Followup: The Swinery’s co-owner tells his side of the story

Friday afternoon, we updated the news about the sudden departure of Swinery founder Gabriel Claycamp, after Christopher Boffoli talked with him. Subsequently, Christopher interviewed the man who’d been Claycamp’s partner – James Dillon. For those following the Swinery saga, here’s what he has to say.

Story and photo by Christopher Boffoli
Reporting for West Seattle Blog

James Dillon, The Swinery‘s “angel investor,” says that, since its founder Gabriel Claycamp announced his departure, he has stepped in “to ensure the success of the Swinery’s mission of continuing to provide high-quality, sustainably sourced products to the community.”

Dillon says right off the top that, for customers, nothing about the business will change. The Swinery is NOT closing (as is reiterated in a message today on one of its websites). Claycamp has indeed left and he says he has complete confidence in the capabilities of the staff they have in place. Their product lines and hours will remain the same.

Claycamp echoed some of Dillon’s sentiments earlier when he said that Swinery staff Joey, Garrett, and Amie are “very capable and ready to step up.” Dillon told me that he could foresee them becoming partners in the business.

Dillon identifies himself as a foodie from a family with many generation of serious food lovers. His background is not in the food business at all, but instead, as a commercial developer. He founded Dillon Design and Construction, which has revitalized and repurposed numerous commercial buildings in SODO (here’s an article about some of his work).

Dillon told me that he met Claycamp years ago when he was a student at the Culinary Communion. Upon reflection, he says now that he did not know the extent of Claycamp’s troubles when he decided to go into business with him. “He brought with him his entire debt package. He did not disclose the full extent of his debt and it has been devastating to the business. Every time someone comes in the door and says ‘Gabriel Claycamp owes me and I want some of it.’ Gabriel felt he had to give them something,” says Dillon. He says that in just under a year since the Swinery opened, his investment in the butcher shop has “wiped out the profits of about four other businesses of mine.”

“I did not think that Gabriel would mismanage an opportunity,” he says, “I expected that he had learned enough from his prior experiences.”

Dillon scoffed at Claycamp’s assertions that he had to leave simply to be able to support his family, recounting the hundreds of thousands of dollars he poured into the Swinery. Dillon also claims to have taken on the burdens of Claycamp’s significant Culinary Communion debts, in addition to helping to pay Claycamp’s rent and funding personal loans for him.

Dillon says, “Think about it. You’re in the driver’s seat of a beautiful car. And you wreck it. And you say to the guy that built the car, If you’d made it a little uglier or a little slower car I wouldn’t have wrecked it. I didn’t operate this business. He did. The real question is, how come Gabriel didn’t make a living here? What did he do wrong that prevented him from making money?” Dillon says that if Claycamp was not making enough money that he should have assumed a role as an executive chef at the Swinery and taken another job at a restaurant at night. “Instead he was spending time down at the cafe saying woe is me,” he says. Dillon and other past Swinery employees suggest that Claycamp was absent enough that it was a significant factor in his failure there, as he simply was not spending enough time running his business. Dillon adds, “I don’t know what he was doing. He was not here. He wasn’t at the job so why should he get a check if he wasn’t at the job?”

“This building was a mistake too,” admits Dillon. “The landlord did give us a break on the rent for a certain number of months. But the place was falling down and was really considered a teardown by its owner.” Still, Dillon is proud of the significant amount of construction elements his design team has added to the property which were re-purposed from previous buildings. “It goes along with our mission of sustainability,” he added.

The Swinery’s employees said on Friday that they saw Claycamp’s departure as a positive development that would probably be ultimately good for the business. When I spoke to Claycamp earlier in the day he conveyed some of the acrimonious conversations he and Dillon had exchanged in the waning days of his tenure there. However, Claycamp also offered a conciliatory tone, saying that he was willing to work with the staff as a consultant to ease the transition, especially with some aspects of the business which the remaining staff may not be familiar with. Dillon says that he might be amenable to that, providing that he can get a “clean title to the business.” (According to Claycamp, Dillon was unable to get the bank to sign over the business to him as a sole proprietor without Claycamp being present.)

Dillon has suggested that a series of e-mails from Claycamp make him concerned that the process might be complicated, with Claycamp expecting further financial compensation for stepping away. “Gabriel thinks he has created a tremendous amount of value here. But he has also created a tremendous amount of negativity,” says Dillon, “and he negates the true cost of his management style and business screwups and how they have actually contributed to the economic deterioration of a new business.”

