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March 26, 2008 at 1:14 am #619871
KayleighMemberMakes what point? That the non-white people of Baltimore are plotting to hurl the word “cracker” at me when I visit?
Do you really not understand the difference between sarcasm and directly insulting someone?
I notice you didn’t get nasty till you found out I wasn’t 100% white. Very interesting. (By the way, you’d never know it by looking at me.)
March 26, 2008 at 1:22 am #619872
AnonymousInactiveI have no idea what that last comment means, and don’t really care to.
Do you realize that this whole conversation we are having is based on the fact that you continue to challenge, discredit and dismiss what I am saying I have experienced? I could go so far as to say that you are calling me a liar.
I believe that to be “rude” and “uncalled” for.
March 26, 2008 at 1:24 am #619873
JoBParticipantladies.. i know you both to be ladies…
yes, new resident, there are places where it is most uncomfortable to be a white person…
but not nearly so many where it is uncomfortable to be a person of color.
You may not like the way you are looked at or talked to in predominately ethnic neighborhoods…
but they don’t follow you to make sure you don’t steal.. their police don’t pull your car over and harass you for being in the wrong neighborhood…
and i would be willing to bet that you have never been spreadeagled by a policeman.
most people of color i know have… for no reason other than their color.
As for the joke thing.. of course there are more jokes about white folks.. there are more of us and this is basically our culture.
Think of the comedians you know about.. the famous ones… They are disproportionately white… thus.. white jokes.
besides, someone needs to make fun of us. we are pretty d.. silly.
March 26, 2008 at 1:34 am #619874
KayleighMemberNo, NewRes, I believe that *you* believe you are the victim of racism. That doesn’t mean I believe that you actually *are* the victim of racism.
First off, if it were bad enough, I reckon you would quit. I certainly would. (And I don’t deny that some people of color have stereotypes of white people that some white people might find offensive. It doesn’t follow, however, that great harm comes from those.)
Second, are you familiar with the Pygmailion effect? How if we anticipate that someone will behave a certain way, we unconsciously can provoke that behavior in them (or interpret their behavior as conforming to our stereotype?)
Peace, on behalf of my greatgrandparents.
March 26, 2008 at 1:41 am #619875
barmargiaMemberSo are we getting a Trader Joe’s or not?
March 26, 2008 at 1:42 am #619876
JenVMembernow I have the urge to go to Trader Joe’s for some crackers…..
/ no offense meant, lightening the mood
//cheers!
March 26, 2008 at 1:44 am #619877
AnonymousInactiveOMG! So now I bring it on myself?!
That’s incredible. You, truly, are amazing!
I would appreciate that you stop encouraging me to “quit” my job, as you would. That is not an option, I love my job too much. As far as the discrimination I encounter, I could care less. These are angry people who I really just feel sorry for.
I’m simply pointing out that racism goes both ways. Oh, wait a minute, isn’t that what Obama said?
March 26, 2008 at 1:44 am #619878
JayDeeParticipantDear All:
I read the Seattle Weekly, see “Ask an Uptight Seattelite” and don’t read it, because I don’t think it is funny, and feel that it is inappropriate. But I can make that choice by not choosing to be insulted.
Secondly, I didn’t move up to Washington from some dreaded place to the south until TJs opened stores here. I am a secular humanist until TJs comes up. TJs gives one reasons to live, or rather, reasons to enjoy life. Like those little packets of multiple sponges. Your sponge is full of microbes, chuck it and get a new one. Yes, more solid waste, but enough with eco-guilt.
The wines are weird, and you may not have heard of them, but 2/3rds are good values,and finding the best requires skills and observational talents. The chips/salsa/wine even the lettuce are a deal and worth buying along with cheese. Oh, the cheese. Olive oil, vitamins/supplments are good too. I could go on, in the manner of a true believer, but I won’t.
But every religion has it’s bad parts — The prepared and frozen foods are a fat/cholesterol/sodium wasteland, not to mention eco-guilt land. Read the labels carefully, and don’t buy the farmed salmon, farmed shrimp, or rare species if you care about those things. And worse don’t buy, 3-buck Chuck. Friends don’t let friends drink 3 buck Chuck.
Feel free to resume off-topic rants; I will be driving to the Burien TJs until the powers in Germany (TJs is privately held) have the wisdom to select West Seattle as I did over a decade ago.
JayDee
March 26, 2008 at 1:45 am #619879
AnonymousInactiveJenV – LOL!
