Update: Arbor Heights house, cars burn; 1 man badly burned

(Above photo by Tony Bradley, added 12:51 pm)

(photo by neighbor Nathan, added 12:36 pm)
ORIGINAL 12:13 PM REPORT: Thanks for the calls, texts, e-mails, etc. – on our way to a house fire in Arbor Heights, 35th/108th (map). More momentarily. Several reports describe it as “big.” 12:19 PM UPDATE: From Seattle Fire spokesperson Dana Vander Houwen: When firefighters arrived, they found a fully involved 2 story single family residence and two cars on fire. Nearby homes were threatened so they went into defensive mode, protecting them. A 34-year-old man — found outside the house — has “life-threatening injuries” from burns, but she says everyone else got out OK. And she says the fire is under control. 12:24 PM UPDATE: Co-publisher Patrick has just talked with Vander Houwen at the scene and she says people are being kept far back (traffic is closed for blocks around) because there IS (as posted in comments) “a SUSPICION of a meth lab being involved.” This is as close as we’ve been allowed to get:

12:39 PM UPDATE: In comments, Cliff writes:

We live across the street we left as soon as we could. I heard people yelling and went out my front door to see the house behind our neighbor’s house fully engulfed in flames. And I could hear small explosions taking place. We took our valuables and pets and left immediately. For years our neighbors have suspected drug activity in the house. I would not be anywhere near the fumes.

Another neighbor, Nathan, has sent photos via Twitter and we have added one at the top of this report. More than half a dozen police cars are at the scene as well as the sizable Fire Department presence. As of about 12:40 pm, the SPD Arson and Bomb Squad also has arrived. 12:54 PM UPDATE: Tony Bradley has sent photos – closest ones we have seen yet – we have added one at the top of this report and here are a few more:

Investigators have not been able to get into the house as hot spots remain but the Arson/Bomb Squad specialists are likely to try shortly, according to what we are being told on the scene.

1:12 PM UPDATE: Just in case you have seen “shots fired” reports anywhere: We asked, and there is NO indication any gunshots were involved here, according to what authorities are telling us at the scene. That early report of “sounds like gunshots” is believed to have been from potential small explosions neighbors heard while the flames were raging. Police spokesperson Mark Jamieson tells WSB the first call to police was from a neighbor who thought he heard a shot — minutes before smoke from the fire started pouring skyward — but it’s now believed that was likely a popping sound related to the fire. He also says he has no information at this point on any possible past drug activity at the house and at this point, “this is a fire call, with SPD assisting.” If investigators find evidence of a crime, of course, that status may change, and we will continue to monitor. We are also still at the scene, where the media’s been allowed to get a somewhat closer look at the fire aftermath.

1:40 PM UPDATE: Here’s one of those photos we just got – first of the house and cars, post-flames:

No official word yet on the condition of the burned man but he was said to be in pretty bad shape as he was rushed to Harborview Medical Center.

3:11 PM UPDATE: No official updates from fire/police recently but we’re going back to the scene to see if there’s anything new to learn there. Meantime, here are a couple clips from earlier in the afternoon – first, SFD spokesperson Dana Vander Houwen giving the toplines as they were known at the time:

Second, an even closer view from the same vantage point of the photo we added at 1:40 pm (above):

3:42 PM UPDATE: Roads in the area have just been reopened. Not much fire/police presence left at the scene. Adding another aftermath photo:

6:03 PM UPDATE: Latest from the Fire Department: The cause remains “undetermined,” and spokesperson Vander Houwen says she’s unlikely to have final word on the cause tonight – she says investigators still need to do “additional interviews” as they try to sort out what happened. The damage estimate at this point is $250,000.

10:01 PM UPDATE: This evening’s police update is basically “we’re still working with the Fire Department, but it remains primarily their investigation, and there’s nothing new to say” (our paraphrase). Our next update most likely won’t be before tomorrow morning, at which time we’ll start a new followup story. But in the meantime, we are reposting this comment that has just come in from “Neighbor”:

I’m not sure what all was written above but I’ll tell you my story and I was the first one to get to the burn victim.

