Update: Police shoot 2 dogs in West Seattle, 1 killed

(UPDATED 8:43 PM with new information from police – scroll down)

We’re in the south Admiral District, where the call “shots fired” crackled across the scanner a short time ago, after police responded to a home in the 3400 block of 44th SW (map). WSB’s Christopher Boffoli has talked with police – the presence at the scene includes precinct commander Capt. Steve Paulsen. It appears to have been a call involving dogs and at least one dog has apparently been shot. No word of any people being injured. Police were talking to two people at the home, including a woman who was clearly distraught. We don’t know at this point what brought police to the house in the first place. This is breaking and we’re still working on details. SPD is sending a public-information officer to the scene. It’s the second time in less than 2 weeks that a dog has been shot in a call involving West Seattle police – the last one involved a pit bull in Fauntleroy on New Year’s Eve. We have not confirmed the breed of the shot dog but at least one of the dogs involved was described as a pitbull on scanner traffic that we heard.

2:57 PM: Yes, the helicopter is related to this incident – channel 7 chopper. Still awaiting police-briefing info.

3:03 PM: From Christopher Boffoli, one of two WSB newspeople at the briefing: Police got the call 1:17 pm as a domestic disturbance. When they arrived, they heard a woman screaming inside the house. The door was unlocked and police went inside. The dogs charged officer, according to Det. Jeff Kappel, who says one dog was killed, one injured. A woman was taken into custody, suspected of misdemeanor domestic assault. Second dog is being treated. No confirmation on breeds. We’ll add video of the briefing once it’s processed.

3:47 PM: A few more details: Police believe the man and woman at the house are brother and sister. She was determined to be the “primary aggressor” in the disturbance – though neither she nor her brother was hurt – and that made it a “mandatory arrest” in terms of the original call, Det. Kappel says; she is to be booked into jail. He said after the “two large dogs” charged officers, one officer shot both. (briefing video in its entirety, added)

4:33 PM: Christopher took photos of the dog that survived, before it was taken to a clinic, and has just processed them. An animal-control officer arrived, and the dog was walking as it was taken away. But because you can see blood on its leg – the only sign that it was injured – we are putting the photo after a jump:

8:43 PM UPDATE: Police now say the dogs were “on top of the woman” (the suspect) when they first entered the home. From their newly posted SPDBlotter update:

… Officers made entry into the home through the unlocked front door and saw two dogs on top of a woman (who turned out to be the suspect). The officers observed blood on the mouths of the two dogs and blood on the clothing and hands of the woman on the ground. The woman was able to stand up and break free of the dogs at which time the dogs began attacking each other. Shortly thereafter the dogs charged at the officers. One of the officers shot both dogs, killing one and injuring the other.

Officers were able to get an adult male and adult female (who were the involved parties of the domestic disturbance) out of the house. Further investigation indicated that the female suspect had assaulted the male, her brother. Both of them reside in the home. No weapons were involved in the assault. The 59-year-old male victim was not injured and required no medical attention.

The 55-year-old female suspect was placed under arrest and subsequently booked into the King County Jail for misdemeanor Domestic Violence Assault.

Animal Control took custody of both dogs. The injured dog was taken to a local animal hospital. Detectives responded to the scene and continue to actively investigate.

Christopher Boffoli got to the scene quickly after the initial shots-fired radio broadcast. He says the added detail about the woman and the dogs was not mentioned at the scene at all; he adds, while noting he was not close-up with her, he didn’t observe blood on the woman by the time she was cuffed. He has photos showing her face (which we won’t show until/unless she is charged) and this one from behind:

103 Replies to "Update: Police shoot 2 dogs in West Seattle, 1 killed"

  • RobertSeattle January 12, 2011 (2:25 pm)

    Is there a Taser equivalent for animals?

  • Andy January 12, 2011 (2:25 pm)

    Are there no rules governing journalistic integrity that prevent inciting comment riots by posting two pitbull stories this close together? HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

    • WSB January 12, 2011 (2:41 pm)

      sorry about that, Andy. But any time a police officer fires shots at anything or anyone, it’s news …
      Robert, I don’t know. I have heard of animals supposedly having been Taser’ed. And in this case we are awaiting the PIO in hopes of finding out more about what the original call was – we were driving in the area, scanner not on, when we heard the police sirens behind us, turned on the scanner, heard something about dogs, then “shots fired” and the dispatcher repeating the address …

  • Mike January 12, 2011 (2:30 pm)

  • Jeff January 12, 2011 (2:36 pm)

    When I lived in the CD the police entered my back yard several times looking for suspects. I had a large black, not aggressive but scary looking dog. I was told in no uncertain terms that if they entered my yard and they felt threatened by my dog they would shoot him; I put a lock on my gate after that.

