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  • #818759

    laurelt
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    I’m Laurel, a West Seattle local currently seeking funding to create Ounces, a unique new, family-friendly craft brew pub in the Alaska Junction.

    I’m looking for investors (both equity and interest based), and also accepting donations thru my kickstarter campaign.

    You can learn more and donate at http://www.ounces-westseattle.com

    #828951

    Jeannie
    Participant

    Very nice, but with your stated focus of attracting “younger, hipper” consumers, will anyone over the age of 40 or I dare say 50 be permitted entrance? By the way, please learn the difference between “it’s” and “its.” I’m not trying to be a grammar slammer, but your misuse undermines credibility.

    #828952

    KBear
    Participant

    Your rite about the spelling, Genie. Also, how will pets be welcomed without violating health codes? Outdoor areas year round? Sounds like you’re trying to accommodate smokers. Gross. We don’t need another place to drink beer in the Junction. Unless you’re going to brew beer or offer new food options, I don’t see what distinguishes you from existing businesses.

    #828953

    wsea98116
    Participant

    Laurel, sorry about those negative grammar slammers. (Gee whiz- who put dog poop in their recycle bin?!)

    Good luck on your endeavor!

    #828954

    laurelt
    Participant

    Hello All—and thank you for the comments and feedback!

    Wanted to address some of your comments around the business concept:

    – of course, all ages will be welcome! Yes, main target market will be a slightly younger crowd (25-40), but only because these are the folks who are most likely to frequent this sort of business…and also because this is the age group in which West Seattle is seeing the most growth. I’m 31 and want a place where I can feel comfortable bringing my parents or my younger nieces & nephews — that is the concept behind Ounces.

    – Definitely not accommodating smokers, but people who want to be outside and enjoy a great beer in the great outdoors. Concept is not a bar, and will not attract “the bar crowd”.

    – We’re different for many reasons:

    We’ll be the only craft beer place serving 30+ local taps of micro-brews & ciders that is open to the under 21 crowd (& pets), plus there is no year-round outdoor space anywhere. AND…unlike other craft beer bars, we will have a food menu (in addition to the “bring your own” food concept employed by our competitors.

    Also sharing an article that was just posted:

    http://craftbeermonger.com/2015/11/10/ounces-is-coming-to-west-seattle/

    Thanks again for your support!

    #828955

    Sue
    Participant

    laurelt, I wish you the best in your endeavor. I am curious, however, how different you are from Elliot Bay Brewery in terms of variety of beer, food and the under 21 crowd. I know you mentioned pets and the outdoor area (which EBB doesn’t have), but it does seem like a very similar business model for the Junction.

    #828956

    Curate
    Participant

    Hi! Cool! Do you have an “Alaska Junction” location finalized/under contract? I took a quick look at your site, your KS page, and your overview packet (PDF) and couldn’t find details on that.

    #828957

    miws
    Participant

    Curate, in case Laurel can’t get back here for awhile, when I checked her link yesterday, there were mentions somewhere in there, that they are still looking for a specific/”best” location.

    Maybe readers/potential customers could input if Laurel wishes? And I mean nicely, and supportively.

    Mike

    #828958

    HelperMonkey
    Participant

    I fail to see how this is a new or unique business for the Alaska Junction. Aside from allowing dogs, which you’re going to have issues with if you’re preparing food onsite. There is already a: Craft Beers + Dogs + bring your own food (Beveridge Place Pub) Craft Beers + Food + Kids (Elliott Bay Brewpub) Dogs + ?? (The Hydrant). If you want to propose this “new and unique business” you should try the Admiral Junction, which might benefit from something like this. Alaska Junction and Morgan Junction are already covered with businesses just exactly like this, excepting that they’re already in business and not asking for handouts to get started. What about the old Brickyard location in the Admiral Junction? That would be perfect as it already has a great outdoor area.

    #828959

    KBear
    Participant

    Sounds like it all depends on how unique the outdoor aspect of it is.

    #828960

    Huindekmi
    Participant

    As others have pointed out, allowing dogs and cooking/serving food aren’t very compatible. If you’re serving food, dogs won’t be allowed IN your establishment. Legally, the closest you’ll be able to do is to have outdoor seating and allow dogs outside the fence to your outdoor seating area.

