero from me as far as helping any traffic issues we have in W/S and will only add to the ingress/egress problems we already have. Way to much money being spent on these types of projects right now. I want functionalbility especially when our city can’t maintain the infrastructure we have now do to it’s budget issues. I find it so interesting how our city has no problem spending so much money on design and builds of projects like this but can’t fund the basic things such as a good bus service and to maintain the parks and roads.

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By: rob https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412044 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:09:39 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412044 I don’t get it did i miss somthig here. Don’t remember a major public out cry for this project. Did the city all of a suden say hay lets go and dump a bunch of money on this. Did they stop an think maybe we can put this money into maintaining our parks or put it towards helping metro. The CC are like little kids ” I want new stuff I don.t want to fix the stuff we have first”

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By: heather https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412042 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:06:35 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412042 I happened upon the Sound Transit 2014 Long Range Plan Update meeting last week. I wasn’t able to stay but had time to speak with a rep and take the Executive Summary. I expressed my disappointment that the long range plan for WS does not include light rail. Apparently, the only reason WS was included was due to survey feedback.

We discussed alternatives such as a local “loop” route for WS (trolly?), privately funded options, etc. All planning for WS is focused on busses and only busses.

Feel free to send your comments to:
LongRangePlan@soundtransit.org and if you haven’t done so the survey:
http://www.soundtransit.org/LongRangePlan

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By: Scott https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1412016 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:41:56 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1412016 Last time I checked bikes are single occupancy and putting up an infrastructure is not going to benefit the City of Seattle and the majority of its people. The City of Seattle should be putting money into a rapid/mass transit infrastructure. This would benefit the majority of the people. We want Major Nickels back no more bike pushing people that have no vision for a better Seattle.

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By: Community Member https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1411476 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 05:36:23 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1411476 I think if West Seattle gets light rail it will probably have its own bridge, and would probably go east through South Park or Boulevard Park.

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By: Chris https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1411427 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 04:37:58 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1411427 Yes on mass transit infrastructure. Agree completely – too bad our friends and neighbors helped vote down the transit funding measure.

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By: Jw https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1411384 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 03:49:05 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1411384 The biggest issue I see is that it leaves no room for future expansion… Like a light rail line… Unless we want to do a re-do in 25 years if we actually ever get one. All the bike lane stuff in seattle seems very short sighted to me. Both city and state should be heavily investing in mass transit infrastructure.

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By: Chris https://westseattleblog.com/2014/07/see-what-fauntleroy-way-might-look-like-as-a-boulevard-through-the-triangle/#comment-1411340 Wed, 16 Jul 2014 02:52:50 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=279458#comment-1411340 Separated bike lanes slow traffic, increase pedestrian traffic, save lives, increase bike traffic, increase transit use, and grow the economy.

These are what we call: facts.

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