  • Raye January 12, 2011 (2:41 pm)

    I hope that posting was Andy’s attempt at satire.

  • Jeff January 12, 2011 (2:45 pm)

    Shots fired is news as far as I’m concerned, dog, human or otherwise.

  • Peter January 12, 2011 (2:47 pm)

    As a recovering paperboy, I would suggest the police carry a rolled up newspaper secured with a green rubberband. Lethal weapon.

  • JoB January 12, 2011 (2:47 pm)

    i want to know a lot more than the breed of the dog

  • onceachef January 12, 2011 (2:47 pm)

    Unbelievable. I’ll wait for details but this is scary to hear…are all dogs at risk of being shot now (by the police)?

  • Zed January 12, 2011 (2:52 pm)

    There have been several instances when I have walked by that house (white) where their dog has been loose out in the front running away from the owner.

  • Traci January 12, 2011 (2:55 pm)

    onceachef, I highly doubt the police went to the home, guns drawn, ready to shoot at the dogs. There is certainly more to this story.

    • WSB January 12, 2011 (3:01 pm)

      Sorry to not have more details sooner but once they send a public-information officer, no one on the scene comments – not even a Captain – until that person is briefed and ready to present the official account. And yes, if you haven’t seen our notation on the story, that’s why a chopper is circling – TV.

      Some details now added to story. More to come including video.

  • Gina January 12, 2011 (3:05 pm)

    I believe we will be hearing more about this story later–I don’t think police were randomly shooting at dogs.

  • Doggie Mama January 12, 2011 (3:19 pm)

    So many reasons why this is a blog and not the New York Times. While it’s nice to have up to date information about events in our neighborhood (good and bad), it is sometimes best to allow stories to play out a bit more before sharing with the community. I am certain there are aspects of this story that are still being investigated and discovered. Breaking news is subject to misinformation or missing information…it’s our job as readers to remember this and be objective while reading.

  • Dave January 12, 2011 (3:26 pm)

    Yeah, that’s just silly to claim that SPD is arbitrarily just shooting dogs.
    A cop shows up at an emergency call of some sort, they don’t know who’s in a house or what’s happening, or whether their lives might be in danger.

    In this case, what, a woman was screaming inside?
    And, upon entering, two pits run towards them?
    Sorry- the likelihood is, I might have shot, too, and I’m a dog-owner.

    If you’re entering a dog’s territory during a crisis situation, and the dog may be agitated, you run the risk of being attacked and that cop’s duty is to protect the lives of the people in trouble.

    I’d hate for my dog to be hurt and I’d probably be bitter if it happened in a manner that I thought inappropriate.

    But, those of you who are assigning some malevolence on the part of the police are being reactionary and unrealistic.

  • visitor January 12, 2011 (3:32 pm)

    hmmmmmm……wonder what breed of dog it is? three guesses…..

  • SJ2 January 12, 2011 (3:38 pm)

    @visitor. I only have 1 guess.
    If a dog is lunging at/attacking an officer and preventing them from responding to the domestic violence situation, I can understand why they’d shoot it.

  • JoB January 12, 2011 (3:42 pm)


    silly me.. but i am guessing if the dogs charging the officers after they entered the house without the owner’s permission had been terriers..
    there would have been no shooting.

    so yes.. breed does matter.
    attitudes like yours about any dog vaguely resembling a pitbull
    puts the dogs at greater risk.

  • st January 12, 2011 (3:42 pm)

    I just drove by there not knowing anything about this. There was an animal control vehicle leaving and 2 police cars parked. I had no idea what had happened till now.

  • Faith January 12, 2011 (3:43 pm)

    Obviously, the breed is irrelevant here since any dog can do harm if it is in fact aggressive. However, with numerous police shootings of dogs all across the country, then this definitely needs to be investigated. Was the shooting of this dog really justified? It would appear that police officers need some more education in handling/restraining off-leash dogs who may appear threatening. (I wonder if the police will come to Ravenna and help me when I am harassed by menacing dogs – of all breeds – intentionally allowed to play off leash in on-leash parks).

    All that said, I am surprised there is not more focus on the initial reason for the call-out, which was for a domestic violence situation.

