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April 28, 2008 at 12:37 am #586836
TheHouseMemberSince the Dems are going to fight tooth and nail all the way into the Democratic Convention this year and will most likely have to come to some back room agreement as to who will represent them, I feel that we should discuss who McCain will select to run with him on the ticket.
Personally, I’d like to have former Sen. Fred Thompson run with him but I realize that he’ll most likely need to strategically select a VP that would slam dunk the Dems (ie a woman or African American). Sen. Hutchinson from Texas or Condi Rice would probably be the smart picks although Condi is still thought of as being a Bush sympathizer.
Your thoughts?
April 28, 2008 at 1:35 am #623196
JanSParticipantoh, yeah…fred thompson…TV “star”. Condi has denied over and over that she’s interested…has blatently said no thanks..think she’s lying? Condi lusts after George, not sure why. She’s definitely a Bush sympathizer. I’ll try to find some things that she’s said about him in the past…may be a scavenger hunt, as JoB says.
I’m not real familiar with Sen. Hutchinson. Ladies Home Journal in 2001 named her as one of the 30 most powerful women in the US. McCain could certainly do worse, I suppose.
I realize as a “lib” that my opinion doesn’t really count with you…but..it’s probably time that they all started thinking about running mates…
April 28, 2008 at 1:44 am #623197
JanSParticipantwow…I read further…she doesn’t want to be VP either… “Hutchison’s name has been circulated as a possible Vice-Presidential candidate for Republican John McCain. Her strong record as a conservative, female politician from the Southwest could induce the GOP to add her name to the ticket in an effort to balance any perceived gender gap between the parties, particularly if Hillary Clinton were to get the Democratic nomination for the Presidency in 2008. When on ABC’s This Week, Hutchinson said “I think that Sen. McCain has a lot of options, I think he has to look at a lot of different factors. I don’t want to be vice president.”[10] – from Wikipedia…
guess it’s not the ideal job, huh….
April 28, 2008 at 2:10 am #623198
JoBParticipanti think it will be hard to find anyone from the republican party who steps up to say they want to be McCain’s VP…
the most obvious choices say they won’t take it…
think he’ll run alone? .. he he he
maybe Lieberman?
now that would be a hoot!
April 28, 2008 at 2:25 am #623199
JanSParticipantthat is not out of the realm of possibilities, is it, House?
we need to hear from more Repubs out there…what do you all think out there? You ARE out there, aren’t you?
April 28, 2008 at 2:27 am #623200
JoBParticipantthey are out there.. they surface on other threads:)
April 28, 2008 at 3:37 pm #623201
walfredoMemberHillary would be a good choice. He’s already pissed the base of his party off, why not get it over with? The scary black man hates America, pick us and you won’t be killed by wolves at 3 AM…
They already agree on Iraq, and gas taxes for infrastructure. It would be be a good fit.
“He can’t win!” Hillary Clinton… It’s an inspiring message.
April 28, 2008 at 5:59 pm #623202
JoBParticipantWalfredo…
i know your brain has misted over just a bit with Obamamania.. but regardless of the campaign hype trying to paint her as anything but..
Hillary is a democrat.
sorry for breaking this carefully kept secret.
April 28, 2008 at 6:07 pm #623203
TheHouseMemberNice emotional liberal rant, Walfredo.
We’re not afraid of Obama, we’re afraid that people like you make your decisions based on stupidity and unfounded statements and can possibly place someone in the White House that doesn’t belong there.
Let’s get back to a serious conversation.
April 28, 2008 at 6:18 pm #623204
walfredoMemberJoB- I can’t imagine any democrat campaigning with the tactics that she uses. She as much a democrat as Joe Lieberman- who is also a VP candidate for Senator McCain.
I think Hillary sees her opening in 2012, and wouldn’t jeapordize that by jumping on the McCain ticket. She will do whatever she possibly can to tear down the democratic nominee, and hope no one remembers when she runs again in 4 years. It’s tough to watch…
But it would be hard to argue watching her ads, and statements that I noted above, that she is anything but a John McCain/George Bush/Karl Rove-full fledged member of the politics of fear and division…
April 28, 2008 at 6:18 pm #623205
AnonymousInactiveThank you, House.
April 28, 2008 at 6:47 pm #623206
JoBParticipantWalfredo..
you are entitled to your opinion..
but house is right.. it is just a rant…
i wouldn’t be watching for her in the republican caucus if i were you…
but you sure might find Joe there…
tho somehow i can’t see that party putting him on the platform without repainting his stripes…
TheHouse..
a rant is just a rant.. nothing particularly liberal about Walfredo’s…
i will be glad to provide you with one of those.. one of these days very soon:)
in the meantime… is there anyone Republicans would be excited to see on the platform with McCain?
April 28, 2008 at 6:58 pm #623207
charlabobParticipantDoesn’t anyone remember Zell Miller? His stripes were not repainted. It’s amazing how little history we seem to remember, and how selective that memory is.
