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Trader Joe's by Christmas for West Seattle?


  1. Ok - still unfounded rumor but I was just in Trader Joe's in Burien and overheard a customer comment to the cashier "You're not in my neighborhood. I'm in West Seattle." That cashier and the one helping me -both- replied they'd heard TJ's is working on opening a store here in West Seattle by the end of the year.
    Time to send a letter to Santa Joe?
    http://www.traderjoes.com/about/location-requests-form.asp

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  2. johnnyblegs
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    johnnyblegs

    I heard this one last year! Don't believe it.

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  3. I need to search snopes.com for the real answer, I guess :-)

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  4. herongrrrl
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    Don't hold your breath. I've heard that same rumor every time I've gone to the Burien store since it opened!

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  5. forget the petition/request, organize a rally with signs infront of the burien trader joes. 10-20 people should make an impression.

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  6. If I had a dime for every Trader Joe's rumor since we started WSB ... we would be living in one of those beautiful homes down at Arroyo Beach near where the gray whale breathed his last.

    I have heard several "done deal, sure bet" reports in the past six months. But the media folks said it's "not in the 2-year plan" which ostensibly runs through the end of NEXT year.

    All the same, I'm due to bug them again sometime soon. You just never know. And once Whole Foods officially knows its lease is not being honored in June - you never know what that could set in motion.

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  7. "If I had a dime for every Trader Joe's rumor since we started WSB ... we would be living in one of those beautiful homes down at Arroyo Beach near where the gray whale breathed his last."

    .......and you'd also have the official WSB NewsZeppelin! ;-)

    Mike

    Posted 4 years ago #         
  8. lenguamor
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    lenguamor

    I asked Burien store personnel about a WS store just a while ago while I was there, and was told that they are indeed opening a store here.

    They were specific in saying that it would be in the main Huling building.

    Not an official release, but there it is. Tracy or Chris, if you want the names of the employees with whom I spoke, please message/email me and I'll be glad to tell you.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  9. I already checked this one out yesterday.

    First I called Trader Joe's headquarters.

    Not on the list for this year, a woman insisted on telling me. Repeatedly.

    Now, this IS a slight change, as when I last spoke to corporate headquarters a couple months ago, they said it was not in their TWO-YEAR plan, which meant, they insisted, through 2011. Now, they're saying, not on the list for this year. 2011? They don't comment.

    Next, I called Trader Joe's in Burien, and asked to speak with the manager on duty, figuring he/she could either repeat this exciting claim to me, or else maybe they could tell their employees to quit telling customers there's a Trader Joe's opening soon in West Seattle, because corporate keeps denying it.

    Manager Dan said, well, they all know that TJ's has been looking around West Seattle, but denied that anyone there has any info about any specific location.

    I checked the city records for all the sites. Searched the county records for any new evidence of a Trader Joe's lease. Nothing.

    So that's what I can tell you. Doesn't mean there's not some deal out there that they somehow are OK with telling customers about but refuse to tell anyone who identifies herself as a reporter.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  10. lenguamor
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    lenguamor

    That's interesting. The persons with whom I spoke were very matter-of-fact about the Huling location, like it was well-known among them at least.

    Oh, well; we'll keep watching...and hoping.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  11. jellyfish
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    It would be a dream come true.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  12. carterbiosea
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    This will probably be an unpopular sentiment, but I really don't want a TJ's. There are so many great local businesses that have great products (West Seattle Cellars, the new produce stand by the Shell, Sugar Rush, Husky Deli, etc) that I worry would lose a lot of business to a Trader Joe's. TJ is a big corporation with a loyal clientele, they don't need my $$. Our local businesses do. Just my opinion.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  13. dawsonct
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    Agreed carter, ho-hum. I'll keep my money local as well.
    The one plus I could see to it would be preserving the Huling building for a while longer; I like it's interesting exterior.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  14. lenguamor
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    lenguamor

    Whatever.

    I shop local every bit I can - which is plenty; C&P, Husky, WS Optix, Russell's, Super Supplements, Easy Street, Thriftway, etc. But I still trek down to Burien for Trader Joe's non-rBST dairy products (at a fraction of "organics") and all the other good things they carry.

    And even if they never open here I always will.

    One does not preclude the other.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  15. svenskiseattle
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    For what it may be worth, I was just at the CapHill TJ's and was told by two checkers that a store would open later this year at Alaska Junction. Unsubstantiated rumor still perhaps, yet from another source than the Burien location.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  16. We've been checking beyond the company. Watch for a story on the home page within the next couple hours.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  17. That should generate a lot of hits.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  18. We're having a banner month already (1st time with more than three-quarters-of-a-million pageviews 2 months in a row) so certainly not doing it for the traffic. But there was too much talk not to go really deep with the research. Anyway, gotta get back to the stories I have to publish first before I can finish that one!

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  19. you tease, you! ;-)

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  20. I'm about to hit publish .. hang on ...

