Comments on: West Seattle Crime Watch update: Pickup truck hit by bullet(s); police suspect it’s ‘related to ongoing gang activity’ https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/ West Seattle news, 24/7 Thu, 15 May 2014 04:27:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: DH https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1324311 Thu, 15 May 2014 04:27:36 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1324311 Thanks! I got the app. It seems a bit off in getting the address but definitely is speedier than the usual process. When coming back to this report I recognized that truck. I saw someone in the alley around 8400 Delridge doing some shady behavior. (The one with 10 instances of graffit I reported on the app) on 3 occasions. Looked like he was dealing drugs. Looks like I’ll be calling SPD a lot this summer.

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By: Friend of SPD https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1322764 Wed, 14 May 2014 06:11:26 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1322764 I just wanted to comment regarding SPD and the recent incident between 16th and Delridge area and shots fired… They responded immediately, and in numbers. As A homeowner I really appreciated the way they handled the incident. Officers took down all of the info and gave phone contacts in case of any further disturbances in our area. I am so thankful to know they are so close by and respond so quickly. Thank you thank you SPD!!

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By: drahcir61 https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1322209 Tue, 13 May 2014 22:16:58 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1322209 Good website with info on various gangs including typical markings, etc. Send them questions or provide updates to help keep their info current.

http://www.nwgangs.com

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By: Receiptsa https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320880 Tue, 13 May 2014 03:33:15 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320880 @bradley – it’s nice to see that we agree on quite a few things. I definitely hear your concerns.

@jumper – how does your brother serving on ACT excuse systematic abuses of power? Should we not hold agencies accountable? Any cop who abuses their power isn’t fit to hold their badge. When the abuse becomes systematic then there needs to be accountability and oversight. Or does the Constitution only apply to whomever you see fit? Because there was sufficient evidence to show that there was a department-wide infringement of the Constitutional rights of citizens. You seem to suggest that they were just scumbags or deserved what was coming to them – but doesn’t the Constitution apply to us all? Isn’t that what makes its power indelible and sacrosanct? Perhaps it is you who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

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By: jumper https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320665 Tue, 13 May 2014 00:26:02 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320665 Receiptsa: The SPD ACT (Anti-Crime Team) has been cut back due to the DOJ. The ACT gets out in front of crime before it happens. My brother served on it for 10 years.
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You have little or no idea what you are talking about.

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By: WSB https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320625 Mon, 12 May 2014 23:44:53 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320625 In reply to Eric.

Police are ASKED to do paperwork out in the community so that they are visible – in their car parked someplace INSTEAD of at the precinct. We have heard that from the past few precinct commanders. If you have a specific question to ask precinct leadership face to face about how they operate, why they do X or why they don’t do Y, a reminder, one week from tomorrow is your next excellent chance to do so, at the West Seattle Crime Prevention Council meeting, 7 pm, Tuesday, May 20th, at the precinct.

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By: Eric https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320617 Mon, 12 May 2014 23:41:52 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320617 I also live near Roxhill park and would like to see more consistent policing in that area. I would also like to see less congregations of police officers at coffee shops. I saw 4 cop cars hanging out at Cafe Ladro the other day, something I used to see at Starbucks all the time.

While I understand that cops need breaks. I don’t think that many should be taking breaks at the same time. That is 2 patrols if not 3 taken off the street at the same time. Considering that the claim that the police are already stretched thin, this just adds to it.

Briefings if needed to be done could be done in the briefing room before the patrol starts. Paperwork can also be done at the station.

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By: Eric https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320606 Mon, 12 May 2014 23:32:22 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320606 Bradley,

I have a friend that works with the police, but is not a police officer and he was telling me just last week about this. I really hadn’t been paying attention about the DOJ, but my friend said that in private the police officers that he is around are talking about what you described as “de-policing” due to the feeling of being under a microscope and a feeling of any move being the wrong move, so now police officers are playing it safe rather than sorry, especially the more veteran ones.

