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June 10, 2008 at 1:43 am #587168
AnonymousInactiveI realize that, like all things lately, more will be read into this than there really is, but I have to get this off my chest!
Debates ensued in other threads and I can’t help but feel responsible for this. I think this may be because several people have literally accused me of causing the mess.
Think whatever you want, but I honestly started out asking about the LGBT get-together because I genuinely wanted to come.
When I felt that is was being made clear I *really* wasn’t welcome (at least at the first gathering), I did feel a little hurt, left out. (Sorry, I’m a girl and I have my sensitive moments).
Therefore, I started wondering. Nobody likes to feel like they are not included and I didn’t think it was right. That is not my call to make, that is just how I was feeling
When House started the thread about a straight get-together, I finally felt as though someone understood how I was feeling. So I responded as such.
I am upset that this whole thing has caused something of a divide amongst forum members. I think we are all better than that. I would hope that everyone would attend whatever gathering they choose, but that everyone, from every community, can meet and be friends. I think it is possible, what do you think?
June 10, 2008 at 2:28 am #627363
JenVMemberin a word: no. there are people you don’t like in real life, and there are people you don’t like on internet forums. there is no unwritten rule that states that we all have to get along.
there is also no unwritten rule that says you get to be invited to every party. if you had a get together for size two tall women, I am not going to be hurt that my short fat a$$ is not invited. I will accept that is not me, and move on!
the LGBT community wanted to have a get together. why not just respect that and move on? most of the people who are going to be at that coffee klatch will be at the BPP on Saturday night. Why push the issue so hard?
So now everyone is all pissy and angry, and a lot of people don’t want to interact with other people, and this forum is not a fun place to be anymore.
I don’t know if we can all get along any more. And I don’t know that I care anymore, either.
June 10, 2008 at 2:35 am #627364
hopeyParticipantJenV, clearly you care, or you would not be here responding to NR.
This will all blow over, believe it or not. New people will join who will have no idea this incident ever happened. And perhaps those of us who are here now will learn a few lessons about what to say, what not to say, how to develop a thicker skin, and how to be less reactive to things people write on an internet chat forum.
We do, all of us, have the luxury of turning the computer off and walking away.
June 10, 2008 at 6:52 pm #627365
AnonymousInactiveI’m kind of disappointed the discussion has ended. All 3 or 4 of the threads had value to me. If we can’t work on our differences here in our small community, what does that say?
And where are all of NR’s friends? There are several of you who know what a decent person she is and the silence is deafening. I would have loved a group get together. Now it looks like the divide is bigger than ever. What a loss.
NR, BDG, TheHouse, and the other’s who’s names escape me at the moment, I’m not sure any of us are still showing up Saturday, but I would enjoy a beer with all of you. Sorry to those that offends, but I feel like all 3 of you were expressing your perspective and were shot down for even having one. That wasn’t right.
LGBT West Seattle
https://westseattleblog.com/blog/forum/topic.php?id=948&replies=88
politics of LGBT/straight exclusion
https://westseattleblog.com/blog/forum/topic.php?id=1070&replies=23
Sensitivity
https://westseattleblog.com/blog/forum/topic.php?id=1071&replies=22
S West Seattle
https://westseattleblog.com/blog/forum/topic.php?id=1067&replies=37
June 10, 2008 at 7:42 pm #627366
AnonymousInactiveJT – Thank you for that post. I agree, I think this discussion can be had without people getting angry.
Also, thank you for asking about the people who have met me in person…. I was wondering the same thing. I cannot believe that so many people would buy into what I was made out to be and not remember the person they’ve actually met. I’ve been very discouraged about that.
I think you also bring up a great point in that some of us were completely shot down. I feel that some of us expressed our opinions and the majority of thought on this forum was that we were not entitled to have those opinions or feelings.
It’s very sad. About Saturday, I’ll probably go (I’ve never been one to walk away from anything I want to do because of other people’s cattiness), but I think it will be less fun.
I think the biggest issue here is the simple fact that some of us had our views and opinions shot down, discredited. We were basically told that we were not allowed to have those thoughts.
