December 26, 2012 at 5:03 am #606028
just wondering if anyone knows how many people are booked into king co jail for a homicide related charge.
I know but just wondering if anyone else does.December 26, 2012 at 8:54 am #780842December 26, 2012 at 9:29 am #780843
Sorry, way off. We barely have one murder a WEEK in King County. 2011 stats here:
54 countywide in 2011.
Not sure why TJB is throwing out the question but if you want to be worried about violent deaths … worry about the violent deaths that people inflict upon themselves. Five times as many suicides as murders … 265 in King County last year.
And if it’s a trick question, obviously even fewer people are booked for homicide, since not all cases are solved.
TRDecember 26, 2012 at 7:03 pm #780844
I threw it out there because when I found out I was shocked
It between 4 and 5 per day.December 26, 2012 at 7:13 pm #780845
Whomever told you that is wrong. As I noted above, with a link – there is one homicide PER WEEK in King County. Maybe 4 or 5 suspects booked a MONTH, assuming all those homicides yield suspects. – TRDecember 26, 2012 at 7:25 pm #780846
What I said was homicide related charges
and I don’t think its wrongDecember 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm #780847December 26, 2012 at 7:35 pm #780848
All of the homicides and suicides added together don’t even come close to the 1,800 annual deaths in King County from cigarette smoking. That’s about one out of every five deaths in King County each year.December 26, 2012 at 7:38 pm #780849December 26, 2012 at 7:47 pm #780850
(sigh) this is so easy. 1 homicide a week, with 35 people responsible would give you 5 arrests per day. duh.December 26, 2012 at 7:53 pm #780851
Some are out of state warrants and some cold case ect.
I didn’t intend to make a big issue of it.I was reading last night and thought it was an interesting factDecember 27, 2012 at 8:56 am #780852December 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm #780853
yeah. kind of confusing when the very topic asks “how many homicides per day.”
i might be inclined to believe that there are 4 or 5 gun related charges per day. not only do we have a lot of cities in king county, we also have a lot of high country, hillbillies, and hunting.
i’ll second what datamuse said: where did you read that, tjb?December 27, 2012 at 2:35 pm #780854
You can read it on the booking list.. I’ve been reading it for the last several monthsDecember 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm #780855
Although TJB failed to explain what they meant by “homicide related charges”, I’ll take a shot at it (very punny!): what if we were to consider all charges of homicide, manslaughter, and accessory?
Using WSB source, if you add up the Traffic Accident deaths, Homicides, and Undetermined you’ll get 0.7 deaths/day, or about 4 per week.
Looking around the county prosecutor’s site, I can’t find any sort of statistics (and I’m not surprised). But I’m not readily finding anything with a Google search either.December 27, 2012 at 6:49 pm #780856
I read the jail register for a living. Among other information sources. I also want to make sure that if people are discussing local statistics here, that they are not inaccurate. No, there are NOT multiple homicide bookings per day. Of any kind. Out of state, cold case, local, what have you. But don’t take my word for it. Here’s the definitive source – the King County Jail register.
You can select the “booked within the last 24 hours” option at any time. It’s one way we search for suspect names in major cases, since police reports are not available in detail immediately. I wind up having to read it at least three times a week. You can see the alleged crime right on each page (if it says MULTIPLE, click the plus sign to open). No bookings in the past 24 hours for homicide of any kind, nor even manslaughter, and that’s the way it usually is. Even if it were a “cold case” or a warrant from out of the area, they go to KCJ, and they show up on the jail register.
Unfortunately there is no easy search such as “all inmates booked for homicide.” You have to scan the entire register. And you can do that for every inmate in there if you want to count how many are being held for homicide, whether booked in the past week or month or even year (takes a long time to get to trial and you are held in KCJ till trial, no transfer to state prison until and unless you are convicted).
Would do the count myself right now but I can’t spare the half-hour or so that would take – I’m working on a front-page story.
TRDecember 28, 2012 at 5:48 am #780857
redblackParticipantDecember 28, 2012 at 4:30 pm #780858December 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm #780859
As the slumping batter said, “that’s why they call it an average”.
Also they ran a spot about Chicago reaching 500:
Chicago had 20x the murders that Seattle did, against a little over 4x the population.
And a spot about NYC having the fewest murders since 1963 when reliable records apparently began.
NYC is at 16x our body count, with 13x the population.
One lesson of all this seems to be that the numbers fluctuate quite a bit. If single-year data for large cities goes up and down that much, the little spike we had early this year was never a significant stat. Important for those involved, but not an indicator of some broader pattern.
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