I was doing yard work when I heard someone yelling help me, help me. I live on the next street over and ran to help him. I was the first person to get to him and he was sitting on the door steps of the house directly next door screaming for help. As I approached him he got up and started walking towards me and I along with another neighbor were trying to get him to sit down. He had terrible burns on his chest, hands, arms, some on his head, and really it was so crazy I was not trying to see where else. His skin was peeling off, really terrible terrible. He sat for a moment in the road from 108th to his house but then got up again and continued to the main street. Again we were trying to get him to sit but he was yelling help me (there was nothing at all we could do at that point we were waiting for help to come). He then started yelling to give him a car…..aparently he thought he would drive himself to a hospital. A man in a van stopped in the road and he got out to see if he could help. The burn victim then made a dash to the car (which I believe and someone else also agreed that there were kids in the back of that car) which was still running in the middle of the street to steal it so he could drive to a hospital. The owner of the car had to forcefully get the victim away from his car which was really sad to see because as we all knew the victim was in total shock. He then made his way up the street and finally sat at the corner of 36th and 108th street until the first fire truck showed up and then he walked down to it where they started treating him.

The stuff about the meth lab. NO, the house was not a meth lab, police and firemen I spoke with have all said there was nothing at all that indicated it was. The reason that got out is because there had been major concern that it might be by neighbors and police who were very familiar with the victim. In fact a police officer asked him very directly if there was a meth lab before sending in firemen!

There were many many explosions and so far all thoughts about what those were are speculation. There have been people who said that they saw spray paint cans exploding and there were two cars with gas cans that probably exploded. More explosions sounded like either firecrackers or maybe bullets but who knows for sure!

I spoke just an hour ago with fire units still at the house and from talking to them and seeing the damage it looks like it started at the car he was probably working on in his carport. The car lid was open and the damage was clear that it started there.

There was damage to the house directly next door but not really too much. Some homes have smoke issues but they all seem to be minor.

We heard that the mother was not in town and had just recently paid off the house and they were doing remodels on it like a new deck last week and new windows.

Also talking to one of the first responders they said that he had about 70% burns on his body (yes I can say it looked like that), and that due to the chest burn, the amount of burned body, and the possibility that he inhaled when he was on fire or burning he has a very serious uphill battle for his life. Those are not my words those are the words of a first responder who worked on him.

I am absolutely horrified by what I saw today and for what that man is going through. There has been lots of speculation about him being a guy who was not the best of neighbors but everyone I’ve talked to is nothing but concerned for his well being and feel horrible about it. I can tell you that everyone in the neighborhood is pulling for him and he and his family are in our prayers!

I don’t know if that clears anything up, but I’ve never been this close to a story like this and I thought I’d tell it the way I saw it and I saw the whole thing from the beginning.

More tomorrow, including, we hope, an update on the burn victim.

35 Replies to "Update: Arbor Heights house, cars burn; 1 man badly burned"

  • coffeeisgood May 25, 2009 (12:14 pm)

    was wondering, we are here at the coffee shop and its been a non stop flow of units.

  • MargL May 25, 2009 (12:15 pm)

    We could see and smell the smoke! I hope the rumor is untrue and it was not a meth lab. I do not want to breathe that stuff!

  • MargL May 25, 2009 (12:16 pm)

    It’s further south than 103rd. 108th I think

  • Sam May 25, 2009 (12:17 pm)

    iTS ON 105TH

  • jacky m May 25, 2009 (12:17 pm)

    I heard it was i meth lab..

  • WSB May 25, 2009 (12:17 pm)

    First tipster texted us that it’s 103rd but we see on the fire log it’s 108th. Patrick is almost there.

  • HD May 25, 2009 (12:19 pm)

    I’m on 104th, it’s further down. It’s smelling pretty burnt…

  • Chris M May 25, 2009 (12:19 pm)

    It’s hazy and smells like smoke in Westwood Village… Hope everyone is OK.

  • Sydney May 25, 2009 (12:21 pm)

    its at 108th and 36th. Cop cars have blocked off the roads so if you want to see anything you will have to walk. People heard explosions and many saw a man sprinting down the street. He attempted to steal a car but couldnt get in. You can see him squirming on the ground with many ambulance people tending to him. Lots of people were talking about it being a meth lab which is scary because i live a few blocks away. BIG smoke ball and lots of explosions. pretty scary but luckily the fire trucks are very fast. They were there before anything could go crazy.

  • WSB May 25, 2009 (12:22 pm)

    I have just posted an update filed moments ago by Seattle FD media – nothing about this alleged meth lab rumor but we are there with the rest of the media and should find out soon – TR

  • coffeeisgood May 25, 2009 (12:25 pm)

    ambulances are now going north on 35th ave sw.

  • anonymous May 25, 2009 (12:27 pm)

    someone over heard the fire fighters calling him by name as he ran out of his house. The firefighters asked the man, “did you have a lab in there?”

  • jh May 25, 2009 (12:28 pm)

    I dont think a meth lab was involved because they did not dispatch the hazardous materials unit according to the 911 log.

