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March 2, 2016 at 3:24 pm #835797
CO2isPlantFoodParticipantAn apparent slowing in the rise of global temperatures at the beginning of the twenty-first century, which is not explained by climate models, was referred to as a “hiatus” or a “pause” when first observed several years ago. Climate-change sceptics have used this as evidence that global warming has stopped. But in June last year, a study in Science claimed that the hiatus was just an artifact which vanishes when biases in temperature data are corrected.
Now a prominent group of researchers is countering that claim, arguing in Nature Climate Change that even after correcting these biases the slowdown was real.
March 2, 2016 at 4:31 pm #835803
JKBParticipantThe article CO2 refers to is http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v6/n3/full/nclimate2938.html
CO2: doing your job for you here – if you want to make statements about published research, it’s good form to show the citation. Post your links.
‘Nature Climate Change’ is not the same as the well-respected journal ‘Nature’. A quick Wiki troll says they’re published by the same company, suggesting they’re legit. I don’t know the precise relationship.
The article cited is in the “Commentaries” section of the most recent issue. It’s like a professional-quality letter to the editor, not a peer-reviewed paper. I looked up John Fyfe, the lead author. He’s a real person with actual credentials in the field. I did not try to read his history or evaluate whether there’s a political bias to his writing.
The public version of the article is just a one-paragraph abstract plus some charts. The abstract says: “It has been claimed that the early-2000s global warming slowdown or hiatus, characterized by a reduced rate of global surface warming, has been overstated, lacks sound scientific basis, or is unsupported by observations. The evidence presented here contradicts these claims.”
CO2 – do you have tho whole article? Is there a section you can quote – not to violate copyright, but as fair use – that explains the claim?
Because so far, you’ve actually said nothing but “somebody wrote a letter”.I should add that none of the positions or rebuttals in the article disagree with the evidence of ongoing warming. They’re quibbling about the rate at which it’s occurred.
- This reply was modified 8 years, 1 month ago by JKB. Reason: (added last paragraph "I should add...")
March 2, 2016 at 5:00 pm #835805
captainDaveParticipantIt would be nice if people gave up the socialist inspired environmentalism voodoo and started focusing on real conservation issues. It is a shame that real pollution issues are being overshadowed by innocuous CO2 emissions.
Centralized carbon control will turn the US and most of the world into a desperate burn-barel economy that has no ability to mitigate environmental damage.
March 2, 2016 at 9:03 pm #835821
JTBParticipantJKB, If you click on Read More in the OP then click on footnote #2 then click on “article” you can see the entire article. Ultimately it doesn’t provide anything to alter the opinions of several of the authors that the “pause” detected in the first part of this century isn’t long enough to alter long term projections. They actually seem a little amused by those who are getting excited. However, it does point to the scientific challenge of assessing the effects of human-caused greenhouse gas accumulation in relation to other factors affecting climate and climate change.
March 3, 2016 at 10:32 am #835870
JoBParticipantCO2isplantfood..
I am glad you can find articles somewhere that make you feel far more secure about what the rising ocean temperatures are currently doing to our weather…The new year arrived while we were still working out last year’s hurricane cycle….
and it’s not a coincidence.
March 3, 2016 at 10:39 am #835871
KBearParticipantYes, isn’t it nice that science gave us the internet, so people can spread their science-ignorant views?
March 3, 2016 at 5:06 pm #835906
JoBParticipanti was feeling feisty this morning… normally i ignore this poster but every once in a while the little snark in me peeks out…
i am glad someone takes the time to identify sources and counter the info but i don’t have the energy for this….
no matter how much good info is posted this particular poster just keeps posting away :(
March 4, 2016 at 1:22 am #835974
JanSParticipantand here I thought this was a thread about Menopause…silly me
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