I personally think the Repugs are going to have a hard time finding someone they can stand, since their presidential candidate, who flip-flops dizzily and forgets on Wednesday what he said on Monday, isn’t in tune with any of the other candidates.
I vote for Fred Thompson — Thompson and McCain; sleepy and dopey, the two most forgettable dwarves.
April 28, 2008 at 7:18 pm #623208
JanSParticipantlol..Charla…
House…I read a bit more about the good senator from Texas…she’s not without a past that could come under scrutiny, too…
April 28, 2008 at 7:30 pm #623209
AnonymousInactiveTo the Republicans: what is defining your VP choice? Some conservatives think McCain is too moderate, some think he’s more conservative than Bush. Are you looking for a balance (or mirror) of policy? Are you concerned about age/health and want someone younger? Or is it about who can win states McCain can’t?
April 29, 2008 at 3:41 am #623210
TheHouseMemberJT, good question but I’d have to say that personally I could care less about age, sex, health or religion. I don’t think you’ll find many Conservatives that disagree that McCain will be excellent when it comes to foreign relations, military expertise, work ethic and like-ability. His downside is his age (like I said I don’t care), his domestic experience (20+ years in the Senate, but this isn’t his strength…just look at campaign reform) and the fact that he’s shut out the religious side of the party (something I think holds some merit, but I’ll save this for another discussion).
So, what I would like is someone who is grounded in domestic policy or perhaps a legal background, someone who can bridge the gap between the young generation that has been taught to hate Conservative thinking, or/and someone that can reinvigorate the position that quite frankly has sucked for many years (Cheney, Gore, Qualye).
Basically, I’m telling him to select me.
April 29, 2008 at 3:57 am #623211
JanSParticipantHouse…a question….you say he has shut out the religious sector of the Repubs…what about his “relationship” with John Hagee? What are your feelings about that/him?
April 29, 2008 at 3:59 am #623212
JanSParticipantohhh..Dan Quayle….where is he now?
April 29, 2008 at 5:33 am #623213
AnonymousInactiveHouse, what you’re describing, I’d rather see on the top of your ticket. Well, except the promoting conservatism part:) Do you have someone in mind? This link has a mini interactive of possibilities.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/27/possible.vice.presidents/
April 29, 2008 at 6:56 am #623214
westwoodMemberWhen you look at the great link JT provides you will notice that out of 25 candidates, only 3 are not tired old white guys. Condi, who probably doesn’t want to do it and at the end of the day is too close to Bush. Bobby Jindal, of Louisiana who is a rising star, but probably not the choice of the conservatives in the party because of their own racial fears. And Sen. Hutchinson, who doesn’t want to do it.
So, who will those R’s pick? Well, someone youngish, probably in their 40’s. McCain was too old eight years ago. They have to balance the ticket generationally.
A second determining factor will be who can help the Republicans win in the electoral vote. Most analysts show the D’s with a larger base to start with. The D’s lead with about 230 electoral votes right now, with the R’s at about 170 safer votes. So the Republican slope is mighty steep and they need someone to help pick off a few states. Most of the Mountain West is not safe and the Pacific Coast is solidly Democratic with about 70 electoral votes. The R’s are in trouble in swing states like Missouri, Florida, Ohio, Tennessee and Virginia.
Finally, the Republicans must take care of the evangelical Christians in the party. Republicans have ruled the White House 20 out of the past 28 years. For that entire time they have been the party of big business and big money, slashing taxes and checks and balances. Meanwhile they keep stringing the evangelicals along promising to do something about abortion, stopping the gays, and so much more. They have no intention of actually doing so, because they would doom the party to minority status because we would be locking up normal Americans like you and I. But they do need to keep the base happy, so don’t be surprised if it is Huckabee or someone of his ilk.
But Republicans are not known for bold choices. They will choose a modern Dan Quayle who is nice, safe, male, and vanilla white. The contrast between them and a party that will choose between the first woman in the White House or a visionary African-American will forever ring with America’s increasingly diverse population.
But Cheney would be okay with me too :)
April 29, 2008 at 7:38 am #623215
JanSParticipantApril 29, 2008 at 1:44 pm #623216
charlabobParticipantNo, House, the younger generation hasn’t been taught to hate conservative thinking. There is a large chunk of them who got to post-conservative and post-liberal by thinking! Nice try at sneaking in a lame-ass talking point. But, fortunately some of us can still read.
April 29, 2008 at 2:42 pm #623217
beachdrivegirlParticipantI will tell you what, House, if you are selecteed as McCains running mate I will vote for you…. hoenstly how could i not?
May 2, 2008 at 9:33 pm #623218
Tonya42MemberWell, John Bolton would be fantastic.
May 3, 2008 at 12:08 am #623219
charlabobParticipantno no no (wish I had audio) JOHN BOLTON!!!!!!
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