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  • #891198

    Graciano
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    The other night I was at Beer Star, their must have been 5 or 6 dogs inside, One of the owner was oblivious to where the dog was laying..Right in the middle of the walk way.

    Home depot on delridge has a sign, service dog only, but the manager rather you bring them in, then leaving them in your car.
    I saw an english bull dog in Safeway yesterday…Sign by the door Service dogs.

    Why can’t you leave your dogs at home, I don’t bring my pets with me..

    #891200

    KBear
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    The other day in Safeway I saw a little girl picking up portobello mushrooms one by one and running her fingers over the gills. Her dad stood right next to her and did nothing. But at least they didn’t have a dog with them.

    #891209

    waikiki…girl
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    I always thought if the dog wasn’t a Service Animal then you could not bring it into any establishment, and especially a Food establishment, am I wrong?
    BeerStar and the other two establishments all are joined together (open doorways linking them together) so don’t say it’s ok for BeerStar because they don’t serve food, they do sell food items.

    #891233

    skeeter
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    I’m also bothered by dogs in stores, restaurants, offices, and hotels. I don’t hate dogs. I just don’t think it is appropriate to bring dogs to indoor public places unless the business is specifically geared towards animals – such as a pet grooming shop.
    If you like a restaurant or store and the owner allows pets I’d encourage you to let the owner know the pets bother you. He/she can then use that information to shape store policy.
    Children in stores and restaurants don’t bother me. I see a public benefit to allowing parents to help socialize their children by bringing them into indoor public places.

    #891255

    grog
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    I DON’T have a problem with dogs in stores as long as they’re well-behaved. I don’t see it as gross, disgusting or filthy, unless the particular animal is.

    Once, while on a service project in El Salvador I was injured and required seven stiches in my leg. While waiting for the Dr. to see/stich me a beautiful all-white German Sheppard (think Jack Lalanne) was roaming through the reception area, he came up to me and sat at my side for a few minutes to receive some lovin.

    A short while later as the Dr was getting ready to sew me up the dog appeared again and the Dr. asked me if I was okay with its presence, I was, getting loved by it the entire time I was getting treated. She explained that the dog lives near-by and loves to spend time with those who have time to share with it, and he will occasionally not leave someone’s side who is in great pain or distress, like a self-taught de-stress animal.

    Yes, dogs have germs, as do I, you, our reusable grocery bags, the handles on the carts in the store, our cell phone, debit cards and cash. If it wasn’t for germs we’d all be dead!

    My view is that all items in the store are either wrapped or designed to be washed prior to consuming, so why is it any different than your dog (or cat) roaming around in your kitchen? (I’ll be the floors in the stores get cleaned more often than those in most homes)

    Granted, dogs don’t have the decency to wait to relieve themselves, they do it when and where they need to, so that can be a problem, but I bet its maybe 3 or 4 out of a 100 that actually do so.

    Live and let live, wag more-bark less!

    #891256

    grog
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    I DON’T have a problem with dogs in stores as long as they’re well-behaved. I don’t see it as gross, disgusting or filthy, unless the particular animal is.

    Once, while on a service project in El Salvador I was injured and required seven stiches in my leg. While waiting for the Dr. to see/stich me a beautiful all-white German Sheppard (think Jack Lalanne) was roaming through the reception area, he came up to me and sat at my side for a few minutes to receive some lovin.

    A short while later as the Dr was getting ready to sew me up the dog appeared again and the Dr. asked me if I was okay with its presence, I was, getting loved by it the entire time I was getting treated. She explained that the dog lives near-by and loves to spend time with those who have time to share with it, and he will occasionally not leave someone’s side who is in great pain or distress, like a self-taught de-stress animal.

    Yes, dogs have germs, as do I, you, our reusable grocery bags, the handles on the carts in the store, our cell phone, debit cards and cash. If it wasn’t for germs we’d all be dead!

    My view is that all items in the store are either wrapped or designed to be washed prior to consuming, so why is it any different than your dog (or cat) roaming around in your kitchen? (I’ll be the floors in the stores get cleaned more often than those in most homes)

    Granted, dogs don’t have the decency to wait to relieve themselves, they do it when and where they need to, so that can be a problem, but I bet its maybe 3 or 4 out of a 100 that actually do so.

    Live and let live, wag more-bark less!

    PS~No, I don’t have a dog, however am cat-owned!

    #891278

    PangolinPie
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    I love seeing dogs around town, and don’t mind them in stores and restaurants at all. They’re certainly no dirtier than any average rando. And they’re not touching the produce, which…ew. I think I’ll start letting shop owners know that I don’t appreciate people bringing in their grotty, unwashed kids and letting them touch stuff. I’d let a dog lick my face before I’d eat food a toddler touched.

    #891380

    Graciano
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    Guess King County health violations are for the someone else…Just like the new texting and driving law..I’m special and the law’s are for the other person.