Dillon says that he hopes that Claycamp will divest himself of the Swinery so that a very capable and committed team can move forward to build a business, at last unencumbered by Claycamp’s past failures. “We have just brought in (Friday) what I think is one of the best pieces of Thundering Hooves beef that we’ve ever had,” he says. “Claycamp burned a lot of bridges with purveyors but I hope they’ll continue to do business with us.”

(Again, Claycamp’s comments were part of our original story Friday afternoon – see it here.)

57 Replies to "Followup: The Swinery's co-owner tells his side of the story"

  • Loodale July 3, 2010 (3:05 pm)

    My goodness. This whole story is dirty laundry that isn’t appropriate to be aired in such a public forum, I think.

    All we needed to know is that Claycamp was leaving but that the store would remain open and operate as normal. I’m not sure why either man felt the need to go into such detail of their personal issues with life and each other. It just seems like bad business.

  • SarahScoot July 3, 2010 (3:08 pm)

    Interesting story, but I have to point out that Dillon’s name is misspelled as “Dillion” four times throughout.

  • Kristina July 3, 2010 (3:43 pm)

    This sounds like a good move for West Seattle – remove the controversy from the Swinery and I think others will shop there.

  • MousePotato July 3, 2010 (3:43 pm)

    Via con tocino!!

  • Garden_nymph July 3, 2010 (3:44 pm)

    Vive le Swinery! Everything we have had there has been amazing; I’m glad I don’t live closer.

    I wish I had a benefactor like Dillon! He sounds like an amazingly patient and understanding man!

    Because I didn’t know Claycamp personally, or financially, I wish him the best as well. I especially hope his family can heal during this difficult time of divorce.

  • mitch July 3, 2010 (3:53 pm)

    Has to take care of the kids – what a cowardly excuse for ripping off his employees and partner.

  • Born To Be Mild July 3, 2010 (3:55 pm)

    Sounds like “Bad Romance”.

  • coffee July 3, 2010 (4:11 pm)

    I wish the new Swinery best!

  • jesse July 3, 2010 (5:43 pm)

    I’m sorry, but you’d really have to be ignorant to say that you didn’t know about Gabe’s normal business practices and debt load. It’s been in all the papers, on his blog, on his facebook page… anyone who goes into business with him has to be delusional.

  • lenguamor July 3, 2010 (5:57 pm)

    Such a shame that talent so often comes in a most imperfect package.
    I wish the *new* Swinery the very best, since they are a place I have come to count on among our many small businesses here. And I do wish Gabriel the best as well.

  • PSPS July 3, 2010 (6:10 pm)

    I agree with “Loodale.” I was rather shocked to see this in the WSB. Less tabloid, please. This nonsense belongs on Myspace.

  • Darren July 3, 2010 (7:01 pm)

    Too bad their employees are so rude.

  • cjboffoli July 3, 2010 (7:28 pm)

    Loodale & PSPS: It seems to me that, by your logic, the Watergate story would have been reported simply as “President Nixon will be stepping down and the country will be under new management.” The truth is that business, like life, is conducted by real people who have flaws, who make mistakes and who disagree. Anyone who would prefer to read only positive stories is welcome to skip over this. But I think WSB readers deserve at least the option to know the truth.

  • slh July 3, 2010 (7:28 pm)

    I don’t care about the back story. I like the Swinery and will continue to shop there. Their stuff and staff are excellent.

  • CCW July 3, 2010 (8:23 pm)

    I was there today and (while buying and eating some great food) heard some interesting dirt on the situation from the employees. I find it all to be very interesting and wish that all of you who feel like you are too good for this type of news would shut up and spend your time reading and commenting on something you do care about.

  • dill July 3, 2010 (8:24 pm)

    I also agree this was too much dirty laundry. I mean, come on, these people are by no means public figures. Who cares how they run their business. It’s not like it’s a publicly funded affair. But whatever. I’ve never figured out why this place gets so much written about it.

    As for “positive stories,” this has nothing to do with that, I think readers are turned off by the childish tone of the two stories which are rife with bizarre accusations and weird innuendo.

    Also, finding allegory in The Swinery Saga and Watergate is quite a stretch, too.

  • TheHouse July 3, 2010 (8:47 pm)

    @cjboffoli, your analogy of Watergate is severely flawed. The information shared here are of two private individuals and I seriously doubt Tracy independently verified these claims. Therefore, the statements printed in this and the accompanying story might be considered libel.