I would never think to discredit or tell someone what they are entitled to think or what they are entitled to feel. I know nothing of the prejudices that members of the LGBT community have had to face and would never doubt or challenge their claims. Yet, this is what has happened to the straight people who have voiced their feelings. Aren’t we all just people?
I thought this forum was a place to share our thoughts, our opinions. Instead it has become divided. This is why, in my OP I ask if anyone else thinks we can all meet and still be friends…. with the exception of one “no” response, no one has responded.
It’s very sad.
June 10, 2008 at 7:51 pm #627367
ErikParticipantWhenever someone says they’re ‘angry’ or ‘offended’ it speaks more to something in that person’s life that they haven’t totally reconciled. If they were truly comfortable in their position then there would be no need to look for outward validation (or scorn, if that’s what makes you feel alive).
If this post offends….good. It will give you a chance to look at yourself and why you choose to feel that way, then perhaps you can move toward maturity a bit more.
It has nothing to do with me or the poster you’re angry with.
Oh and JT, Newsie, et al…I’ll be at the BPP to knock down some brews with you and share a few laughs this Saturday. :-)
June 10, 2008 at 7:57 pm #627368
beachdrivegirlParticipantI will be there in Saturday. I really want to enjoy meet more people in West Seattle. Currently none of my close friends are in W. Seattle so why not make soem blue, green, gray or orange. I dont care. i think the more the merrier and the more backgrounds/lifesytles the better. And yes Erik I think you are right on with your post and sorry NR I was trying to speak up for you some in the sensitivity thread but it just did not go very well. but thank you for sticking up for me. I appreciated it.
June 10, 2008 at 8:01 pm #627369
AnonymousInactiveErik and BDG – Looking forward to it!
June 10, 2008 at 8:04 pm #627370
JenVMemberregarding Saturday- now it seems like something we HAVE to do rather than something we WANT to do. And that is very sad. It really sounded like fun, now it sounds second-best to a dentist appt.
This is a dead horse. Let’s stop beating it and get on with our lives. Maybe then, people will be excited about meeting each other again, rather than re-hashing all the hurt feelings & boo-boo’s from yesterday.
June 10, 2008 at 8:06 pm #627371
beachdrivegirlParticipantwell said JenV one box of band-aide in a week is more than enough for me …See you all Saturday!
June 10, 2008 at 8:07 pm #627372
JiggersMemberMost of you here need to get a job and/or a life. Well I have to get ready to go to work.
June 10, 2008 at 8:09 pm #627373
AnonymousInactiveJiggers, it’s not gonna work. I still would LOVE for you to come on Saturday!! I know that I would enjoy meeting you in person!
June 10, 2008 at 10:47 pm #627374
KayleighMemberSurely there must be a limit to dysfunction and nonsense.
Surely this board has passed that limit.
Will somebody please post something sane and reasonable?
June 10, 2008 at 11:24 pm #627375
JenVMemberJune 11, 2008 at 1:01 am #627376
soclwrkrinmotnMemberWhat happened yesterday?
That’s as far I can carry this. I think we are all adults and we can move on. Life’s too short and pain’s too long and Kayleigh is not Shirley either. But she is surely correct.
I plan to be there Saturday and will sit and be badly behaved with JenV and company. I have never been to BPP.
I also plan to have coffee Sunday.
*shrugs*
Can we post more about the odd happenings? That was utterly fascinating. I see some interesting things walking to work early. Delridge is a happening place.
June 11, 2008 at 1:07 am #627377
KayleighMemberJune 11, 2008 at 2:06 am #627378
AnonymousInactiveSo… Kayleigh, are you coming on Saturday?
June 11, 2008 at 2:42 am #627379
JanSParticipantSocwrkr…you’ve never been to BPP? definitely a nice place. You’d better be bringing the other half ! I will be there a while, but am going to see Avenue Q that evening, so can’t stay more than an hour and a half or 2 hours or so…
June 11, 2008 at 1:04 pm #627380
soclwrkrinmotnMemberSÃ, claro. She’s like American Express. Won’t leave home without her. I doubt we’ll be there all night, as we are lightweights and can’t stay up late.
June 11, 2008 at 2:53 pm #627381
KayleighMemberNewRes, I do have plans Saturday so I don’t know.
I’ll catch up with folks eventually. :-)
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