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would you vote for this man?

Started 8 months ago by JoB
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JoB
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6etfJgZQ7A

Yup.. this is a real political ad

wonder how long it will take voters to figure out that they are the donkeys?

Posted 8 months ago #
waynster
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Gee I'm sure kman will put his 500 word essay into it before that ......drinks on the table....lol

Posted 8 months ago #
2 Much Whine
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Let me guess. . . . he's complaining about how the donkeys want hand outs and health care and how the government should leave him alone yet he's raising donkeys because the government he despises so is subsidizing his donkey farm and he's more than happy to take money for that. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

Posted 8 months ago #
JoB
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2MuchWhine
i missed the subsidies :)

Posted 8 months ago #
kootchman
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Well, it was funny, not ranting and shouting and frothing... a la the typical leftist rally... and it made the point. Good ad.

Posted 8 months ago #
dhg
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It's funny and charming. I'd have a beer with him. But there's nothing relating to political facts in it. He's being taxed to death? Oh really? When taxes are at historic lows? I want to see those tax returns.

Posted 8 months ago #
kootchman
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Why is so "meritorious" an achievement when taxes are at all all time low.. or all time high? Envy is at the heart of this entire debate.

Posted 8 months ago #
JoB
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kootchman...

why would i envy a politician who insinuates his constituents are asses?

really .. we bleeding heart liberals expect our candidates to at least nod to our intelligence

Posted 8 months ago #
JanS
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I gotta ask, Kman...if Joanne said the sky was blue, would you argue the point?

Posted 8 months ago #
kootchman
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Well...it IS the democratic party symbol..and it was funny and relatively harmless... we allowed these professional class of politicians to put us in this hurt locker. Mostly because we impulsively go "yes, yes, yes" for every little favor or trinket offered our way. pandering works..it keeps people like McDermott in office for a lifetime, crooked as he is..he knows he is one pork chop away from forgiveness... So here we sit... 14.8 trillion in deficit, and a wild guess about 90-110 Trillion in unfunded liabilities... ya feel like grabbing the next "progressive" and saying you dumbass....there isn't enough personal or corporate income to cover that bean... take a 115 trillion... and divide it by 3.9 million... the number of AGI filers that made over 200K.... It is hard sometimes to nod to intelligence that is so well hidden from view. Do the math... 115 trillion.. and you expect 3.9 million taxpayers to cover that bet? IT CAN"T BE DONE... It's like the taciturn old farmer who could care less about his misery... as long as his neighbor isn't doing any better. WE SPEND TOO MUCH AND EXPECT TOO MUCH from a government with a very narrowly defined constitutional obligation. He is probably the most honest politician you will meet... "we" are our own worst enemy. Maybe we actually need a politician that tells the truth? Noooo... history shows that doesn't poll well. You, I, are shattering the dreams of future generations...because we lack the leadership, wisdom, and sagacity to do the right thing... stop spending and stop putting this horrendous debt burden on future generations. We will be known as the Most Selfish Generation... we get ours.

Posted 8 months ago #
JoB
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kootchman..

we are in debt because outsourcing has turned war into a multi-billion dollar industry
and because we decided that those who are profiteering should get tax breaks..

if we corrected those two things alone we could more than provide essential services for our citizens..

john Q is not who is sucking at the public ...

btw.. those donkeys may be the symbol of the democratic party...
but they weren't the only asses that politician was mocking.

Posted 8 months ago #
kootchman
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No we could not. It is a fiduciary fact we could not. 110 trillion... I am not sure what "essential" is.... Trillions and billions....write down 110 trillion.... a lot of zeros. Our ENTIRE GDP is less than 15 trillion .... that's everything everyone does that creates monetary value...and when we need disaster relief... hey .. nothing in the piggy bank... we have to go borrow more.... but never at the expense of cutting.... never that. Just add more debt and more debt expense. And I did say, "we" ... as in the large collective

Posted 8 months ago #
JoB
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kootchman...

If you are really concerned about the deficit...

why aren't you going after the people with big pockets who have profited by the conditions they created that have wiped the wealth out of the middle class? They can make a dent in that deficit. John Q can't.

instead you want to deprive their victims.

is this now the American way?

Posted 8 months ago #
kootchman
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That is illusory ma'am ... there isn't enough wealth to cover the obligations we have now. "Y'all" just won't look at the big picture... too scary...the deficit as monstrous as it is... is a wee little thing compared to the rest of the obligations we have incurred.... the underwriting of risk, the entitlements, the unfunded mandates, the trillions upon trillions of underwater pension funds... both from the private and public sectors that the PGF will have to make good on.. truth be told... we wiped ourselves out..and will continue to make it worse... Like i said... 110-115 trillion... divided by the 3.9 M filers who made over 200K... staggering and unachievable. Was there ever a gift the middle class ever turned down? No. We just kept asking for more. Now we want to have "someone" to clean up the mess...sorta like the party guest who indulges too much, pukes on the carpet, and then says he/she is too sick to clean up their mess. I hear this " tax rates should go to pre Bush, or as redblack famously said, the 50's... show me a time, any time, where less than 3 per cent of the population carried over 76% of the rest? Hmmm? We have us a state, city, and federal government that is living off cash flow... week to week... literally and borrowing the rest.

Posted 8 months ago #
blackwatch
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You're all over the place Kootch.
You don't get to bitch about the depth of the debt and then turnaround and deny taxing the rich,(Who pay a fraction of what they should)..... taxing wall Street transactions, etc. The myth has been disproved, they don't create jobs they speculate on Wall Street with that money. And leave the Entitlements alone they've been payed for, that's what they took out of my checks for the past 40 years. They tried this "austerity" at the end of the Depression and all it did was prolong the pain for every one We need investment in the infrastructure, end the stupid wars, Get the upper tax rates back up to 70% which is where they were when we really built this country up after the war.
But you don't get it both ways. The hyppocracy on on the left would be laughable if it wasn't so sick. Get the government out of my life (except for abortion) Give me a break.......We need to cut back on spending (but only on social programs not the military or any other leftist pet. it really is sickening....

Posted 8 months ago #
JoB
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kootch..

those underwater pension funds were mostly created by the reorganization bankruptcies of viable companies simply seeking to rid themselves of that obligation...

i think those now successful companies should pony up for their pensions ...

i think those who profited from fraud... like those who made big bucks at Enron should be ponying up for the employees whose pensions they busted.

and what about our current set of war profiteers.. don't you think they should pony up a bit of that untaxed income?

do you get a theme here?

and you think i can't see the big picture ;->

Posted 8 months ago #