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  21. charlabob
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    charlabob

    Interesting (and imho somewhat limited) view of "local business." Chains provide jobs locally and almost everything I've heard about TJs as an employer is positive. They provide access to people who need bargains and don't have transportation. They provide out of town traffic for people who will discover some of our local businesses. (I've found places on Cap Hill and Burien in the course of wandering over to TJs.) We live in a big city -- some of us live here for the variety that small towns don't provide. (Not to mention the anonymity, but that's another thread for another day.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  22. dawsonct
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    When I think of a local business, I think of one where, at the end of the day, the profits stay in the community, not just the wages of a few modestly paid service industry employees.
    --
    We haven't even touched on the fact that TJ's is one of the worst perpetrators of product over-packaging in the processed food industry.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  23. SpeakLoud
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    Curious dawsonct as to your sources for such a claim?

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  24. dawsonct
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    Which one? The over-packaging is obvious.
    And the fact that profits from chains don't stay in the area is common sense economics.
    --
    EVERYTHING available at TJ's, except for TJ branded products, are available from local purveyors, and if you drive past Big John's PFI to get to Capitol Hill TJ's, well, you are simply ignorant. I understand most of you are from California, and if you can't have Cal. sunshine up here all year long, at least you can have Cal. culture, which is why there is so much desperation for this chain store. I know (most of) you TJ rooters are homesick, so I am trying to help you move beyond it, learn where Seattleites go for a great selection of imported foods at great prices, and help our LOCAL economy at the same time.
    Good news, ignorance doesn't need to be permanent.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  25. Of course, you didn't back up your over packaging claim...not that I disagree with you since most of the limited produce they sell is packaged. When Met Market and PCC sell the same items for the same price, I will shop there, but for the most part, on the items they both sell, they are not even close.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  26. dawsonct...

    i am not a homesick Californian and i still make 2 trips a month to one of the trader joes for items i can't find elsewhere at any price..
    and some i can find but don't want to pay a dollar or two more per item since i am in the store anyway.

    i don't buy the overpackaged produce and don't know where their dairy products come from so i don't buy them much either.

    i am that annoying lady who is slowing everyone down by reading the packaging on the label and mostly rejecting any product that is not local.

    While i agree with supporting local businesses I am much more fanatic about supporting local products whenever possible.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  27. bebecat
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    Went to the TJ's in Burien. I was totally turned off by all the processed foods. High sodium and preservatives in everything. Seemed like unhealthy foods. Lot's of Wine. I walked out and didn't buy anything and have never been back. I am one who hopes TJ's does NOT take up space in West Seattle.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  28. JoB, do you know where any other dairy products come from? With very few exceptions (Strauss Dairy) most don't list the farm the milk (cheese, whatever) came from. I buy the milk because I trust them that its Organic, assuming its coming from a Co-operative, like 99% of all the milk out there.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  29. SarahScoot
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    SarahScoot

    Carson, here's a handy chart that rates many organic dairies in our country for their practices; Trader Joe's would not disclose any information about their suppliers, so they received a poor rating. They could get milk from a decent co-op, or it could be Horizon/Dean Foods (horrible!), so I don't buy their milk at all.
    Whole Foods did disclose information about the conditions of their house-brand organic milk supplier, so if I'm at a WF, I'll buy their 365 Organic milk; anywhere else, I'll only buy Smith Brothers, Organic Valley, or a smaller local dairy. http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/Ratings_Alphabetical.html

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  30. Carson..

    i can't link this morning because my brain is swiss cheese. but i did find a site that rated the reliability of "organic" milk on several factors and trader joes was not high on that list.

    i will admit that i have not yet asked my local trader joes where their milk comes from. i keep meaning to do that. they can generally tell you which coop they buy from.

    the best rated local source available in West Seattle was organic valley in the local cartons without the plastic spouts.

    there is a dairy that sells though the TOPS stores that got their highest rating but the nearest store that sells it is maybe kirland or everett.

    if i had consistent energy i would buy my milk at the farmer's market..

    but that isn't a good bet for people like me who may or may not be able to go on market day and may or may not be able to walk far enough or carry enough to shop there:(

    and don't get me started on eggs.. the loopholes there are enormous.. i settle for buying as local as i can and wish i could visit the farms.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  31. thanks sarahscoot

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  32. I guess since I only put milk in my coffee, I will settle for whatever is the cheapest organic I can get. I suppose if my kids were still in the milk drinking years I might be more vigilant.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  33. carson..

    you might ask yourself what the label on the cheapest organic milk you can get means...

    if you follow the axiom that similar packaging on store brands indicates similar source..

    it is possible that the trader joes organic milk sold here comes from the local organic valley cooperative which would be a good thing.

    but it is also possible that it comes from a local source that pools milk from sustainable practice farms with milk from larger conglomerates that don't currently feed their cows growth hormone as an additive... or from a far less local source... i think the label reads monrovia california ...

    was that what you thought you were buying?
    if so.. you don't need to buy organic to get that...

    any of the local dairies which post bgh (???. not sure about the initials...bovine growth hormone therapy) free on their cartons will do.

    i don't know which is cheaper.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  34. "you might ask yourself what the label on the cheapest organic milk you can get means..."