    • WSB January 12, 2011 (3:53 pm)

      Faith, I have added more details, and we’ll put up the full PIO-briefing clip as soon as it finishes processing. No one was hurt in the domestic-violence call, police say, so what is unusual about this and the reason it is newsworthy is the fact that two dogs were shot. In addition, as I wrote above, it is the second police-shooting-dog(s) incident in our area in less than two weeks, and I can’t remember the previous time that happened. So that’s why the story is focused on that angle instead of something that, while it may result in criminal charges, sadly would not necessarily be a news story in most circumstances …
      And to earlier commenter “Doggie Mama.” I completely disagree that there would be merit in “waiting to share.” For one, the New York Times does breaking news. It is not “blog” province. I and the people working with me today are journalists just the same as the NY Times or Seattle Times or the citywide media (including the two TV stations with which I have worked) who showed up for the story as well. A neighborhood within a stone’s throw of two schools was suddenly full of police officers, and we received multiple texts, e-mails, phone calls asking what was going on. It is our job to let you know what we have found out about what is going on. Nothing that we initially reported has turned out to be wrong, at least as reported by police in their briefing. In fact, since I’ve been doing this for 30-plus years, I was very careful in the initial report to separate “shots fired” and “police” till we knew for sure that they confirmed officers were the ones who fired the shots. – TR

  • rdf January 12, 2011 (3:43 pm)

    I would worry about my dog. He jumps at people but only because he wants to lick them. We’ve taken him to obedience school but when he sees new people he gets excited. An officer isn’t going to be able to determine if he’s attacking or coming to see him in the heat of the moment.

  • DRG January 12, 2011 (3:47 pm)

    Difficult situation. The officers entered the home, so the dogs were just defending their property. A dog can’t tell a police officer from any other intruder. At the same time, the officers are just doing their job and need to enter the home to respond to the call.

  • Dogmom January 12, 2011 (3:55 pm)

    This has to STOP. The police need proper training in animal behavior.

    Try this and see how many of you can find the Pitbull on the first try


    From the site: For many people, a Pit Bull is a a big headed dog, or a dog with cropped ears. For some it’s a brindle dog, a big, stocky dog, or one with an eye patch.

    Quite often dogs that attack are identified as pit bulls when they are not. There are 20+ breeds that are commonly incorrectly identified as pit bulls.

  • yeah-me January 12, 2011 (3:57 pm)

    Oh JoB… *sigh*

  • Traci January 12, 2011 (4:06 pm)

    Dogmom, that’s an interesting link. Thanks!

  • thee January 12, 2011 (4:06 pm)

    Has anyone stopped to consider that maybe we just have a crop of really, really bad doggies here in West Seattle? Somebody get Caesar Milan on the phone, stat!

  • Jiggers January 12, 2011 (4:11 pm)

    This case is closed and shut. The woman will be charged. The dogs inside the house were already aggravated by the chaos. Finally, a woman being charged for domestic abuse. My friend awhile back got arrested after getting hit in the face by his girlfreind with the frying pan and she lied to the polce that she was hit when she wasn’t. :(

  • Jack Loblaw January 12, 2011 (4:13 pm)

    Pepper spray has always stopped dogs that have tried to attack us while walking our dogs – I believe that the police carry something similar

  • Eliza January 12, 2011 (4:14 pm)

    Interesting link, I guessed wrong, yet the real one is the smallest little pit bull known to man, and is the mini version… tea cup pit bull, the ankle bitting version…

  • MB January 12, 2011 (4:16 pm)

    In my opinion, based on what we have heard so far, (whatever the breed) the dogs did their job when an intruder entered their home (doesn’t matter if it was a cop, to them it was an intruder)…also sounds (so far) like the cops did their job as well (911 call, screaming woman, of course the cops burst in). This sounds like an unfortunate ending to an unfortunate situation. I’m sure the cop isn’t thrilled about killing the dog, don’t know too many sane people that would be. I know domestic disputes happen and we don’t know the details yet, but if I were the owner of the dogs, id feel horrible for putting them in a position where this could even happen.

    Also, I’m glad for every breaking news story I see here…full story or not, most of us want to know whatever we can find out about why there are cops lining a street…

  • Suzanne January 12, 2011 (4:17 pm)

    Since when is pubic and personal safety NOT the job of the police – perhaps the next time you or a loved one is being lunged at by a dog or a criminal or you are in danger due to a domestic dispute you should stop and try to reason with the aggressor and not bother the police, save their time for those of us who appreciate their service.