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By: Bradley https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320560 Mon, 12 May 2014 22:42:08 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320560 @Receiptsa: I’m glad you’re well-armed (nice choice of handgun, by the way) and not willing to let those who will do you/us harm prevail in your presence. My point was/is that the DOJ action is having the unintended consequences of causing many in the SPD to “de-police” our community to a degree. Police officers are human, have emotions, and have a union that has taken a stand against the DOJ. Frankly, I’m surprised at how well the department is doing under the circumstances, but it absolutely has taken a toll on morale and has endangered officers lives due to hampered decision-making during crisis situations. It has also emboldened many of our violent youth to commit higher levels of crimes in many cases as their fear of being prosecuted is muted somewhat by their not fully comprehending the DOJ/SPD situation. I, too, am concerned about the militarization of not just our police, but our alphabet government agencies. I don’t think our National Park Service, the IRS, and the Bureau of Land Management need SWAT teams and heavily-armored vehicles, for example. I live near Roxhill Park and I would like to see more frequent police patrols there instead of several units, a crime scene investigation truck, and a helicopter show up when all that is left are a few empty shell casings. I do appreciate your concern, however.

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By: Receiptsa https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320496 Mon, 12 May 2014 21:32:08 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320496 @bradley – my glock 19 g4 would serve me just fine in case of a home invasion. Just because I’m against an over-militarized police force, against excessive force, and for the constitutional protections that judicial oversight ostensibly enforces, doesn’t mean I’m against self-defense.

I suggest you brush up on the 14th amendment due process and equal protection clauses. No government of ours has the right to infringe upon those protections. Why would you advocate that the SPD need not follow the Constitution? I’m guessing from your comments that it stems from a misunderstanding of the rule of law and applicable jurisprudence and a general tendency to favor bias and emotion over logic and fact.

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By: Paul https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320389 Mon, 12 May 2014 19:22:57 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320389 I know I am a bit late to the commenting, but another great resource is the find-it fix-it app. You can submit a description, a photo and the gps coordinates. I routinely use this to report graffiti on the fences parallel to the community college on 16th.

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By: Bradley https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320374 Mon, 12 May 2014 19:02:35 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320374 @Receiptsa: if you loathe the SPD so much, maybe it would be a good idea for you to call the DOJ or ACLU when meth addicts are breaking into your house in the middle of the night instead of the SPD? Or, better yet, perhaps just do nothing and “give peace a chance”?

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By: BlairJ https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320361 Mon, 12 May 2014 18:40:54 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320361 As owner of a property that gets tagged from time to time, I implore residents and owners of other properties to make the tags disappear as soon as possible. Keep brushes and a consistent color of paint on hand to be able to paint over it as soon as you see it, and blend the new paint into the old so it is not obvious where the graffiti was. I find that starting out with a random texture makes it easier to blend the new paint in. Take a picture before painting in case SPD wants to see what you’ve painted over. It really does help if you stay on top of it. After several times of rapidly painting over it, they realize that tags won’t “stick” to that surface.

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By: BB https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320283 Mon, 12 May 2014 17:30:44 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320283 The city has an alternative to reporting graffiti if you don’t want to sit on the hotline. If you have a smartphone, download the “Find it, Fix it” app. You can capture a photo of the tag and the app will use GPS to get your location. It also allows you to add a description and provide more detail as to what is tagged and where.

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By: taking notes https://westseattleblog.com/2014/05/west-seattle-crime-watch-pickup-truck-hit-by-bullet/#comment-1320186 Mon, 12 May 2014 16:02:24 +0000 https://westseattleblog.com/?p=273009#comment-1320186 DH,

that might be something the neighborhood groups would handle? Highland Park Action Committee or Westwood’s Roxbury’s big neighborhood group? Or the SW Precinct Crime Council? Go to a meeting and suggest it. Better yet, just organize it yourself, that way you know it will get done.

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