    #891415

    JanS
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    I have never understood why people have to bring their furbabies along grocery shopping, putting them in carts, or , heaven forbid, let them walk around on a leash, tripping unsuspecting souls (I’m a bit disabled, so the walking thing gets to me a lot). To the person who brought up kids touching the produce…yeah, I never let mine do that. It’s called parenting, I think. I am now immune suppressed (organ transplant), so a random grocery shopping trip can cause any number of things. I am well aware of that. I can’t hide away from the public. But…kids are petri dishes. When they are touching that produce when they may have the latest cold going around, they are touching more than the produce, and it can be passed along, causing people like me severe illnesses at times. You can’t ban children. You can ban animals if they’re not service animals. I just wish people were more diligent “following the rules”, and control the kids/pets that they bring along. Just because you love them doesn’t mean I do.

    #891458

    blbl
    Participant

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t mind dogs in grocery stores or restaurants. It’s against the law. And the comparison to children is old and stupid.

    #891462

    Beckyjo
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    Not every disability is apparent.
    Be aware that many disabilities are invisible, such as deafness, epilepsy, autism, multiple sclerosis (M.S.), life-threatening allergies, psychiatric disabilities and others. In some cases, you may not be able to determine if someone is disabled or the extent of their disability.

    It is illegal under Federal law for anyone to require documentation of a team.
    Many disabled individuals choose to provide a vest for their Service Dog and/or carry identification, however it is not required that they do. You may encounter a disabled individual who chooses to keep their disability private. Their Service Dog may not be wearing a vest and they may not be carrying any documentation on their person.

    #891479

    JoB
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    unfortunately some people abuse the rules for service dogs
    that is unfortunate because for those people who rely on them.. they are essential
    they literally make the difference between being able to function .. and not

    #891500

    Graciano
    Participant

    I was at the Metallica concert last night..:D Someone had to bring a so-called service dog into the concert. WHY???, can’t you leave your pet at home for a few hours vs exposing them to the sound levels of a rock concert, Let alone Metallica. I hope they brought some hearing protection for the dog…Poor doggy :(

    #891510

    JanS
    Participant

    blbl…if that was directed at me, I wasn’t comparing the two…just responding to a previous post. Bringing your pet may be cute to some, but still illegal. I would rather them in the store , though, than left in a hot car in the parking lot. And, while I said something about kids touching produce , etc., it’s not just kids…how many times to adult shoppers paw over the fruit, or tomatoes, or avocados, etc, looking for just the right one. I would suspect we’re all guilty of that, including me. I’m as guilty as the next person. It’s why we wash the stuff at home :) And there’s the carts, and the bathroom door, and the check out counter, and I could go on. Your family pet may be annoying in a store, for sure, but, the store is not a sterile environment to begin with. Because I’m immune suppressed, I notice it more, I guess.

    #891519

    blbl
    Participant

    No, JanS, I was responding to KBear, but I still think adults or kids touching produce is nowhere near in the same universe as a dog. And I’m also not responding to legitimate service animals, but we all know those are a small fraction of the number of animals in stores. I love dogs. I have dogs. My dogs sniff other dogs’ butts. They walk on poop, and they eat their own vomit when they’re ill. They cannot wash their paws nor apply hand sanitizer. They’re dogs.

    #891530

    Talaki34
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    Over the years, I have observed:
    •Drunks relieving themselves in the isles
    •Parents changing diapers in the produce section.
    •Adults/teens/kids walking out of the restroom without washing their hands and then touching everything.
    •People who can shower, but choose not to.
    •Picking noses, butts, hands down pants doing an adjustment or just leaving it there “being cool” until they want to touch something.
    •Pants down past the butt with underwear (not always serviceable) showing. Great seeing them lean up against bins and counters.
    •Sneezing and coughing without even attempting to contain it.
    Worried about dogs? Think about all the things that can and do happen before your fellow shoppers even enter the store.
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    My thoughts,not the law.

    I do agree that dogs and other animals should be left at home if someone is just running errands. It is healthier and less stressful for most of them. If it cannot be avoided, then at the very least they should not be permitted in the bakery, produce section or any other area that has unprotected food.

    Restaurants are a different “animal”. If the restaurant is inside, dogs should only enter if posted that they are welcome. This gives other patrons fair warning. If it is an outside café adjacent to public walkways, it is appropriate to have a well-behaved dog at the table. An outside café that is away from general public access should be treated the same as a restaurant with four walls, only if allowed by the establishment.

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    A few questions by management would help keep things better managed.

    http://www.wla.org/assets/WALE/2015WALEConference/Service%20Animals%20and%20the%20Washington%20Law%20Against%20Discrimination.pdf

    #891564

    JanS
    Participant

    Talaki34…I need to know where you shop, so I can avoid it ;-)

    #892201

    22blades
    Participant

    There are very good reasons why there are health regulations for sanitation including animals in establishments. Pets do not excersize the same level of hygiene than people (insert image of disturbing pet behaviour). I have personally witnessed a dog take a “dump” right in the muddle of an establishment. OK. Get it? Now take that visual with you…

    My partner also got bit, right through her jeans in a bar. The owner posted a sign asfter that, toot sweet.

    Forget the law for a moment. Ask any attorney representing a bar or restaurant about customer injuries or food poisoning. It can and has killed enitre businesses.

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