  • Doggie Mama January 12, 2011 (4:18 pm)

    I am not discrediting your journalistic integrity nor am I asking that you not report up to the minute happenings. I am merely reminding readers that “breaking news” is not always the most accurate or informative way to gather facts about a situation being reported. In this case, there is much breed speculation and at this point we have nothing more than your report to go on; which currently has no mention as to what type of dogs were involved. I am not saying you, as a Blog are reporting irresponsibly, but I think we, as readers, need to be mindful of how we react to the massive amounts of media available at our finger tips. Gathering facts before forming opinions has always been my method of research. Nothing more or less.

  • Cclarue January 12, 2011 (4:20 pm)

    If the owner cant contain the dog because help arrived shame on the owner. If someone is coming to help me I’m sure as hell not going to let my 170 lb dog charge him or her. Put the dogs in a bedroom and close the door or put them on a leash, hold their collar, do something. I can speak from experience I had eight armed officers at my house for a domestic disturbance and held my dog by his collar while he barked at the uniformed men, so it could have been avoided had the owners controlled their dogs. ( yes that incident qualified that individual to become my ex:) and no one was hurt but hedid get taken to jail as a result of the disturbance. As in all dv calls one has to go.

  • KBear January 12, 2011 (4:21 pm)

    Dogmom, the police don’t need training in breed identification to tell whether a dog is charging at them. When they’re responding to a domestic violence call, they hear someone screaming, and two dogs come charging at them, their job is to protect the people. They don’t have time to reason with the dogs. Those dogs needed to be put out of the picture as quickly as possible. It’s very sad, but they did what they had to do.

  • t January 12, 2011 (4:34 pm)

    This insident happened in my neighborhood. The first thing I did was to go to the WSB to find out what was going on. Knowing you didn’t have the complete story at this time, but what you had reported was accurate.

  • ca January 12, 2011 (4:34 pm)

    I think there are other ways to protect themselves (police) when dogs charge. my god they are protecting their home!! Taser/pepper spray, this is beginning to happen to often. It is making me sick police are so careless, and currently sick to be in WS resident with this crap happening. I understand women screaming etc, but when cops heard dogs barking they shoulda been ready…NOT WITH GUN…NO MATTER THE BREED.

  • Dogmom January 12, 2011 (4:37 pm)

    KBear-If you read my post, I’m not saying the police need training on breed ID. I just put the link in there for everyone else who discriminates against the breed.
    I am saying they need training on dog behavior. Working with dogs of all shapes, sizes and backgrounds everyday all it takes is a little knowledge about behavior to avoid these situations. And there are less leathal ways to stop a dog.

  • yeah-me January 12, 2011 (4:38 pm)

    It looks like a Boxer in the photograph.

  • GenHillOne January 12, 2011 (4:40 pm)

    “Oh noes(?!) – no playable files in the feed” – video

    • WSB January 12, 2011 (4:45 pm)

      That is weird. Somebody else had the same problem. But it plays fine for me and there’s no “you’re the editor” reason why. I’ll start an upload to YouTube and replace it when that’s done, just in case it IS an “everybody but me” problem … TR

  • SJ2 January 12, 2011 (4:47 pm)

    I had the problem too, but it is now fixed, thanks.

  • admiralite January 12, 2011 (4:54 pm)

    I’d say the dogs should have been contained. Or perhaps the police should have asked for them to contain the dogs before entering. At least given them a chance…

  • maude January 12, 2011 (5:02 pm)

    Some dogs don’t care for uniforms. Or could be they considered the officers intruders. Tough call. But I’d be pretty upset if someone came into my yard or house and shot my dogs.

  • Boxer Mix? January 12, 2011 (5:04 pm)

    Yes, looks like a boxer to me also, but is probably a boxer mix of some sort as it doesn’t look pure bread. I have to agree that the police did the right thing here. If you get a call for a domestic disturbance you are trying to stop violence or possible murder. If a dog then stops you from doing this, then it needs to be put down.

  • Baba January 12, 2011 (5:12 pm)

    I can already see the new and improved SPD responding officers mandatory ammo/tool kit becoming law soon: Dog taser, cat pepper spray, bird and reptile immobilizer…
    And only after dealing with all the pet threats in the most humane way possible can officers proceed to help human victims.LOL!

  • bdj January 12, 2011 (5:17 pm)

    I’m thankful for the hard working people of the WSB we are fortunate they keep us so well informed.

    This whole incident was unfortunate for both the people involved and the dogs.

    There are lots of things to learn… try to get along so there isn’t a police call in the first place. If you are in a situation that puts you in potential harm try and change it.

    Try to restrain your dogs (any kind of dog) if you have to call for help. The dogs seem to have been trying to protect their home and or owners.