  • Cliff May 25, 2009 (12:32 pm)

    We live across the street we left as soon as we could. I heard people yelling and went out my front door to see the house behind our neighbor’s house fully engulfed in flames. And I could hear small explosions taking place. We took our valuables and pets and left immediately. For years our neighbors have suspected drug activity in the house. I would not be anywhere near the fumes.

  • James May 25, 2009 (12:38 pm)

    Terrible. really sorry for 34 yr old man – prayers w/ him.

    I just posted a blog update as to how twitter was first to news w/ this – really interesting for me how that worked:

    http://buzzonlinemedia.com/2009/twitter-for-breaking-news/

  • WSB May 25, 2009 (12:39 pm)

    Jh, our quote is directly from the SFD spokesperson. Don’t know why hazmat not dispatched but we’ll be inquiring. We’ve got one person on the scene and I’m writing/scanner-monitoring/e-mail-twitter-FB monitoring from here. Thanks to all for the updates etc. – TR

  • g May 25, 2009 (12:46 pm)

    I live within the block of this house and it has been long suspected as a meth/drug house.

    As this house in an alley between 36th & 35th the fire department has difficulty with direct access to the house and were approaching it from 108th.

    I left the neighborhood to avoid the toxic fumes regardless of it being a meth house or not.

    several homes next to or nearby use oil heat and these oil tanks are at risk of explosion.

  • Gina May 25, 2009 (1:51 pm)

    Could see the smoke down at the beach for low tide.

  • lykranian May 25, 2009 (1:53 pm)

    This house is right behind my fiend’s house, and he said that it was a meth lab. He had been cracked a couple of times already. They had to douse bushes and such to keep their house from blazing.

  • great coverage May 25, 2009 (2:40 pm)

    Just like Gina I could see the huge plume of black smoke coming up over the ridge from the beach and was very concerned. Terrible.

  • S May 25, 2009 (3:32 pm)

    Any word on the houses next to it? My relatives lived to the side of the house but were thankfully gone for this weekend. I could see their truck is burnt and dead but any damages to the surrounding buildings?

  • WSB May 25, 2009 (3:41 pm)

    Nothing visible, according to co-publisher Patrick, who is just back from another visit to the scene. The road just reopened, too – TR

  • WSB May 25, 2009 (5:01 pm)

    Update – does look like some siding charring on the house to the “left” of what you see in our aftermath pictures.

  • anonymous May 25, 2009 (6:02 pm)

    There’s an explosion and black smoke… and you guys are afraid of breathing the meth? lol :P

  • WSB May 25, 2009 (6:17 pm)

    At this point, incidentally, there has been no official confirmation of any sort of drug-related discovery in the house.

  • Kyle May 25, 2009 (9:20 pm)

    I saw the entire thing unfold i was sitting at my house doing yard work when i herd yelling i had people next door who had friends over so i thought it was them my friend was the one who called the police he saw a man with third degre burns all over saying someone help so he called 911 at first he hered pop pop so he thought it was gun shots so he reported that then he went up to check it out and saw the fire so he told 911 then me and my family thought it was a meth lab so we got away and went to west wood village we were sitting in the car with the windows open recovering when i saw a smokeish fog and smelled something bad we emidiatly closed the windows and drove to our friends house and stayed there for a while about a hour later we came back and the situation was handled i still suspect a meth lab because our throughts were burning and now i hope this is a message to everyone do not do drugs or smoke this is what might happen

  • RAW May 25, 2009 (9:32 pm)

    Nice,immediate coverage on the event!

  • neighbor May 25, 2009 (9:49 pm)

    I’m not sure what all was written above but I’ll tell you my story and I was the first one to get to the burn victim.

    I was doing yard work when I heard someone yelling help me, help me. I live on the next street over and ran to help him. I was the first person to get to him and he was sitting on the door steps of the house directly next door screaming for help. As I approached him he got up and started walking towards me and I along with another neighbor were trying to get him to sit down. He had terrible burns on his chest, hands, arms, some on his head, and really it was so crazy I was not trying to see where else. His skin was peeling off, really terrible terrible. He sat for a moment in the road from 108th to his house but then got up again and continued to the main street. Again we were trying to get him to sit but he was yelling help me (there was nothing at all we could do at that point we were waiting for help to come). He then started yelling to give him a car…..aparently he thought he would drive himself to a hospital. A man in a van stopped in the road and he got out to see if he could help. The burn victim then made a dash to the car (which I believe and someone else also agreed that there were kids in the back of that car) which was still running in the middle of the street to steal it so he could drive to a hospital. The owner of the car had to forcefully get the victim away from his car which was really sad to see because as we all knew the victim was in total shock. He then made his way up the street and finally sat at the corner of 36th and 108th street until the first fire truck showed up and then he walked down to it where they started treating him.