March 26, 2008 at 1:48 am #619880
barmargiaMemberyou know what I want in West Seattle, or Seattle anywhere? A Sonic drive in. I know it has nothing to do with Trader Joe’s but really, up to this point how much has?
March 26, 2008 at 1:54 am #619881
AnonymousInactiveOh, I’m dying here. JenV, funniest thing ever. And I want a Sonic too.
March 26, 2008 at 2:01 am #619882
KayleighMemberYes, I am actually amazing sometimes. Thanks for noticing.
So you have been the tragic victim of white racism, but you love your job and don’t care if people are bigoted against you. Illogical much?
Someday I hope to be as worldly and sophisticated as you are, and to leave West Seattle to go to Detroit and be hated upon. ‘Cause I ain’t never traveled nowhere.
/sarcasm off
//peace back on
March 26, 2008 at 3:34 am #619883
JanSParticipantSonic..In and Out…just no more Mickey D’s or JITB…I’ll even take a Kidd Valley…yumm…deep fried ‘shrooms.
I will second the Huling property for a TJ’s…now…how do we bribe the powers that be?
ladies…back to your corners :)
March 26, 2008 at 5:13 am #619884
AnonymousInactiveKayleigh, I, too, hope someday you are as worldly as me and then we can talk.
Peace.
barmargia – you’re post made me L-O-L!
March 26, 2008 at 5:38 am #619885
c@lbobMemberI don’t know if I can go the TJs anymore, so much food from other countries, seems like a racist spot to me. :^)
March 26, 2008 at 5:42 am #619886
c@lbobMemberBut, seriously, the drive to Burien in the rain Sunday was just a drag. I went there because I figured getting to the one in Queen Anne or on Madison would be worse because of the Viaduct closure.
Tjs could do very well in West Seattle, I think, and keep us all safer from traffic accidents. OMG, I’m sounding like a parochial West Seattleite. Bridge? I don’t need no stinkin’ bridge!
March 26, 2008 at 6:24 am #619887
AnonymousInactiveI want to retract my last post to Kayleigh. It was mean and snotty and not indicative of me at all. And I can’t sleep, leaving it like that.
I respect, Kayleigh, that we have differing opinions and that’s okay. It’s part of what makes the world interesting. And, let’s face it, it made for some interesting reading for some.
Anyways, I’m done with this topic, but still have respect for you, Kayleigh. I would hope that you wouldn’t think otherwise.
March 26, 2008 at 7:31 am #619888
charlabobParticipantNR, you are a woman of exceptional class. I’m glad I know you.
March 26, 2008 at 1:35 pm #619889
KayleighMemberApology not accepted.
March 26, 2008 at 2:18 pm #619890
c@lbobMemberYou know, people on blogs and such often say things that they wouldn’t in person, and sometimes they just don’t hear how their words will sound to another person. The lack of facial and body language feedback puts us all at a disadvantage in this regard when we type at each other.
It really isn’t worth it to hold a grudge, particularly on a community oriented board like this one.
NR isn’t what I’d call a laid-back personality, Kayleigh, but she’s a very nice person anyway. Please consider cutting her some slack.
March 26, 2008 at 2:27 pm #619891
GinaParticipantIn a dream world, one of the two McDonalds pulls out, and TJs takes over.
I like their plain vanilla meringue cookies. Thriftway and Metropolitan market carried some at one time, but now all I see are the microscopic ones, or watermelon and orange and cream flavors.
TJs also has the Barbara’s cereals in a big box, priced the same as the small boxes at the other supermarkets.
And they have the best individual sized pizzas!
March 26, 2008 at 2:39 pm #619892
KayleighMemberMarch 26, 2008 at 2:46 pm #619893
charlabobParticipantJust think what everyone who reads selectively is missing if they believe this thread is about TJs and skip over it.
March 26, 2008 at 5:09 pm #619894
andreaParticipantHaving opted out of posting any thoughts for the life of this threadthus far , I feel obligated to reiterate what catlbob said about NewRes…she is a genuinely nice and kind individual, and her apology in my opinion was unnecessary, though very classy nontheless…Kaliegh, I have never met you, nor do I think I ever want to based off of your posts in any thread on this blog…you are just plain MEAN and RUDE…and not even close to sarcastic enough…
March 26, 2008 at 5:14 pm #619895
beachdrivegirlParticipantI am backing you too NR!!! I know we got some into some heated discussions about traveling in another post and it never got to this level. Thanks for all your posts NR!!
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