    The police had to deal with the the call. Do you really think they set out to shoot the dogs? I doubt it. It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and say they should have done something different…We weren’t there, we have no right to pass judgement on what they did (or didn’r do). How many of us would have even tried to help- Report os some type of violence, screaming woman, barking dogs? Come on. Give them a break.

    Thnaks WSB most of us appreciate ALL your efforts. IMHO you guys rock!

  • cherylc January 12, 2011 (5:18 pm)

    I agree, it looks like a boxer. Hard to tell of course, but it doesn’t look like a pit bull to me.

  • GenHillOne January 12, 2011 (5:19 pm)

    thanks, video fixed (the “oh noes” text was an unfortunate cheezburger similarity for this story)

    I’ll be curious to hear if the officers felt the residents were in eminent danger, requiring them to enter immediately. If not, I agree with admiralite that they should have given them a chance..containment, pepper spray, or could have been as simple as shutting the door.

  • Visitor January 12, 2011 (5:20 pm)

    If I was a officer entering a house under authority and two pit bulls came at me, I’d shoot them too.
    I’ve never heard of a cop shooting dogs arbitrarily.

  • visitor January 12, 2011 (5:20 pm)

    It’s question, not an “attitude.” Attitudes are by those who make assumptions.

  • hopey January 12, 2011 (5:32 pm)

    Using pepper spray on a dog who is already aggressive and charging (not one making an unwanted but fairly friendly advance) would most likely make things worse, not better.

    This is in my neighborhood. It makes me sick to think that if an officer had good reason to enter my house without my advance knowledge, and my super-friendly people-loving dogs approached the officer, they might get shot. Granted, my dogs are not a “bully breed” (i.e. dogs with physical attributes which cause them to be stereotyped as aggressive dogs, even though they may not be) but my dogs are still 60 lb dogs. Due to incidents like this, I can no longer count on the police to use good judgment about my dogs in an emergency situation. That makes me sad.

  • jedifarfy January 12, 2011 (5:44 pm)

    I’m guessing people here have not heard of a dog used as a weapon against someone. How is the officer supposed to know the dog WON’T bite him, attack him, harm others? How is he supposed to help the humans he’s been sent to help when he’s being attacked by dogs? Poor dog ownership led to this. I feel bad for the dogs who didn’t know better, but I don’t blame the police officer. It’s the careless owners who did not train them to NOT attack people.

  • anmllvr January 12, 2011 (5:45 pm)

    I drove past this incident today as I always do on my way home from work. Last week, there happened to be a dog running loose (not from this house). When I tried to rescue the dog there was a guy walking down the sidewalk pointing to the house in the incident telling me, ” go there, their dogs are always out and on the loose”. My guess is the dogs are far less capable of harm then those crazy people living in that house. Domestic disturbances will upset any living, breathing creature. So sad – too bad the dog got shot.

  • NotMe January 12, 2011 (6:31 pm)

    The dogs, like the police, were just doing their jobs.
    The police had to go in since they were hearing screams. I have been a big critic of the recent police shootings as much as the next guy, but this is just simply unfortunate. I am sure their guns were drawn, and they were ready for anything. It’s a shame that two poor dogs had to pay a price – one the ultimate price – for doing his job to protect his house and his fighting owners.
    I hope the officers are able to quickly recover. I am pretty sure they aren’t happy with what has happened and can imagine they are pretty shaken up over killing an animal doing his job.

  • homesweethome January 12, 2011 (6:42 pm)

    Only in Seattle would dogs be more important than domestic violence.

  • datamuse January 12, 2011 (6:42 pm)

    Doggie Mama: you mean like how NPR reported that Rep. Giffords was dead when she wasn’t? That kind of waiting to share?

  • visitor January 12, 2011 (7:22 pm)

    homesweethome: YES. ridiculous.

  • T January 12, 2011 (7:56 pm)

    This website is successful because of how it reports. Please continue to keep us up to date and make corrections when they are available. You do a great job and I know our household goes here before it goes to local T.V. for what’s happening right now.

    –Regarding the officer/dog: the accountability goes to the owner. I’ve known lots of dog owners with perfectly unshot dogs. The most capable person to have controlled the situation was the dog owner. If you’re not sure that you can control your dog in all situations, perhaps a lapdog is more appropriate choice. Caution is underrated. Very few pugs are being reported shot. Please report if it does happen, even if it turns out to be a rat terrier and not a pug.

