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1. bnoyes
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   Within the last few weeks a co-worker of mine has been approached by a strange elderly man on two occasions near Admiral Way, once at the Starbucks and once at the Metro Market. Both times it's been in the parking lot. The man has knocked on her car window as she was about to drive away and asked if she was single, if she'd like to have someone to take her shopping, and other strange questions. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

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2. KatherineL
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   There were some reports of this man and a discussion a while back. Does anyone know how to access that?

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3. jwws
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   bnoyes,

   Sounds hauntingly familiar..

   http://westseattleblog.com/2011/08/reader-report-man-in-car-leaves-runner-concerned

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4. westcoastdeb
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   Be careful out there folks.

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5. bnoyes
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   jwws,

   Wow. That's the guy. The car and man fits the description, as does the questions he asked. Creepy.

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6. anonyme
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   bnoyes, this is an off-thread, off-the-wall question, but did you happen to go to school in Michigan? Grosse Pointe to be exact?

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7. jwws
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   All I can suggest is if your friend can get the license plate number call the police and report him. If he's reported enough perhaps the police will pay him a visit/get him the help he needs.

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8. Jiggers
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   The dude is trying to pick her up now leave him alone. Elderly men want some sweet tang too..

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9. bnoyes
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   I can't say I've ever been to Michigan, anonyme.

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10. diane2726
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    This same man approched me outside of starbucks yesterday. (11:30 am)I thought he was pulling out of his parking space so I was waiting for his spot. I took another spot that became available before he left. Went to get my coffee..came out and he waved me over to his window. Asked me if I was mad at him for not leaving right away. He said he wanted to cut his finger nails before he left the parking lot. Asked me if I was in love, asked if I was married, what I did for work, if we did pretty well financially and if I had children. He asked me if I was willing to take him out to lunch that afternoon. He said that he lives in WS on Harbour Ave 50% of the time and in Florida 50% of the time (lic plate did say Florida). I just thought he was a lonley guy sitting in his car cutting his finger nails. He told me I was a sweet looking girl as I walked back to my car.

    Told my husband about some odd old guy I met when I got home. Wish I got his plate number. He might be harmless..but one never knows. Its better to be safe then sorry... If I come across him again, I will get in touch with police..just for a FYI for them..

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11. TDe
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    Maybe some of the blog guys can watch for the Florida lic plate in the Starbucks or Met Market parking lots and have an advisory chat with the guy. The car shouldn't be too hard to spot.

    He might just be a lonely old man who doesn't have good social graces and needs a little educating on how not to approach women. Let him know that his actions have caught the attention of a very public forum, that people all over West Seattle are watching and that it would be a shame if he ended up tangling with the police, because that's where he's heading.

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12. Jiggers
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    No wonder why there are a lot of unhappy single people in Seattle. I hope the guy finds a girl. TDe..I'm not looking out for him and I don't care. You make it sound like its a crime for old single men, maybe just men in general to approach women. Women wished they were approached more in this city. Stop the sensationalizing. You are going to get old too and maybe lonely so bachi on you.

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13. bebecat
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    I'd of walked away the minute he talked of clipping his fingernails in the car. Like Weird :/

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14. jwws
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    JIggers,

    Really??Really??
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    There's a right way and wrong way to go about things and this old geezer is not going about it the right way - he may be harmless but maybe not, maybe he's suffering from some mental impairment - who knows but he is making enough women (single and married) uncomfortable enough for it to be commented on multiple times.
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    Would you feel the same way if some old octagenerian woman constantly followed you around repeatedly asking inappropraite questions? I think not.

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15. Jiggers
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    Go find something else to do...

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16. bnoyes
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    How old are you Jiggers? And what kind of car do you drive? I think we may have found our man.

