Dawsonct: Regarding post 45.
Before I get to it I just want to say that this forum does allow many ideas to be stated. These are just words typed. I would generally prefer to just get along and avoid some of the spirited debate. Sometimes people say things that rile me up. I generally do not respond and stay silent but other times I do feel compelled to offer my two cents. The next post is more like two bits.
OK, I have a little more time this evening than anticipated. I didn't want to do this, but you called me out.
Irony, I found it ironic that the former German Republic had certain items, and I said that both parties here have in common from my earlier post, items that are in some of our party platforms. I am against violence and hate.
I do not compare various EU countries to the dictator led Nazi Germany. Maybe Iran as far as a lunatic govern(mental) system. Incidentally, when they were buddy buddy with Hitler didn't they change their name from Persia to Iran (sounds a lot like Aryan) But, I wanted to point out that the larger certain governments and their bureaucracies get, the more possibility of government overstepping their intended limits.
Our friends at Wikipedia state the following about Social Democracies: Social democracy is a political ideology of the centre-left on the classic political spectrum. Social democracy is traditionally a form of evolutionary reformist socialism. However, since the rise in popularity of the New Right, a number of prominent social democratic parties have abandoned the goal of the gradual evolution of capitalism to socialism and instead support welfare state capitalism.
Isn't that interesting. Does that compare to your history or reference books? Please, enlighten me if I am wrong. Point me toward the correct state sponsored texts.
Now, in our Republic, estimates hold that in 2004, 20 percent of US households were receiveing 75% of their income from the Federal Government. (I am not criticizing them either). Another 20% of households were receiving nearly 40%. So about 60% of American households were receiving more government benefits and services, measured in dollars, than they were paying back in taxes. It has been estimated the President Obama's first budget alone raises this level of "net dependency" to 70 percent. (Eventually down the road we will see if these numbers are close.)
This new legislation with Healthcare will represent the greatest expansion of the welfare state in our generation and possibly in history. 110 million Americans could claim this new entitlement in a few years. (Paul Ryan's numbers and most of his words from a speech he gave.)
(Back to my words) All countries rise and fall. I am talking about looking into the future. About the gradual move towards tyranny, which our founding fathers seemed to want to ensure that we could try to stay away from. A noble goal, eh?
Here is one of many quandries. Many people in the past few years especially when W was in office were against the Patriot Act. 28 attempted terrorist attacks have been thwarted since instituted. Obama did not kill it, in fact I believe it has been renewed or affirmed. If it was bad under Bush then it must be bad under Obama too. Two Presidents who possibly have brought us closer to an intrusive abuse of power. For now it seems mostly to be used against overseas threats but could easily be used on the electorate with the right (meaning wrong) people in power.
No, didn't like stagflation under Nixon and Ford. Didn't like Watergate or President Clinton lying under oath. Didn't like the Clinton Administration illegally using a tank in Waco. Didn't like inflation under Carter and a complete embarrasment over the Iranian hostage crisis. Didn't like Iran/Contra by Reagan. Nope, didn't like the assassinations and attempts of the 60's, 70's, and 80's. I know that these men did not fit into tiny little packages. They did what they thought was right. I take more of a macro view. I cannot tell you how many vetoes or bills were signed by our Presidents. I fully admit it.
You mention socialist highways. In a sense they are. In fact I like paying for them. They are necessary. They allow commerce, they allow me and others to prosper or at least try. But where did they come from? The Romans, well sort of. How about Ike, right? The former Allied Commander saw the German Autobahn and highway system from the National Socialists. Tanks and troops seem to move much more quickly on those nice wide boulevards and limited access highways. Am I wrong?
I admit, I can be wrong at times. Most definitely. I know you can be wrong because you spelled "Reagan" wrong. Whether on purpose or not, I do not know.
Yes I scream socialism, marxism, atheism, absolutism, anarchism and ignorantism when I take public transportation, drive on a road, or call the police department. Please, give me a break.
You can write just about anything you want. It is your right granted by the 10th Amendment. Where TF do I come from? I will answer literally. Well, the home state of Progressivism. A state that fought in the Union Army to preserve the country and eradicate slavery. The town where the coffee break was born. The state that has a socialist, I mean publicly held professional football team of which I am a proud owner. From the tobacco and corn fields of that state to the wheat fields and orchards of this state, from the public schools and universities of this state and my birth state. From a mostly Democratic family who I love dearly but politically disagree with. From Experience, from hard knocks, from mistakes, from education. I am a citizen of this wondrous country. With immigrant roots almost back to Mayflower and not so long ago. I have the freedom to say since I was so fortunate to be born here ...I Love You Too.
Finally, I have seen your posts and you do have expertise in some areas that I do not. It would be phony of me to say otherwise.