  • KCH January 12, 2011 (7:57 pm)

    Curious why pepper spray (in place of bullets) is not used as standard procedure for situations like these where dogs are involved – especially when they are on their own property. It works on beers ;). Anyone have any ideas?

  • mitch January 12, 2011 (7:58 pm)

    homesweethome – exactly. It’s weird.

    “I hope the officers are able to quickly recover” (right above your comment) is my favorite. Like the cops are going to get all weepy over shooting a pit-bull as it was just about to rip their throats out. Sounds like time for a beer to me.

  • GenHillOne January 12, 2011 (7:59 pm)

    Yes, visitor, it WOULD be ridiculous if that were true, but I really don’t think anyone is saying that.

  • here January 12, 2011 (8:16 pm)

    If people would restrain their pets, and their own behaviour, incidents like this would not happen. If you cannot get along with the people you live with, LEAVE, and stop endangering other peoples lives.

  • hopey January 12, 2011 (8:34 pm)

    The Seattle Times has much more detailed information. It says, in part:

    Police found the two dogs on top of the woman when they came in the unlocked front door. The dogs’ mouths and the woman’s hands and clothing were bloody.


    • WSB January 12, 2011 (8:49 pm)

      Hopey, that is directly taken from the SPDBlotter, which I just added to the story. Police posted it within the past hour, and it’s a change from what they said at the scene (as you can compare since we published video of their entire briefing) … TR

  • Alki Resident January 12, 2011 (8:38 pm)

    @KCH,when’s the last time you pepper sprayed your beer and why?Just curious.

  • WSB January 12, 2011 (8:43 pm)

    Police have added more detail tonight. Adding the link above. – TR

  • NotMe January 12, 2011 (8:45 pm)

    Sooner or later, Mitch, you are going to figure out that there are some interesting people that live amongst us here in good ole West Seattle. Some of us are just trying to poke a little fun, even though I was mean. GenHill got it, and he and I don’t usually agree on things based on what I have read in his comments from the past.

  • MB January 12, 2011 (8:57 pm)

    Ok, did I miss something…a number of you keep referring to the dogs in this incident as pit bulls, but from what I read that hasn’t been confirmed or even insinuated by the blog or the police. The picture doesn’t look like a pit to me, though I could be wrong. You guys have insider info or are you just assuming?

  • me on 28th Ave SW January 12, 2011 (8:57 pm)

    Well, that additional information certainly puts a different spin on the situation.

    • WSB January 12, 2011 (9:00 pm)

      Also, after reading what was added in SPDBlotter, Christopher sent additional photos he’d taken of the woman being cuffed. (She had been placed in a police car at first, then was brought back out to be cuffed.) Some time had elapsed, so perhaps she had been cleaned up, but there was no blood visible on her face, nor from behind (which is the angle of the photo I have added). – TR
      P.S. to MB: I mentioned somewhere in the discussion – we wind up discussing any breaking story in 3 channels, Facebook and Twitter as well as here – that police described at least one dog as a “pit bull” on the scanner during this incident. But Det. Kappel said in the briefing, as you can hear in our unedited video, that he had no information on the breeds. We will be following up again tomorrow, of course.

  • cjboffoli January 12, 2011 (9:01 pm)

    GenHillOne: Still, it is pretty remarkable that animal shelters in the US outnumber domestic violence shelters by a factor of 3 to 1 or better.

  • JN January 12, 2011 (9:06 pm)

    As a runner who has been chased by off-leash dogs, had my ankles snapped at, and been cornered for 15 MINUTES by a pit bull who had gotten out of its yard (and yes, it was a pit bull, I confirmed that with its careless owner), I do not care whatsoever that the dog was “protecting its territory”. If one more dog rushes me, I’m going to punt that sucker as far as I can!!

  • Paul January 12, 2011 (9:22 pm)

    can’t we all just get along

  • MB January 12, 2011 (9:37 pm)

    WSB, thanks for answering that question…and thanks for the quick edit! I don’t really care if people know my name, I just kinda wanna decide when ;)

  • Leroniusmonkfish January 12, 2011 (9:48 pm)

    A version of “Tent City” for dogs?