    This is simply airing dirty laundry between 2 private individuals and HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE ELSE. If this blog wrote this kind of stuff about me, I’d be pissed and calling a lawyer to remove it.

    This isn’t a surprise to me, but journalistic integrity doesn’t mean much on this blog from many of the things that I’ve seen (accidents, removal of opposing opinions, etc). Stick to reporting about new businesses and when the local high schools have Saddie Hawkins dances.

  • Manolita July 3, 2010 (9:27 pm)

    You got it, TheHouse!
    Watergate? History. Swinery? Gossip.

  • AJP July 3, 2010 (10:16 pm)

    I heart WSB, but I find it interesting that others thought this was pretty much gossip as well.

  • cjboffoli July 3, 2010 (10:31 pm)

    I think some of you are missing my point. I clearly wasn’t comparing the Swinery situation to Watergate but rather was suggesting that there are stories about unpleasant situations that are worth telling. There is a long tradition in journalism of exposing the sometimes sordid details of business failures, from Upton Sinclair to the devolution of Enron, the exposure of NYT reporter Jayson Blair, corruption inside the tobacco industry, the collapse of banks like Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns, the ouster of executives and CEOs, the malfeasance of business owners big and small. Believe me, I’d love to write stories about the singular perfection of just about everything in the case at Bakery Nouveau on any given day. But it wouldn’t be a very compelling story.
    A great number of Pulitzer Prizes have been awarded to journalists who have exposed the inner workings of business failures. Business schools everywhere teach their students with case studies that often exist because a journalist somewhere was in a position to ask what happened. If you consider how businesses spend billions for PR and marketing to gloss over their problems, the fact that two local business owners were candid and honest enough to answer my questions is actually refreshing. Many small businesses fail. Few are so willing to participate in documenting why.
    I know that with the great diversity of West Seattle Blog readers, not everyone is going to connect with every story. But as I’ve said before, one of the things I appreciate most as a WSB reader is that if there’s a story at the top of the page that doesn’t always interest me I only have to wait five minutes before some other story comes along that does.
    As ever, thanks for reading!

  • Garden_nymph July 3, 2010 (11:02 pm)

    Wow folks; nobody is making you read this blog! If it isn’t to your liking, MOVE ONE or start your own. The work Tracy and Patrick do for our community is invaluable! The community building they have done, the 24/7 reporting and sluthing, I appreciate it all and know that I couldn’t live a day without it. When I want to know what is going on, car crash, street closure, helicopters, I look to the WSB for the answers. Stories that the WSB has reported have been picked up by the network news and the Seattle Times. No longer is our beloved little peninsula the forgotten neighborhood it once was thanks to Tracy and Patrick. Christopher contributes photos and reports and I appreciate his work as well.
    As for the reporting of these articles, both parties spoke knowing their comments would be shared and published. Therefore, it’s not gossip!

    Again- don’t like it- don’t read it. I for one, support all they do and appreciate their efforts.

  • bobo July 4, 2010 (12:45 am)

    what I’m wondering is why this ‘angel investor’ didn’t take one look at that building the first time he saw it, saw that was about to fall over if you touched it wrong and say:

    “for what it’s probably going to cost to fix this, AND STILL NOT OWN IT, we could pay rent for 2 years on just about any space we wanted’.

    kinda makes you wonder….

  • Sonoma July 4, 2010 (2:13 am)

    Was this investment the equivalent of casting pearls before swine? What ye sow, so shall ye reap. A fly in the oinkment. Lotsa squealing going on. (Sorry, it’s late and prime time for silliness.)

  • rw July 4, 2010 (6:10 am)

    The one comment I most take exception to is the one about rude employees. I’ve only been there five or six times, but the people who work at the Swinery have always been extremely friendly and extremely helpful. I have never met Mr. Claycamp, so I do not have much of an opinion of him either way. But I do hope that the employees can now go about making the Swinery a successful and long-time part of our community.

  • miws July 4, 2010 (7:30 am)

    Thank you, Garden_nymph, you pretty much said what was in my brain, but couldn’t get out through my fingers and to the keyboard in such an eloquent manner.


    I would like to add though, first off; I have not yet been to the Swinery, (mostly due to current finances I have to watch my spending), so have had no experience with Gabe, or any of the staff. So, I can’t speak to that. However, I find it an interesting concept, and plan to visit someday.


    All that being said, to address the criticism of these two recent articles, beyond what Garden_nymph said. It’s understandable that even WSB’s most faithful followers and supporters aren’t going to be interested in every article. It’s also understandable that those same people aren’t always going to agree with publishing certain articles, and as seen here, some don’t, and some of those have offered constructive criticism, (which I know from reading many other articles, WSB appreciates, and will address). Heck, even one poster is almost apologetic.