    The stuff about the meth lab. NO, the house was not a meth lab, police and firemen I spoke with have all said there was nothing at all that indicated it was. The reason that got out is because there had been major concern that it might be by neighbors and police who were very familiar with the victim. In fact a police officer asked him very directly if there was a meth lab before sending in firemen!

    There were many many explosions and so far all thoughts about what those were are speculation. There have been people who said that they saw spray paint cans exploding and there were two cars with gas cans that probably exploded. More explosions sounded like either firecrackers or maybe bullets but who knows for sure!

    I spoke just an hour ago with fire units still at the house and from talking to them and seeing the damage it looks like it started at the car he was probably working on in his carport. The car lid was open and the damage was clear that it started there.

    There was damage to the house directly next door but not really too much. Some homes have smoke issues but they all seem to be minor.

    We heard that the mother was not in town and had just recently paid off the house and they were doing remodels on it like a new deck last week and new windows.

    Also talking to one of the first responders they said that he had about 70% burns on his body (yes I can say it looked like that), and that due to the chest burn, the amount of burned body, and the possibility that he inhaled when he was on fire or burning he has a very serious uphill battle for his life. Those are not my words those are the words of a first responder who worked on him.

    I am absolutely horrified by what I saw today and for what that man is going through. There has been lots of speculation about him being a guy who was not the best of neighbors but everyone I’ve talked to is nothing but concerned for his well being and feel horrible about it. I can tell you that everyone in the neighborhood is pulling for him and he and his family are in our prayers!

    I don’t know if that clears anything up, but I’ve never been this close to a story like this and I thought I’d tell it the way I saw it and I saw the whole thing from the beginning.

  • Farmersfriend May 25, 2009 (10:23 pm)

    What is the proper way to treat a burn victim like in that scenario? I am sorry for you and the victim. It must have been HORRIBLE!

  • Local May 25, 2009 (10:57 pm)

    We’re all praying for our neighbor burned in this horrific event, and are hoping other family members are safe! Let’s allow them the privacy and decorum they deserve both by law and humanity. I’ve seen mostly goodness today in the way our neighbors rallied, and in the amazingly quick and effective response of our local fire fighters! While sad that the cause dictates, I think I may sleep a bit tonight knowing that there are fire fighters still staged outside. Heal quickly, neighbor!

  • KateMcA May 26, 2009 (2:48 pm)

    I volunteered in the burn ICU at Harborview for a while, and I can tell you that no matter what someone was involved in, no one deserves the kind of injury that the 34 year old is having to endure. He definitely has an uphill fight, especially if there were inhalation burns. I can assure you if he’s in that unit, he’s in extraordinarily capable (and loving) hands.

    Sounds like people did the right thing– the best thing is to stay with the victim, try to keep them calm and call 911. Definitely give no fluids (fluid resuscitation is a VERY delicate balance after a burn) and put NOTHING on the burn.

  • LMA May 26, 2009 (3:18 pm)

    I was at Cafe Rozella I could smell something burning was not sure were it was coming from a few costumers came to the Cafe and they said that they heared a loud bang form there house they live on 13th and Roxberry , we sat outside on the side and smelled ashes. Worried, did not know were it was coming from so I walked around the building to see if the building was on fire that is how strong it smelled. Hope that Gentleman will be fine. What a terrible thing to have happen

  • Scott May 26, 2009 (11:11 pm)

    Hope you make it buddy…
    It is nice to see everyone pulling for you.

  • Vicki May 28, 2009 (9:41 am)

    This home was definitely not involved with drug activity. The investigation proved it began from a car battery charger exploding. With the resulting flames other flammables began to explode as well. I think it is very unfortunate that a paranoid neighbor begins yelling meth house and it affects the response of emergency equipment to the fire and the treatment of the occupant. He is now fighting for his life at Harborview. He is a wonderful young man with a loving family. Please pray. Don’t assume the first comments you hear are always drug related.

  • WSB May 28, 2009 (1:56 pm)

    I have just checked again with Seattle Fire Department. They have NOT determined nor released an official cause of this fire, fyi. When they do, we will publish a new story about it – I am checking daily. Also, while we received information offsite on a potential name of the victim, there is no officially available hospital information about him, so I cannot confirm a name. I am closing this comment thread; if anyone has information worth investigating in the ongoing news coverage, or an update on the survivor to share with people, you are welcome to e-mail me at editor@westseattleblog.com … TR

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