    If you follow all the way through on that logic, you will not find yourself shopping at Trader Joe's at all.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  35. I trust Trader Joes as much as I trust PCC or anyone else, and thats not very much but I don't have the time or energy to go to the farm myself. If I was that worried, or paranoid I would go off the grid.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  36. It cracks me up a little bit that people love to hate TJ's. I can't think of a single Restaurant or grocery store that doesn't sell something that I think is bad. Maybe thats why I shop at Costco, TJ's, PCC, Met Market and Safeway. They each do something better than the others, my only rant has been how far I have to go to get to TJ's!!

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  37. Kbear..

    no... if i follow through on that logic i will be making informed decisions about what i buy and where i buy it.

    those will be my buying decisions... based on my personal purchasing philosophy... filtered through my time, my energy and my financial circumstances.

    Because when it comes right down to it.. if i make an informed decision to buy the most processed and packaged food possible with my money.... If i decide to pay more for the same product because i like shopping at a particular store.. if i don't carry bags and ask them to double bag with plastic bags... it's my decision to make.

    I personally believe all those decisions to be poor ones.. but i have to tell you that on a bad day i have made any and all of those decisions because of convenience.. and given another equally bad day i would probably do the same.

    Milk happens to be one of those things i care deeply about and won't buy if i can't get what i need... the gastric disturbances that follow a poor buying decision on that one are too big to overlook for convenience:(

    if i was sure that the organic milk at my local trader joes was from local dairies producing milk according to sustainable organic standards.. i would probably buy it. however, the one time i did.. it turned out to be a mistake for me. if it wasn't so critical for me.. i probably wouldn't be quite so persistent... but there you go.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  38. JoB - Seriously, TMI.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  39. that is an interesting link SarahScoot-
    I couldn't find Natural Directions on there, and a little search showed they were (?) related to Unified Grocers, which isn't on the list either.
    Any idea on how ND rates for dairy ?

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  40. Jiggers
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    Jiggers

    Trader Joe's has nothing to offer me. It is what it is.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  41. and i want one in west seattle...

    i will shop there just about as often as i shop at met market and PCC and Thriftway... as i do now.

    i just won't have to drive so far to do so:)

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  42. villagegreen
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    villagegreen

    Whether you shop at TJ's or not, we'd be lucky as hell to get them into that Huling spot. The space is so large nothing 'cool' and 'local to WS' would ever move in there. Would you rather have a Best Buy or Bed Bath and Beyond there, or god forbid another car dealership?

    It's the same thing as the Petco on California - I'd love to see them go, but what else could possible go in such a large space. I'd rather Petco stay than have it razed for some new highrise apartment complex.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  43. ws4ever
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    Guess I feel a strong reaction to the "love to see (Petco) go" statement above. We are not an European village with all independent business owners. We love individuality, but need the convenience of Safeway, Petco, Home Depot for non-specialty items, but love the diversity of local places such as Village Green, Husky Deli, Bakery Nouveau and places in-between. Why target Petco?

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  44. ellenater
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    ellenater

    IAWTC. I like the mix of chain and local. Better flavor. All chain= strip mall hell. All local=eventual gentrified nightmare.

    And again, Trader Joes person, if you are reading this, please come here now. Thank you.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  45. villagegreen
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    villagegreen

    ws4ever - I didn't mean to imply that there shouldn't be chains in West Seattle. God knows I love Target, Cupcake Royale, Matador, etc.

    My main problem with Petco is that the building (from the outside) looks like a crap hole. The window displays don't appear to have been changed in decades - the whole place just looks depressing. They could easily spruce the place up with a small investment, but that would require them to give a damn about fitting into the aesthetic of the neighborhood. Most chains are located in strip mall type settings, and so cater to that type of aesthetic.

    I'm sure Petco is well aware of this fact, yet they choose to do nothing about it. And I, therefore, choose not to shop there - and kinda wish they'd go away.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  46. petco doesn't make it as a chain store for me in their junction location because of the lack of easy parking... i buy halters at petco.. i just visit the one at southcenter where it is easy for me to get in and out of the store:( i am surprised they do well enough there to maintain their store..

    as long as they have no need to maintain a more local business using their storefront to attract business.. they are unlikely to invest in infrastructure...

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  47. rockhills
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    rockhills

    OK, full disclosure here: I am a California transplant. I fell in love with TJ's down there because of the low prices (approx. 20% lower than up here) and their connection with local free range/organic farms, which were clearly labeled and easily verifiable. These don't seem to be options at TJ's up here, and boy do I miss that. BUT, even at a higher price, Washington TJ's typical (i.e. greater than 100 mile radius) grocery fare is of equivalent value and significantly less expensive than Thriftway or QFC. I would be thrilled to have one move into West Seattle.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  48. 20% ? really?
    i think i will be mailing some care packages home from california at the end of the month.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  49. rockhills
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    rockhills

    Ayah. Beer and wine in particular. At first I thought it was a tax thing, but never found any proof of that.

    Posted 3 years ago #         
  50. dang.. i was hoping to score a deal on dog treats and shower gel. I don't buy enough alcohol to make the bother of a care package worthwhile

    Posted 3 years ago #         

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