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17. jwws
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    Jiggers,

    I'd say the same to you - take your inappropriate comments and opinions elsewhere - your IQ is showing

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18. Klause
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    Sounds like Jiggers might be our man. If not, I feel sorry for you Jiggers if this is the way you think and or like to pickup women. Sounds very Creepy to me. As a man, I don't condone this type behavior and would never think of approaching women in this fashion. There are other ways for lonely old men to find girlfriends or they could just call Jiggers.

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19. Jiggers
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    I'm 13 what's it to you?

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20. 2 Much Whine
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    Ch, ch, ch, chia Jiggers! http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=563704

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21. kootchman
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    Jesus H Jiggers... you know damn well it ya gotta buy a few drinks first...THEN pitch the woo. Maybe he should break out a bottle of MD 20/20 first, with a spare paper cup. Observe the niceties. Take a scenic drive around Seattle on Metro... ladies, the click of a pistol being cocked is the universal way of saying "no thank you" ...

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22. goodgraces
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    Honestly, I keep reading these threads about this disturbed man frequenting the north Admiral area in hopes of finding out that he's finally been apprehended. I'm shocked that he's still wreaking havoc in women's lives in our community! The guy's not normal, has shown that to dozens of women over the last several months, is aggressive and threatening (if not in terms of physical violence, then in terms of personal physical space), intrusive, and out of touch with social mores. I find "Jiggers'" and others' attempts at levity to be downright misogynistic.

    NOT OK folks. This guy needs some serious mental health intervention and, failing that, some jail time. Please don't minimize his aberrant behavior!

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23. amalia
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    Let me guess, Jiggers.... you're single.

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24. kootchman
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    "Wrecking havoc"? By being a pest? Unless he does something threatening he isn't going anywhere...the police can't do a thing. Not being "normal" is not a criminal offense. Maybe a trespass offense IF the property owner gets a restraining order. Celebrate our diversity. You need to watch a video of a NYC Puerto Rican woman in action... you will have nary a second encounter!!!

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25. JanS
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    so, has anyone looked at this guy and simply said " Go away and leave me alone"?

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26. JoB
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    so this guy has made a few women uncomfortable...
    old men making inappropriate comments generally do make young women uncomfortable

    what makes me uncomfortable is the personal comments made to those who don't agree that becoming uncomfortable is not cause for alarm.

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27. datamuse
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    I haven't run into him, JanS, but if I did, that's what I'd say.

    Jiggers, I'm really not sure how to put this, but to be honest, this particular woman does NOT wish to be approached more in this city. Particularly not by people who think it's appropriate to ask highly personal questions of people they haven't even met yet. It beats guys (and it always was guys) yelling things out of cars, which was a major feature of my life from about age 12 onward, but that's a pretty low bar to pass. No thanks.

    From the descriptions, it does sound like he has some sort of issue; approaching everyone the same way, using the exact same words, is kind of an indicator. To be clear, to be approached this way would make me very uncomfortable. That said, I don't see where he's done anything to be arrested for.

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28. JoB
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    jiggers...

    datamuse is right.
    male attention is not always welcome
    and is seldom a compliment

    when it is
    it's generally appreciated

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29. jwws
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    JoB/JanS,

    Follow the link to the first story and read some of the comments from women who have interacted with this guy over the past 3 months - he's not some sweet misguided old man - really creepy behavior if you ask me - approaching high school students and younger women - one poster said he made explicit suggestions to her and he's doing it every week.
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    I know you are friendly with Jiggers (and I usually smirk at most of his posts) but the "tang" comment and sarcasm over what is distressing to some younger women is really uncalled for - IMHO this is not a situation to be made light of.

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30. kootchman
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    Well JoB maybe he hasn't met you yet.... you might just stun him back to reality... such are your powers.

