December 4, 2012 at 11:36 pm #605793
I APPLAUD the Seattle Times for their series of reports on the problem of elephants in our zoos. Seattle has been in denial about this problem for a long time, in spite of the best efforts of PAWS (?) and other animal welfare groups to keep a spotlight on it.
A zoo is not the best place for any animal (except humans), but for some animals, it’s little better than a slow death. Case in point: elephants.
I was never – repeat NEVER – persuaded by Woodland Park’s long-standing claim that they were doing right by their elephants and that their breeding program was successful. The one baby that was born there died of infection, and all you have to do is go there to see for yourself how unhappy their elephants are.
. . . and Woodland Park is an example of a GOOD zoo. Think of all the zoos that aren’t even up to Woodland Park standards.
Sorry, but “captive breeding” is not an excuse for keeping an animal that normally ranges over thousands of square miles of warm rainforest in a cold, dark enclosure of less than an acre. In this case, “captive breeding” is just code for “People come to this zoo to see elephants, and by god, they’re gonna see elephants.”
If we need to keep and breed large tropical species, it must be done in conditions that are as similar to the wild as possible. Does Seattle look and feel like Thailand to you? If so, perhaps you’re the one who needs to be in the zoo.
(And I wouldn’t recommend that they try to breed you, either.)December 5, 2012 at 12:21 am #779129
Portland’s going to take that baby elephant away from its mother when it’s just a few weeks old? Even if you approve of zoos, that’s cruel.December 5, 2012 at 3:01 am #779130
I just read the story, as of right now, the elephant is going to stay at the zoo.
Reading about Have trunk will travel needless to say if just disgusting and deplorable.
Agreed there is just no reason to breed elephants, killerwhales or large animals.
HHDecember 5, 2012 at 3:17 am #779131
clark5080ParticipantDecember 5, 2012 at 4:57 am #779132December 5, 2012 at 5:25 am #779133
RaincityParticipantDecember 5, 2012 at 2:15 pm #779134
I participated in a demonstration at the zoo several years ago re: care of the elephants. If I recall, the issue at the time was the removal and transfer of an elephant the zoo regarded as a “problem” – probably because she resisted chaining or other restrictions. Members of elephant clans are deeply devoted to one another. They are highly intelligent, emotional beings, and should not be ‘rearranged’ like pieces of furniture, nor stored and displayed as curated museum objects. I agree with Mr. P that almost all zoos are terrible environments for elephants. Unfortunately, elephants are not the only species to suffer in zoos.
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