  • CJ January 12, 2011 (11:02 pm)

    To those posting careless comments about pit bulls: stop the mania and learn about them. Any animal can be taught to be aggressive-other popular breeds have been doberman pinschers, german shepards, and rottweilers but we seem to have a short memory. It is nurture, not nature that turns an animal into a danger. To Insider who doesn’t doesn’t know of a dog being shot by police arbitrarily-just because you are unaware doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened-it has. Just recently in Des Moines a Newfoundland was killed because the police officers didn’t want to deal with it as is shown on their own cruiser video. The dog was no danger to them, just an inconvenience. Similar killings have happened numerous times around the country. If you think your friendly but excited golden retriever is in no danger of being shot by police, you haven’t been paying attention. Regardless of intent, police are not trained in how to deal with a dog whether overly friendly or aggressive so they resort to maximum force. I echo others in saying a dog cannot distinguish an officer from an intruder. In that same vein, for those who have been attacked by a dog, since the dog cannot verbalize his concerns with you, it does all it can-run, bark, or bite. They don’t do it to piss you off, they are scared or being protective. Have some understanding of their situation and carry pepper spray.

  • admiralite January 12, 2011 (11:42 pm)

    I’m a total dog lover but hate “fighting breed” dogs. Until you realize exactly how the ‘prey drive’ is manipulated through selective breeding, you will never realize what sets “bully dogs” apart from your average tamed dog. Sorry pitbull owners. I know you love your babies that want to “lick you to death.” But if your dog ever flipped or turned on you, it would be much more difficult to get the dog off of you and make it quit attacking because their pain threshold is so high.

    Seriously watch this video!!!!


  • admiralite January 12, 2011 (11:47 pm)

    and this one


  • admiralite January 12, 2011 (11:55 pm)

    one last one.


  • KBear January 12, 2011 (11:56 pm)

    CJ, what does any of that have to do with this situation? The dogs were shot because they had been attacking the woman and each other, and they charged at the officers. This has no relationship whatsoever to the case in Des Moines, nor is it a case of breed discrimination. When the police are called out to help a human who is in distress, dogs are a much lower priority. As it should be.

  • visitor January 13, 2011 (12:08 am)

    I love it when the dog apologists come out. IT’s so……predictable.

  • ca January 13, 2011 (12:42 am)

    AMEN CJ, and to everyone who is fighting about everything…no one is saying dogs vs. human better then the other…sounds like to me everyone saying the whole situation overall is crappy and not handled well all the way around. Also, I doubt the dogs were attacking the owners “all of a sudden” that was the case. Media..edited it up for ya aka news channel. WSB your breaking news on ANYTHING is awesome, and keep rocking it. You are always first on weather, businesses, community, crimal stuff. THANK GOODNESS FOR YOU GUYS AND YOUR WORK!!! Hopefully all the people at fault well be handled correctly in this particular case.

  • cj January 13, 2011 (3:54 am)

    There is just a lot of missing info. Ok so the woman was on the ground with dogs on her but she was he aggressor? A dog had blood on his mouth but no one was wounded?

    This just isn’t adding up. Who’s house was it?

  • AG January 13, 2011 (8:52 am)

    To all the geniuses out there who are assuming the dogs to be pits, THEY ARE NOT PIT BULLS. That’s a boxer in the picture.

    Crappy situation for everyone. DV, dogs defending their home against what they would perceive as an intruder, and police having to shoot.

    But THEY ARE NOT PIT BULLS. That’s a fact.

  • Wednesday January 13, 2011 (9:08 am)

    What’s more threatening, charging dogs protecting their territory or an old homeless man with a three inch knife minding his own business? Panic was the only fatal decision in both cases here, because sound judgement was obviously missing. How’s about getting some net guns for our police to use when they KNOW they have a situation involving animals (or old men with knives, as it were..oh, but that might take longer than 4 seconds.. or maybe they could’ve even shot him with a fire hose)… ooo, maybe our cops should start carrying shields!

  • sophista-tiki January 13, 2011 (10:20 am)

    so why is it now the norm for the cops to shoot dogs. Seems like the story about “dog shot by police” is getting more frequent. UNACCEPTIBLE where do we protest this . Even a grade schooler is capable of handling a dog with out just shooting it. This reeks of “shoot first ask questions later”. If you dont think were in a police state now just wait!

  • chris January 13, 2011 (10:40 am)

    I am guessing when the police arrive at a house and hear people screaming and aggressive dog barking that they have guns drawn or hands on their guns so they are ready for whatever they walk into. I really don’t think they are going over in their heads “which do I use, pepper spray or gun?” Would you want that going on outside if you were the one being attacked? I don’t have police training but I would love to hear from someone who does on this situation.

  • KBear January 13, 2011 (10:43 am)

    The armchair police work on this thread is pathetic. Hopefully when you second-guessers need police protection, SPD won’t send a team of equivocating weenies armed with dog biscuits and chew toys. When officers have to break up a dog fight and the dogs charge them, it’s completely understandable that the dogs would be shot. It’s a sad situation all around, but the cops did their job.