    However, it always seems there are one or more, that criticize in a non-constructive manner, even to the point of being condescending.


    Makes me wonder if those people are actually that displeased with the article, or are just trying to take a jab at WSB and/or it’s contributors.



  • porkbelly July 4, 2010 (8:18 am)

    This is news, not dirty laundry. If there was ever a libel case involving Claycamp, he’d be found a public figure, not a private individual, due to his ceaseless self-promotion. He wants to be Anthony Bourdain, but then again, who doesn’t?

    While I’ve had fabulous food from him, I’ll never knowingly let him have any of my money again. If nothing else, this quote from him that appeared in The Stranger says all I need to know: “Health-department rules are critical for people who don’t know what the f*ck they’re doing. We’re chefs.”

    Sadly, the person Claycamp has most come to resemble is not Anthony Bourdain, but the father of Balloon Boy, so desperate for celebrity that common sense and sound thinking has no place in his plans or actions.

  • Valerie July 4, 2010 (9:10 am)

    First off let me say that I greatly appreciate and value the work WSB staff do, but I have some questions about the priority and the extent of this particular story. After several lengthy stories over the past several months about The Swinery, I still don’t understand why WSB has spilled so much figurative ink over the travails of just one local business and one apparently less-than-competent local businessman. Does this business really rate this much free media attention? I guess since I don’t have a dog in any of the fights surrounding it, I really don’t get it.

  • World Citizen July 4, 2010 (9:18 am)

    I just wish people would stop using the word “foodie” to describe their “love of food”. It doesn’t mean anything. As someone who has been in the restaurant industry for many years I have learned many things, not the least of which being that if you describe yourself as a “foodie” you are virtually guaranteed a substantial level of ignorance regarding food and restaurants. Not always true, but ALLMOST always.

  • JoB July 4, 2010 (9:29 am)

    i do care about the back story….

    i prefer to patronize West Seattle businesses that have respect for their community, their customers and their employees. I stopped buying at the Swinery because of the lack of respect Claycamp showed for all three…

    and i suspect i am not the only customer who did so after the last shutdown when he neglected to pay his employees…

    what some of you are referring to as dirty laundry looks to me like information that would inspire me to give the business a second chance.

  • Sammie July 4, 2010 (9:49 am)

    I will continue to support this business. Went there yesterday and had a fantastic experience. I am headed back in today to see if they have bacon dogs (they ran out yesterday) and christ-all-mighty! It is the Fourth of July — shouldn’t we all be outside grilling.

    See you soon tasty, tasty, pig.

  • porkbelly July 4, 2010 (10:11 am)

    Valerie, business reporting is a very legitimate form of journalism and good business reporting isn’t just about boosterism — it’s about who does what, just like any other form of journalism. The difference between a local business and an Enron or Lehman Brothers is just one of scale. You should consider yourself lucky that you have reporters on your local business beat that understand this.

    As practical matter, it’s not just West Seattle or the West Seattle Blog — the various travails of Claycamp’s business schemes have touched neighborhoods all over Seattle and made news in citywide media, beginning with his busts by the health department when he was running an underground restaurant.

    It’s a shame that his Swinery partner didn’t read the other stories before putting his money in, because the outcome was pretty certain to those who did. Providing information like that is a valuable service and it’s disheartening to see people complain about it in these comments. Apathy and lack of civics education is the biggest threat facing the First Amendment. You do have a dog in the fight — you just don’t recognize it.

  • Gina July 4, 2010 (10:46 am)

    The folks involved in the Swinery have chosen to air their dirty laundry via the WSB, which has probably been unwise. When approached they could’ve chosen to say nothing or at least be very careful about what they say.
    My humble advice to the Swinery employees/ownership: Keep the focus on offering fine products and work on improving customer service and building confidence. Whatever comes out of your mouth should be something positive about/for the business. Stop the gossip, in the shop and online.

    Best of luck!

  • cjboffoli July 4, 2010 (11:00 am)

    Valerie: If you do a Google search on him I expect you’d find plenty of Claycamp coverage (and just as much controversy) in the Stranger, the Seattle Weekly, the Seattle Times & PI. Why did THEY cover him? Why did the New York Times? And of all the talented chefs doing cool things with food in Seattle, why did Anthony Bourdain choose Claycamp to feature on his nationally televised show? Whether you see him as a talent or a trainwreck, the fact that he set up the Swinery in West Seattle definitely has to do with why he has been covered by the WSB. But we’ve hardly been alone.

