beachdrivegirl
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PBS is conducting a poll on whether or not folks feel that Sarah Palin is qualified to be VP (or god forbid, PRES) and the right is organizing a YES vote-in.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
I voted and was startled by the statistics that 52% of individuals do find her qualified... they must not watch the same intervies i do.
IMO, this is not a worthy poll. It allows for multiple votes from any given email address and shows signs of using bots. I'm disappointed that PBS would use such a poor tool. Instead of voting again (I did once/twice to see that it wasn't monitored), I sent an email to PBS re: the farce.
JenV
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Typical right wing tactic.
beachdrivegirl
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thanks GHO, I will actually send an email as well. Who knows if they get enough emails maybe they will make the necessary corrections.
westseattledood
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GHO -
Maybe you could post the PBS email address? I appreciate how you and other WSB forum folks take the initiative in voicing your opinions.
If it is the case that this poll is so lame, PBS is sliding down that same slope as McCain, in my eyes. Very disappointing.
beachdrivegirl
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http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html
Here is a link to the contact them page.
from pbs.org site:
"Have a comment about the journalistic integrity of PBS on-air or online content?
Write the PBS Ombudsman, Michael Getler, who serves as an independent internal critic within PBS seeking to ensure that PBS upholds its own standards of editorial integrity."
http://www.pbs.org/ombudsman/
there are email links at the top right of that page
Cait
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Disparaging review of stupid poll: SENT!
Zenguy
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What Cait said. Bad PBS, baaaaaddddd PBS...
I voted 5 times.. and the percentages didn't budge...
i agree with notifying PBS that this isn't what we expect from them...
and.. i encourage you to vote often ;->
ellenater
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I'm on board. Thanks for the link GHO. That is abominable!!!!!
my last vote made a difference.. ok in an alternate universe.
the vote now stands at 51/47..
the pro palin crowd has lot a percentage point.
vote often.. vote no
i am voting every time i open this thread.
JenV
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I expected much more out of PBS than this.
me too...
but then a lot of things just aren't what they used to be.
51/48 yes..
walfredo
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It is a silly poll... Online polls that allow multiple votes.
The next thing you know they are going to change the entire rules and formatting of the vice presidential debate to cover up her complete lack of anything to say outside of scripted talking points- Wait, what is this?
"From the NYT:
At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive."
Are you fuc*ing kidding me? We are now rigging the debate formats to compensate for a know-nothing, mendacious Manchurian candidate drilled in meaningless talking points? And the Obama team agreed to this? And so did the press?"
Now now Walfredo...
the republicans have a right to be concerned about what sarah will say. her delusions of grandeur are showing and that won't do John McCain any good.
What he thought he got was a woman who talked the talk but didn't mean it... he is finding out she actually says what she means... even if she hasn't ever actually thought about what she means...
she just wants to show "them:....
poor john is afraid he is them... she wants to do more than just inquire after his health every morning.
that's the trouble with women you know.. you just can't keep them in their place:)
I would pity John.. but hey, that's what rash decisions get you.
Vote again - and again!!!!!!!
we have to correct this!!!
Cait
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PREACH IT, WALFREDO!
I got multiple emails about this from friends today. Between that, the one about donating money to PP in her name, and others, I had had enough of this insistence on keeping this floozey in the spotlight. Here was the response I sent, with some stuff removed regarding how the Dems will guarantee our own loss if we keep sending ourselves into a tizzy at every right-wing announcement:
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As disgusted as I am with the idea of her in general, never mind the idea of her in any position of power, emails like [the pbs poll] are just prolonging the media frenzy that suggests that she is legit. These polls mean absolutely nothing, and I know that you know this. When some right-winger asks me to jump, why should my response be, "Ok, your majesty, how high?" If we don't engage in these stupid things, we don't acknowledge that they (or she) are even worth the effort of a mouse click.
[Dems digging their own grave info was here]
Choosing not to participate in these ploys has to start somewhere. I'm here to suggest that maybe instead of focusing on the right, where you'll always (always, as in every single time) be fighting a losing battle, how about turning that much-needed time and attention back to our own inspiring candidates.
[your friend, arietta]
p.s. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. --Einstein
JenV
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yay arietta!
arietta..
i agree totally with you in principle...
but my heart is gladdened by all that money going to planned parenthood which desperately needs it.
i gave to planned parenthood because i would have anyway...
