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June 9, 2008 at 5:04 am #587161
TheHouseMemberWho would be interested in setting up a place to meet in the next few weeks for members of the straight community?
I get so crazy thinking about all the sub-cultures in our group (single straight man, single straight woman, married man, married woman, widow, widower, single mom, single dad, or breeder). I was at a conference and we debated whether we should be called SSMSSWMMMWWWSMSDB. It’ rather comical.
Just to clarify:
This is a meeting for a specific community here in West Seattle and not a general meeting of the folks here on the West Seattle Blog who are just interested in meeting new friends. I was simply trying to add clarification that this was not a meet up in general but a meet up for a specific section of the WS community the same as if a group of knitters or gardeners got together with a common interest.
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Let me know if anyone is down?
June 9, 2008 at 5:17 am #626941
austinMembervive la difference! Come on by House, we have a beer for you.
June 9, 2008 at 5:20 am #626942
AnonymousInactiveHouse – I’m there. Just tell me when and where!
Thank you so much for doing this for the community, I really appreciate it!
June 9, 2008 at 5:21 am #626943
charlabobParticipantI think there’s already such a group, nationally — young republicans :-)
June 9, 2008 at 5:25 am #626944
AnonymousInactiveHouse, will you still let me join if I act straight :)
June 9, 2008 at 5:29 am #626945
ErikParticipantThanks House, you do much to bring this community together!
Charla – I’m neither young (not as olde as you) nor a republican (nor a democrat). :-)~
June 9, 2008 at 5:45 am #626946
GenHillOneParticipantHowwwwse….(finger wagging) ;)
June 9, 2008 at 6:09 am #626947
JanSParticipantbiting my tongue …
June 9, 2008 at 1:36 pm #626948
JenVMemberhow about a meet up just for elitist pot-stirrers? House, you could chair! way to go! you should be really proud of yourself for being straight and white!
June 9, 2008 at 4:08 pm #626949
TheHouseMemberSome of you act like bugs flying into a bug zapper.
I said nothing about politics or being white.
Jen, you’ve proven time and time again that you cannot intelligently speak on any topic without bringing up extraneous accusations (ie, racist, elitist, being white). Ignorance is bliss isn’t it?
June 9, 2008 at 4:49 pm #626950
JenVMemberYou get on here just to stir the pot. Big deal, the LGBT community is having a get together. Why did you feel the need to piss all over that? What does it have to do with you? But you feel the need to get on here, and belittle it with your jokes. But your jokes aren’t jokey- you’re mean spirited and seem to make fun of people just to make yourself look better. I have no time for people like you in my life- or the people who suffer your kind of foolishness gladly. People like you make me want to not get involved in my community, because people like you just make me hate people.
June 9, 2008 at 4:54 pm #626951
JimmyGMemberLuckily not everyone in the world who has ever disagreed with another person has decided they won’t get involved because not everyone agrees with them.
Part of making our way in this world is realizing that we may adamantly disagree with another, yet allowing them to express their opinion.
The attitude of taking your bat and ball and going home is immature and defeatist.
June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm #626952
missaudreyhorneParticipantI realize that this post is meant to provoke thought and to express an opinion, but why does it have to be done in such a facetious way? JT’s post on the subject encourages constructive debate, while this one seems to encourage needless arguing. I know that you didn’t specifically say anything negative, but that is the vibe I get. I just don’t know why it always has to be like that around here. I suppose that is why I mostly lurk.
June 9, 2008 at 5:02 pm #626953
TheHouseMemberI almost copied the original post verbatim, only changing the gay to straight.
It’s predictable that some of you view my statement as negative, but the original post as positive.
It was simply an exercise to make some people think. My bad for assuming that everyone can do that.
Congrats to missaudreyhorne, JimmyG and JT. I owe you all beers!
June 9, 2008 at 5:26 pm #626954
AnonymousInactiveHouse – I don’t know if you realized what I was trying to point out in the LGBT thread, but you pretty much hit it right on the nose starting this thread.
I don’t see this thread as a joke or to be making fun of the LGBT get together. This thread, for a straight get together, was simply a thinking point.
Think about it. And, of course, please read JT’s post in the new thread titled “Politics”. It could not have been explained more eloquently!
June 9, 2008 at 6:30 pm #626955
soclwrkrinmotnMember*thinks*
Huh. If I recall from a few forums ago, the House likened gay marriage to marrying a pet, and to transguys as women. Yeah. Sorry, JT, although I would LOVE to agree with the non-need of a safe space, as a transman of color, who still gets called names on the streets of Seattle, I disagree. And right now, this rather proves my point. And NR, ask instead of trying to make a point. I think charabob pointed it all out once before.
Whereas I am open to an “queer folk and allies” I really have to point out this: there is an element of the LGBTQ community that has to be careful in “outing” themselves. That’s the “T” (I have a big open mouth, but others may live stealth in this community)…and that’s another reason why a safe space may be needed.