  • 3dogslater January 13, 2011 (11:07 am)

    Blood on dogs mouth? Justified the shooting?
    Where did the blood on the dogs mouth come from if neither parties where injured?
    Something doesnt add up..was the blood on the dogs mouth said .. to justify the shooting ?
    There wasnt any harm to either person…what is the real story? If the 2 people were fighting …why shoot the dogs come on…really? They provoked aggression and now the dogs pay the price. I wonder if there will be an investigtion and the cop will be put on administrative leave ? Oh but wait..its just a dog..

  • doggydodo January 13, 2011 (11:41 am)

    I would rather be charged at by a terrier than a larger breed any day. A lab can cause a lot of damage too. If the dogs were fighting, there could be blood from that. When cops go to a DV call, it is one of the most dangerous types of calls – read “lethal” then add fighting dogs to the mix, you have lots of tension and little time to make judgment calls, you just do what you have to do. I blame the fighting humans who were acting criminally (domestic violence in the home) blame them for the death of the dog. I feel badly for the dogs, sounds like they have a history of running away, I wonder why? Perhaps they too were abused at home? I pose this question to bully breed owners… would you rather swim in a tank with guppys or sharks? Both are fish and in their own element, neither are aggressive inherently. Which would you rather provoke?

    • WSB January 13, 2011 (11:57 am)

      New information from the Seattle Animal Shelter – it’ll be a few minutes before I write this up as a separate story. Among the new information … the breeds, as deduced by SAS and matching what their licenses show. I quote SAS in our e-mail exchange: “DOA dog = Lab. Injured dog = Bulldog mix. These match the licenses we have on file.”

  • KCH January 13, 2011 (11:56 am)

    @Alki Resident: typo ;) (bears).

  • JoB January 13, 2011 (1:16 pm)

    admiralite and visitor…

    the dog that was killed was a lovable lab…
    did you know that labs are the single largest source of dog bites?
    of course they are also the most popular breed

    don’t you feel a just little silly using the occasion of this really unfortunate occasion to perpetrate your personal prejudices?

  • Tracy White January 13, 2011 (3:30 pm)

    To those who said the people inside the house should have controlled the dogs or shut them in another room; how many of you were there in that house at that time and know for a fact that the situation even allowed the possibility of someone performing such an action?

    If someone is coming at you with a frying pan are you going to say “wait a sec, hon, I need to put the dogs away first.”

    It’s just a bad situation all around, and really the breed of the dog shouldn’t be an issue. Some times an event defies finger-pointing.

  • justme January 13, 2011 (4:09 pm)

    I live right on this street. From direct experience with these neighbors and with these poor dogs they were neglected and abused. They were never held in their yard like they were suppose to be either. I believe this is a case of depressed unhappy animals finally having their say. Poor things. Abusive alcoholics shouldn’t even own dogs. They make terrible pet owners.

  • visitor January 13, 2011 (4:37 pm)

    JoB:: no, I don’t feel silly at all. No personal prejudices involved, hon.

  • Jessica January 13, 2011 (4:59 pm)

    Buster (MY DOG PICTURED) is a boxer/beagle. Not a pitbull. So please stop saying he is one.
    Buster is the nicest dog I’ve ever had and I’m disgusted by your comments. My mom treated those dogs good. They are young and hyper so I don’t get why they aren’t allowed to play/bark. Everyone that has ever met these dogs know that they are harmless. People need to stop judging. You guys have no idea.

  • Sara January 13, 2011 (5:36 pm)

    Hearing this destroyed my day. I am a very close friend of the owners daughter and I can ASSURE these dogs are NOTHING like most of you are saying. I’m very angry because I loved these dogs with all my heart and there was NO reason to shoot them, I know their behavior. I’m going to adopt Buster the soonest I can. This story is completely twisted and inaccuate. Many family members and friends would agree.

  • Lol January 13, 2011 (7:28 pm)

    Don’t mean to be insensitive about this story but I am just cracking up at the armchair Sherlock Holmes going on here. LOL!

    And very confused. Sheeesh!

  • K January 14, 2011 (12:07 pm)

    ive met your dogs and i disagree. they are not harmless.

  • BevearedDogowner January 15, 2011 (3:55 pm)

    Keep comments to yourself. I love my dogs and I call them my sons. If you don’t know that happened and you don’t know the truth, then keep your mouth shut please. If you’re really that curious, then come knock on my door. I did not neglect them nor abuse them.

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