  • Harry B July 4, 2010 (11:02 am)

    When you have a figure in your community who presumes to do good for said community and ends up bilking employees and investors, how could you not consider that news?

    Particularly when that figure makes himself a public figure by jumping at every PR opportunity available

    As for Dillon, I have a hard time feeling sorry for him. While I feel bad that he’s burned through so much cash, it is so puzzling how a savvy developer could pour so much cash into a building he doesn’t own and dump so much money into a business he not only doesn’t own outright, but is also saddled by so much personal debt. That’s just business (non)sense.

    Gabe has him by the balls and he knows it.

    I have friends that were bilked by Gabe on previous ventures and his exploits have been well documented in the press.

    Perhaps Mr. Dillon has not heard of the Googlewebs?

  • dawsonct July 4, 2010 (12:00 pm)

    Libel!??! Please! If you don’t want part of your life to be publicized, don’t run a business. Continue to be a faceless cog in someone else’s venture; let THEM be the face the public sees and talks about. If you don’t want publicity, stay out of the public eye.
    TheHouse needs to get a legal dictionary and do some simple research.

    I would happily work for Gabe Claycamp, chef, but would quickly walk away from any offers from Claycamp, chef/owner. Great chefs who run their own businesses usually have great business partners; rare is the individual who posses acumen in both fields, or can devote enough time to both needs in a business.

  • Loodale July 4, 2010 (12:02 pm)

    Hey, Christopher – just for the record, I was referring to what the guys said, not the fact that you wrote the story. They knew they were talking to a journalist when they were giving all the dirt.

    However, it looks like some people had issue with the fact that it was written. Eh, anytime you put something you create in a public forum there is going to be criticism. Don’t worry about defending your work so quickly. I would let it stand as it is and just be proud of what you created. :-)

  • jesse July 4, 2010 (12:13 pm)

    Gabe finally found a fall guy for his bad business practices. No wonder he feels he can just walk away from this one with no repercussions.

  • Valerie July 4, 2010 (12:33 pm)

    @porkbelly, my intent wasn’t to complain; I arrived a bit late on this one, it seems, (at the Swinery opening and not with the previous business attempts) and I honestly did not know the extent of the trail Mr. Claycamp had left. Without that knowledge, the coverage seemed disproportionate to me. I stand corrected. I totally recognize and acknowledge (and agree!) that “business reporting is a very legitimate form of journalism” and I do “consider [myself] lucky that [I] have reporters on [my] local business beat that understand this.” By “no dog in the fight” I only meant that I was not directly involved and so didn’t have any information that would have clued me into the importance of that degree of coverage. Again, I stand corrected.

  • Valerie July 4, 2010 (12:41 pm)

    @cjboffoli, interesting defense, but it doesn’t really provide any helpful information. As I tried to clarify in my previous comment to @porkbelly, I wasn’t asking for a justification or defensiveness, or intending to complain; only wishing to state that I lacked enough background to understand why the coverage of this one business had been so extensive. I think I have all the information I need and, as I said in my response to @porkbelly, I stand corrected.

  • WorldCitizen July 4, 2010 (12:59 pm)

    Well said.

  • cjboffoli July 4, 2010 (1:28 pm)

    Loodale: Thanks for the clarification. Believe me, after more than 3 years of contributing to the WSB I know well that the readers can sometimes be a tough crowd. But I really don’t feel the need to sit back and feel like I’m above the debate. That seems sort of “old media” to me. I enjoy the more intimate connection the WSB has to its readers, seeing the kind of issues a certain article creates, and having the ability to be part of the conversation.
    My responses to this piece have been intended less in my own defense and more in that of the WSB editors as I take exception to assertions that the coverage was in the realm of tabloid gossip and that their decisions to follow this story were flawed.

  • Kayleigh July 4, 2010 (2:12 pm)

    Valerie, I think you were right the first time.

  • TheHouse July 4, 2010 (2:33 pm)

    I’m not debating the issue anymore. I am always right and I have independently and codependently verified this fact.

    As for the statement, “Don’t like it, don’t read it”….just think about it. It’s kind of hard not to know if you like a story, unless you read it.

    I also will continue shopping at The Swinery. Bacon Hot Dogs rock.

    Happy Independence Day!