House: check your privilege. You can marry. You can get medical treatment crucial to your well-being covered by insurance, you don’t get stopped for driving while______.
Besides, it is to me you owe the drink. Debate with me, face to face.
June 9, 2008 at 6:41 pm #626956
JenVMemberSo House and NR- it’s ok to be mean to people, as long as I put it under the guise of “making people think”. gotcha. I’ll remember that in the future.
Here’s a thinking point:
nah, nevermind. it’s too easy.
House, you didn’t do this to “make people think” and you know it. You did it to get under people’s skin, ruffle their feathers, inject your own admittedly homophobic thinking into a topic that had NOTHING to do with you. You know what? I am not LGBT, so I ignored that thread. It was not meant for me. Same goes with the gardening posts- I am not a gardener. When the older ladies had a get together- did anyone whine that they weren’t invited due to their age? No, the people who had nothing to do with it simply ignored it. I didn’t get on the board and post something mean and snarky because a group that I had nothing to do with didn’t invite me. Nor did I, like NR, INSIST that I be invited into something that has nothing to do with me.
House and NR can go on patting each others little backs all day. and if they don’t invite me to their clubhouse, I think I might post on this board and whine about it under the guise of “making people think”
June 9, 2008 at 6:57 pm #626957
KayleighMemberYuck.
Hey Jen, I guess “making people think” means “insulting them and berating them for not thinking like me.” Interesting, huh?
Now I’ll crawl back into my repressed existence as a white hetero middle class American chick. Boy howdy, it’s hard bein’ me…;-)
June 9, 2008 at 7:10 pm #626958
soclwrkrinmotnMemberKayleigh, forgive me for asking, but it is okay when other folks do it? I didn’t read JenV’s response that way. It was an exasperated post, yes, but it made the point that other people were feeling insulted or belittled by this behavior. I was annoyed myself, although on the whole, do understand–and as a general rule–agree with JT’s point…and took it as “hey, is this really necessary?” Unfortunately, it is. And these going ons are evidence of why.
And JenV did make a valid point: why is this such an issue with some folks? I don’t garden and didn’t attend the gardening shindigs, nor did I care to. Elders wish to have a get-together? Wonderful. So…why’s this such a hot button topic?
June 9, 2008 at 7:21 pm #626959
KayleighMemberSorry, Soc, I was agreeing with JenV. In a sarcastic way, which didn’t translate well.
If anyone in the LGBT community seeks a safe place to gather, I understand and do not feel left out or resentful. And if anyone in the LGBT community does *not* feel the need for a safe place, I respsect that as well.
June 9, 2008 at 7:33 pm #626960
soclwrkrinmotnMemberWell, in my line of work, I have to forget about sarcasm. (because you’d see a social worker go ‘way bad.) I actually took you literally. My bad. I think I owe you an apology.
And a beer, since I won’t waste more of my $ buying the House a drink, because he won’t debate in person. (But he will call me a “whatever,” which, in truth, suits me fine.)
June 9, 2008 at 7:50 pm #626961
KayleighMemberNah, I apologize for assuming the world is as non-literal as I am.
The galling thing to me about conservatives is their seeming lack of understanding of another’s very real life experience, while simultaneously insisting that their *own* life experience be acknowledged (as though the white straight American experience gets no validation on TV, movies, pop culture, the corner bar, textbooks etc, hm?) ;-)
Anytime, soc…
June 9, 2008 at 8:22 pm #626962
TheHouseMemberDon’t worry about me debating in person…..I am more than happy to debate in person (not sure why soclwrkrinmotn states I wouldn’t).
Like I stated already, it was simply an exercise in thinking and nothing more. Everything else that was I’m being accused of is simply that…thanks once again for being so tolerant.
PS…homophobic literally means fear of homosexuality. I don’t have any issue with anyone that is homosexual or heterosexual…I view people as people, not based on who they love/screw. Just chalk that up as another term JenV has decided to tag me with.
I can’t wait for Saturday….it should be a jolly time.
June 9, 2008 at 8:47 pm #626963
JenVMember…and since I make it a rule to never break bread or share beer with anyone I dislike, I will most likely be opting out of the festivities on Saturday. You just want to show up to argue. I wanted to show up to meet new people, hang out and have a few beers…not argue with people I normally wouldn’t waste breath on in real life.
And House, there are a thousand or more words I could use to tag you with. But, I won’t waste any further of my time.
Oh, and you’re not invited either. This is a meetup for NICE people whi just want to get to know other NICE people. Why don’t you start your own meetup for nasty folks. I promise I wont whine about not being invited.
June 9, 2008 at 9:10 pm #626964
RSMemberJenV, I’m struggling with this as well and it some ways I totally agree with you. But I still think there are lots of nice people out there who don’t want to make trouble and just want to meet new people. I also don’t want to let those who shout the loudest (so to speak) be the voices that define this community. You were one of the people that I was hoping to meet so I hope you’ll change your mind about Saturday!
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