As for post 42
Right Wing Christians. Please expand your definitions. There are many kinds of congregations. I must admit, i would not care to attend a church that promotes Liberation Theology nor Racism or violence. Violence is not prescribed by any normal church whether conservative or liberal.
I think Andrea's post of your statement about Jesus is right on.
I also once posted the numbers of attacks on abortion clinics. They are not following normal christian or societal values. These people are breaking the law and have killed, damaged and maimed. They are not the norm and there have been and are too many extremists. Abortion is legal but 35+ million deaths is repugnant and sad also.
OK City. McVeigh and Nicholls. President Clinton blamed talk radio but he was also shifting the focus away from the illegal attack on the Branch Davidian complex. McVeigh once noted that he was seeking retribution for what the government did at Waco. There is evidence that there were middle eastern influences on that attack but McVeigh was put to death so we will never know. What kind of ...ers... is that? It is ironic how that bomb was almost a near replica of the first WTC bomb. I am not defending Koresh's group. At least with the Breakaway LDS sect last year they did a much better job of dealing with a religious group. McVeigh was anti government. He seemed right wing and was definitely anti government. Most sensible people would reject his philosophy. Problem is there are a lot of people on both sides who are not sensible nor compassionate. What a horrible deed and unfortunately there will be more senseless acts and that saddens me.
Eric Rudolph fits the mold of a right wing extremist too. No doubt about it. Incomprehensible why these people did what they did. I am against followers of groups like the Aryan nations. Most people are.
Fred Phelps group is a bunch of unfortunately highly educated and in my opinion completely idiotic morons who abuse the right of free speech and have lost the meaning of tolerance. We have no disagreement.
You wrote (that driscoll...) "He is creating the people that will force creationism into science classes, abortion clinics to close out of fear, prevent same sex couples from marrying, take books out of libraries that they think you shouldn't read, he is creating people that will tell your daughters they are the property of their husbands, and yes he is part of the general air that is creating the next Timothy McVeigh."
That is your opinion. You disagree with him or them and I am using your words. They probably disagree with you. I don't know if your statement about their beliefs is true. They might believe that you are wrong. Each side has a right to their own view. Do you want to censor theirs? Disagreement is fine, censoring is not.
You might be surprised to know that I will be voting to approve the legislatures proposition. I believe in equal rights for everyone (except JoB - you know I am teasing JoB). But to say it has nothing to do with Gay Marriage is a crock. This is where the Progressive movement plays with the truth. Regardless, I have gay relatives and friends. They should not be denied fair rights. I also understand that the opposition has their own view. That is why we vote, educate, learn and grow. Time will tell what will happen. I cannot stand President Obama's mostly progressive big government agenda but I will always respect that he is our President.
So if the religious right is going to create Tim McVeigh's, what is the other side going to create that is evil? If you want, I can come up with a huge list of left (and right) wing idiots but why? Don't we want what is best for all of us? I would prefer to get along.
I mean no malice toward you. Written communication cannot convey how happy to irritated or mad somebody is. Your posts are passionate. Take Care, Rich
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