  • dsa July 4, 2010 (3:02 pm)

    I appreciate the in depth reporting that WSB has been able to provide on this topic. If only one side of the story was being told it would not be as nearly informative or for that matter in my case educational on how and why businesses fail.
    I’ve been asked by reporters for interviews and it was clear that my name and the details of what I said would be printed. I declined. These two could have done the same.

  • gtothen July 5, 2010 (12:09 am)

    This is DEFINITELY news, and an interesting story to tell. And many lessons to be learned by the readers. The perspective is always fair here, and I am so glad to have this as a local, community, neighborhood news resource.
    I have known many people in the food industry like Mr. Claycamp: incredibly talented & creative but not so clear with rules & business sense. Its too bad that he couldn’t find a partner who balanced him out because along with all of the bad comments about him are some that would make you believe he could really do some incredible things with food!

  • nosy neighbor July 5, 2010 (3:51 pm)

    @ Garden Nymph
    As a neighbor, I heard a lot going on.
    Everyone, including Dillon, was dismayed at the condition of the shop, but the lease had been signed by Claycamp supposedly.
    But true to their mission of sustainability, they reused materials, refinishing them. The wood was free, but the labor surely was not. The tile was free, but the labor/time cost was just one more heavy straw that broke the camel’s back. They sanded down that old wood and made that building look so nice. People forget what that building used to look like!

  • k July 5, 2010 (6:21 pm)

    just got back from a weekend away and look what’s still making news on the blog. please make this go away. who cares? we don’t need this much info about anything. let this rest.

  • A July 5, 2010 (8:21 pm)

    Wow, I am surprised that ANY business person would dare tread in West Seattle after this blog coverage. It seems like The Swinery and its “controversial” owner were doomed from the moment they arrived. Perhaps we could all work on being more welcoming to new business, particularly in this economy.

    • WSB July 5, 2010 (8:36 pm)

      Dear “A,” if you would like to put these stories in context of the entirety of our West Seattle business coverage, you are welcome to scroll through the archive of all stories (711 of them as of tonight) tagged “WS businesses”:

  • Leroy July 5, 2010 (8:44 pm)

    I am so with you on this ‘k’. We all need to stop though – it’s the reader who are feeding this – not the WSB at this point.

  • A July 5, 2010 (9:12 pm)

    I am commenting equally to WSB and the readers. Really. Stop.

  • dawsonct July 5, 2010 (11:54 pm)

    Oh, k, A? Stop. Reading.

    Seriously. You don’t want to read about something, so everyone should feel exactly the same way you do? Rather supercilious, aren’t we?

  • Paul July 6, 2010 (12:06 am)

    I was so excited when I walked by and discoverd this new place. I had visions of cured meats,gaba goo,pork belly sandwiches and sausages hanging on the walls and cheese as far as the eye could see. But my hopes were dashed as soon as I entered. Still determined to satisfy my lust for the prize, I browsed and talked with the employee about what little options there were and as soon as I was about to get my bounty some friend of this employee busts in the joint and all of a sudden I am forgotten. I put my wallet back in my pocket and walked out of this shattered dream and wished them good luck

  • Leslie July 6, 2010 (9:34 am)

    I think this is useful information and a worthwhile story. I’m not a big meat eater so while it doesn’t affect me personally, a good friend stopped going to the Swinery because a vendor she regularly visited at the Farmers Market was not being paid by them. She liked the Swinery’s products but didn’t want to support a business that treated its suppliers that way. With the information in these posts, I think she can make an informed decision as to whether or not she’s comfortable with the direction of the business and its place in the community.

    Plus, I mean, just as a curious human who likes a story, these are the kinds of things I used to always wonder about before we had things like neighborhood blogs. “What ever happened to that business? Where did that guy go?” And one used to piece it together through gossip and second-hand stuff. In this instance, both sides told their take directly and we can decide what we think. So thanks, WSB! I appreciate the info.

  • MLJ July 6, 2010 (10:40 am)

    I got tired of buying food from this creep, and went straight to the source. You guys know you can buy directly from Thundering Hooves right? There’s a nice little drop off spot in West Seattle and the product is amazing.

  • Don July 8, 2010 (1:35 pm)

    I love you Swinery and your new staff. Thanks for the burgers sizzling on my grill right now and thank you lord for this 90 degree weather. Burgers, beer, best friends! Cheers West Seattle.

  • WSB July 20, 2010 (4:42 pm)

    Don’t bother trying to post rumors here. We’ve already checked that one out on a multitude of fronts including the authorities in the situation. Completely false.

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