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July 29, 2016 at 8:17 am #852604
JoBParticipantJKB… i know the thread was dead..
but i have a question for you…Who owns the major news sources in America
and which political parties do they support?if we are going to talk about news bias.. shouldn’t we follow the money?
July 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm #852657
JKBParticipantI didn’t do all the ownership research (a good idea though – ‘follow the money’ is usually good advice) but did make a list. Turn your head sideways and it reads from ‘left’ to ‘right’
Huffington Post
Facebook
Washington Post
NPR
CBS
PBS
ABC
BBC
NBC
Fox News
NewsMax
BreitbartIf nothing else, it does cover quite a spectrum. Perhaps ‘bias’ should be reserved for entities pretending to be neutral.
July 29, 2016 at 7:27 pm #852666
JoBParticipantJKB.. follow the money
the spectrum isn’t as wide as you might thinkincluding facebook as a news source i a bit deceptive though.. don’t you think?
they don’t generate content and the content you receive is filtered through your personal likes and dislikes .. so not quite the same playing field, is it?July 29, 2016 at 8:16 pm #852674
JKBParticipantA lot of people these days report Facebook as their primary source of news. And neither its story selection algorithms nor the Zuckerberg himself are neutral.
I think FB belongs alongside AP and Reuters – not an original source, but a medium with an editorial agenda.
July 30, 2016 at 7:21 am #852731
JoBParticipantOk. i am confused..
although i think it’s possible that Zuckerburg has an agenda..
i don’t think it is editorial..how do you create an editorial agenda in a medium where the articles are posted by participants and chosen via that selection algorithm you mention for viewing by participants?
that’s like saying google has an editorial agenda because their algorithm gives preference to material like that which you have already chosen to view.
As someone who prefers the broadest range of information possible i have a problem with those alogrithms.. but i understand that advertising and ratings drive them.. not ideology.
August 1, 2016 at 7:52 am #852920
JoBParticipantfacebook.. what you see is not necessarily what i got
http://graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed/August 1, 2016 at 9:36 am #852932
AdmiralJanewayParticipantInteresting list of news organizations and newspapers. I would put NY Times in the same slot as Washington Post. CNN somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
August 2, 2016 at 5:45 am #853029
redblackParticipantjim lehrer was the original host of news hour.
no troll here, pal. i was merely attempting to get you to engage in meaningful discussion of your own topic instead of bullying and pedentry.
nothing doing, huh?
August 3, 2016 at 5:48 pm #853220
JKBParticipantRedblack, please do not address me again. Your repeated attacks are not a conversation that I’ll participate in.
August 3, 2016 at 7:41 pm #853227
redblackParticipantfair enough.
but i would like to address the topic… if it pleases the court, of course.
a previous post in this thread listed “news” organizations in a left-right/liberal-conservative order in terms of following the money, who owns what, how they are perceived, political agenda, etc. i found the list a little naïve, but i understand the perception.
most glaring to me, though, was the omission of c-span in that list. imho, c-span should be dead center in terms of american political news bent, advertising funding (0%), and the political influence that ad money purchases.
and no one can deny their 24/7 dedication to journaling what happens in american government.
if i recall correctly, c-span is still funded by $.01 on every cable and satellite bill issued in the u.s. that seems about right to me as a funding model.
the ubiquitous laissez-faire media (and PBS has been creeping that way for decades) is way more expensive, way more biased, and it largely looks like a vehicle for weird pharma and car advertising.
no, c-span isn’t sexy. while it listens to and broadcasts average americans’ political views through call-ins, it really is indifferent to political persuasion and sensationalist corporate editorials.
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August 4, 2016 at 4:13 pm #853316
metrognomeParticipantredblack – while you’re at it, don’t forget the state, county and local gov’t channels. even tho the original list was for national outlets, a heck of a lot more actually happens at the state and local level, esp. given the Congressional vow to obstruct Pres. Obama as much as possible during his terms.
I’d be curious how people rate local tv and radio stations as well as local newspapers.
on the national front, I’m beginning to read rumors that Fox may significantly move away from its 24/7/365 conservative format now that Roger ‘See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me’ Ailes is gone. Several of the hosts, including Billo, have allegedly threatened to leave. Interesting that the liberal, lamestream media has pretty much ignored this scandal.
August 5, 2016 at 9:21 am #853394
newnativeParticipantThe list above includes Facebook (which has varying degrees of self-referential coverage) and mostly cable news, the online versions are extensions of that cable news network. Completely missing are printed periodicals, magazines and journals.
Elaborating on metrognome’s point on local affliates, I have noticed local Fox is one of the most transparent/liberal news sources on broadcast tv, despite being part of the Fox family. Go figure.
Right Wing people (I won’t say all Conservatives) complain about the Liberal Media but that fails to acknowledge how people generally only surround themselves with like-minded media. It’s all biased to varying degrees.August 5, 2016 at 3:11 pm #853421
redblackParticipanti generally get most of my news from local stations. maybe TR can confirm this, but it feels like local affiliates have stricter standards on biased reportage than their parent networks do.
this is probably the result of them being available freely over the air, without cable or satellite subscriptions. maybe it’s cynical, but i think that if there’s no profit motive, the parent networks won’t bother bending perceptions on the local level.
and i agree with metrognome that the seattle channels and king county tee vee do wonderful jobs. imho, the best news is local – just like produce, dairy, and beer.
WSB, too. if a particular topic (like gun control and random domestic terror attacks) affects the nation, you can bet that your neighbors are talking about how it affects our community.
i’m short on time at the moment, but there’s much more to be said about left-right bias and media consolidation, too. for example, comcast’s controlling interest in nbc/universal. i challenge anyone to tell me with a straight face that there’s no taint of corporate bias there – especially when it comes to topics like net neutrality, which is a media bias issue at its core.
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