Zenguy
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Here is the reply I got from PBS:
Thank you for writing to PBS regarding the Web poll that asks, "Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?" The poll is part of the companion site for NOW, one of PBS’ award-winning public affairs program. The series creates a poll each week that is based on the news to solicit opinions from our Web visitors about current issues. This particular question appeared the week of the Republican National Convention, when Sarah Palin was nominated, and it was designed to reflect a question that many were asking at that time. It is no longer on the Web site home page. The weekly online poll reflects the interest and enthusiasm visitors to pbs.org feel about a particular topic; it is not a scientific measurement of opinion. Due to massive accessing of the poll that was compromising the overall performance of pbs.org, a “cookie” system has been implemented on the Palin question. Therefore, as of September 23rd, a user can only vote once, on one computer. The current poll, also taken from the most recent headlines, is “Who [Senator McCain or Senator Obama] do you trust more to fix the nation's economic mess.” Visitors can cast their vote in this poll at http://www.pbs.org/now/. We appreciate your interest in PBS and our online content. Sincerely,MaryPBS Viewer Services
a) nice job, Zenguy; nice they made the change, though the damage was probably already done - I guess we should all go vote again
b) I did not get a response and I'm totally offended - they can have their Rick Steves books back! ;)
westseattledood
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Wow - excellent response. Cool.
so. it's a do over on the vote.
Hey Zenguy, would you mind posting your response in the comments here?
http://mudflats.wordpress.com
or give me permission to copy it if you really don't want to register? You can do it in today's post ("Alaskans for Truth"); there are still many mentions of the poll, they come up daily, and I've never seen anyone post a response from PBS. I think a lot of people would be interested.
Zenguy
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Have at it GHO
Nice job everyone! They have an article/response up about the poll too.
Hi JoB, I agree that PP is a worthy recipient of our funds, and I would give to them anyway, too, except using my own name. Don't get me wrong -- in principle I think it's kind of amusing to give to them in this nut-job's name. But I just don't trust that it won't come back to bite us in the a** at some point.
Posted Zenguy - and included the article RS - thanks both, good information to share.
“Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks." - Rep Alcee Hastings of Florida
I'm surprised no one has shared this little tidbit to dismiss and degrade Palin.
NR...I think you probably could have started a thread with this one. I'm sure it would bring some reactions. It might get lost in these comments. You know where I stand politically...on the opposite side of center from you - lol. What this man said is reprehensible. There simply is no place for it anywhere, but especially not in a speech to constituents. Alcee Hasting has a past, fairly shady at times (a "defrocked" judge)..and while he's gotten himself elected in Fla, I hope the powers that be come down hard on him for saying that.
Lol, JanS. You're right! I should have started a new thread with this.
I have to admit, I did get a little lost in all the negative Palin threads and wasn't sure where to go with it.
I agree, reprehensible. Not to mention grammatically incorrect and just plain dumb.
have you checked obama H qualifications NONE
Tootie...can you back that up with actual facts? Also...his name is Barack Obama...
beachdrivegirl
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Tootie have you listened to Palin talk? Have you watched her interview? As I have mentioned in another thread I would feel more comfortable with my four year old niece in public speaking and qualifications than Palin.
The best part is, that Biden wont have any work to do on Thursday during the VP debate all he will have to do is shut- up and let her talk...
Zenguy
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BDG, did you see the interview with Katie Couric? I read it and thought it was bad, but it was like watching a train wreck. I think your assessment is right on...let her implode on her own.
beachdrivegirl
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Zenguy, I did! I was absolutely amazed at how poorly she did. It is an embarrassment to our country!
walfredo
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http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-lies-and-li.html
A good link on the dozens of easily provable factual lies that Palin has said since becoming the VP nominee. None have been explained or retracted at this point in time.
JenV
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Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.
Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.
WSMom
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JenV: Your use of proper grammar is showing, she actually said "I'll try to find ya some and bring em to ya" :)
SNL is right, cornered she becomes increasingly adorable!
I am not sure what you mean by when you say anyone can vote mutliple times from same address?
"Your first vote for this poll has been registered. Any subsequent vote will not be counted. This is not a scientific poll."
Unless there is some sneaky trick you all know about altering polls.....?
Tonya - read all of the posts, 22 and 27 specifically.
Okay thanks Gen.
flipjack
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This is why Bill Moyers quit PBS and warned that the organization was being taken over by right wingnuts serving on the board of directors.
He was talking about this when I went to see him talk at the Parmount Theater a few years ago.
PBS had a non-partisan aura about it until now. It's a good front for neo-cons to disseminate propaganda.
flipjack..
it is sad that one of the most reliable sources for unbiased news has bent over so far to be "fair' to neocons that they are beginning to sound more like the mainstream press and far less like an award winning in depth news source.
still.. i listen to them. i just don't fund them the way i used to.
a democratic president will do a great deal towards restoring the impartiality of PBS.
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