    As far as craft beers on tap + kids + food, there are quite a few of those locations around. In addition to those already listed, there’s Circa and Copper Coin in the Admiral Junction.

    #828961

    karl j
    Participant

    Well, I think Laurelt’s idea would be different form Elliott Bay in that their thirty taps are significantly more. AND, it’s brew and cider from around the region, not their own brews. She could set her place apart by offering a more diverse selection of beer varieties. More and more big beer drinkers I know are tiring of the overly hopped crap IPAs that dominate the menus at Elliott Bay and The Bev.

    #828962

    skeeter
    Participant

    Hi Laurel. I love your idea! I will be an “investor” $5 at a time, if you know what I mean!

    After reading your investor packet I have a question. What types of investors are you looking for? Equity/capital investors? Or lenders? Or both? I ask because sometimes the wording in your package sounds more like a capital-based investor (shared ownership) but other places it sounds like you are looking more for lenders who would be paid back on a schedule. I just want to understand the “big picture” in your plan.

    Excited to see how this shakes out!

    #828963

    wakeflood
    Participant

    Pours out, Skeeter. Pours. ;-)

    #828964

    wsea98116
    Participant

    Have you considered designating the planters, railings and doorways as co-species urinals? I’m sure many of the patrons would relish the opportunity to bond with their pets by urinating with them, side by side- all over your establishment. (Excuse me for being clueless, if another westside business is already doing this..)

    #828965

    karl j
    Participant

    Wow. What witty snark you have, wsea98116.

    I don’t think any other westside business has adopted your model, but you are indeed clueless. It’s no wonder why the forums aren’t used by more people.

    #828966

    JanS
    Participant

    karl j…agreed. All these people ready to crap on this woman’s dream before she gets started…wow

    #828967

    wsea98116
    Participant

    Oops! Do these places have dog bathrooms or something? I didn’t know!

    Now I’m embarrassed.. I just figured after a big slurpy bowl of water (between a couple of beers), pet keeper would let his dog just far enough out the front door to pee all over whatever was there, before hurrying back to his darts.. Sorry!

    #828968

    karl j
    Participant

    wsea98116, you just can’t stop flaunting your cluelessness. You should really stop.

    #828969

    wsea98116
    Participant

    C’mon Karl- I’m not trying to be mean. We’re discussing a pub with dogs, right? There are so many health regulations for businesses, and as an avid WS side-walker, I’m just trying to understand. I read that food trucks need a hard-plumbed bathroom for employees, and I know pubs have to have certain kinds of sinks, and bathrooms- even a sign telling me to wash my hands! So, help me out Karl- how does this work?

    #828970

    Curate
    Participant

    Wow, another thread on the blog co-opted by snark about dogs. Shocking.

    #828971

    shihtzu
    Participant

    I think this is a great idea! I’m curious though where it is going to be. It would need to have a big outside area to make it work.

    Have you ever been to the brewery on the trail in Kenmore? It has such an awesome outdoor area and welcomes dogs, kids, etc.

    Also, there is a place in Plano, TX called the Katy Trail Icehouse that is kind of this idea. Dogs and kids allowed, good food and drinks and a neat atmosphere.

    I think there are plenty of customers in West Seattle. You only hear from the uptight Seattlites here it seems…

    Good luck! If I knew more and was more comfortable with investing in businesses I would definitely support this idea.

    #828972

    wsea98116
    Participant

    You’re right, Curate- and even though I think the dog accommodation dealio is far more relevant here than say, grammar or punctuation- I don’t want to hijack the thread. So, I’ll defer. Now let’s tap those kegs!

    #828973

    Sunuva
    Participant

    I like the sound of a big open outdoor space that allows children! Yeah, there’s a ton of places to drink craft beer in WS but I would appreciate another one that allows children. Many of my former favorite establishments are 21+ so I’ve have had to find other places to go with kid in tow.

    Also, Elliott Bay and Talarico’s often have a very long wait. It would be nice to have more options rather than having to stand on the sidewalk for 30+ minutes because the only places that allow kids are packed to the brim. I wish them luck with this idea and will see if I can budget in a little contribution.

    #828974

    Greystreet
    Participant

    Laurelt I love this idea, if I wasn’t a poor grad student I would love to contribute…ignore the haters on your vision, you don’t need their patronage or criticisms for wanting to create something you have passion for! I hope it goes well!

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