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31. MargL
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    Hmmm - where to draw the line on 'appropriate' behavior... Duane Starkenburg thought it was OK to do a faceplant in a woman's buttocks to say "Hello"... now it turns out he's being investigated for child rape. Before getting to the point of doing faceplants did Duane try approaching women and making overly personal comments, invading personal space? We don't know.
    I'm not sure if all the women this old guy is approaching told him his behavior was inappropriate or just shrugged it off, but anyone that feels that uncomfortable should do more than shrug it off. There's a trend, the police should at least know that much - who knows what he might try next - flashing, touching, getting off in his car (maybe he already does that EEEEEEWWWW!)
    Abuse or bullying or inappropriate behavior does not always have to be physical to be wrong, or cause to report to the authorities, and in some cases it might prevent more detrimental behavior later on.
    I'm _not_ saying the police need to haul this guy away, but they might at least like to talk to him about what he's doing.

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32. jwws
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    Thank you MargL - you are the voice of reason - he may have mental health issues etc but for the love of God he is disturbing a majority of women in the Admiral area (just look at the posts/comments) so yes he needs to be watched/talked to - perhaps by the SPD (and this does not mean taken into custody)

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33. maude
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    not long ago one Larry King was shot and killed by Brandon McInerney because of alleged unwanted sexual advances (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/gay-rights-group-no-second-trial-in-larry-king-slaying.html). What would the world come to if women turned around and did the same thing every time some guy made comments to her? Probably be a lot more peaceful for us. Just sayin'. Next time you are alone, at night, fellas, wonder what it might be like for a gaggle of jerks to haggle you sexually. How would you like the thought of being violated where and when you don't want to be?

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34. JoB
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    jwws

    yes,i do like jiggers...
    but then, i have met him
    and know that sometimes he is just running off his mouth to see if he gets a reaction.

    i am sure the intent of "tang" was to get a reaction..
    but i don't think it was meant to be quite the insult that you heard
    at least, i hope not.

    kootch...

    really .. do you really think i can set people straight with nothing more than the power of my presence?

    cool.

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35. datamuse
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    Wouldn't it be awesome if you could, JoB? ;)

    The thing is, somebody's behavior can make you uncomfortable and you can tell them to stop it. Doesn't mean they will. Doesn't mean they won't hassle somebody else. If you think about what a tiny percentage of the population of West Seattle is actually active on this forum, and the number of complaints among that tiny percentage about this one guy...odds are against his being genuinely unaware that a significant number of women find his behavior disturbing. Which means he either likes making women uncomfortable, or he can't help it. I'm leaning toward the latter, but not having encountered this guy I'm not really qualified to judge.

    Not having met Jiggers, I'm not really qualified to judge him, either, but dude, I'm not terribly impressed by what you've said here. If you wanted a reaction, yay, you got one. Congratulations.

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36. anonyme
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    Even in this day and age, women are brainwashed to always be "nice", even when confronted with outrageous or inappropriate behavior. We need to learn to trust our gut. Many studies have proven that "creepy feelings" in such cases are usually justified. Unfortunately, many such studies were based on actual criminal cases involving sexual predation and violence. I'd probably tell the guy to bugger off, then call the cops - and let him know I was doing so.

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37. anonyme
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    Has anyone who has actually seen this guy checked the Sex Offender Registry?

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38. Jiggers
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    No wonder why I don't see guys getting up and giving up their seats on the bus to the ladies or opening up their car doors anymore. Let them stand all the way back on their own two feet to West Seattle. I used to see guys give their seats up when I was in school, but not today. Go figure.

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39. kootchman
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    Jiggers, women have inserted themselves into combat arms int he military, they carry weapons as police, they are firefighters, workd construction jobs, attend colleges at higher rates then men, make more money in the engineering fields.. dainty flowers they aren't. Why would I insert myself in a one on one? They've come a long way baby.... now a mom with a couple of kids in tow, geriatric, handicapped.. sure, I will render aid.

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40. kootchman
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    Maude? You think there are any straight males here that have not been the object of interest of other males? Blood is not running down the streets.. 99 per cent of the time we state our non interest and that ends that. We don't shoot and most men are not "homophobic". Ah the culture vs nature debate. Are men more aggressive? yep... as is virtually every single male mammal. Funny how ya go to the personals... and the the reverse is..they want a tall, masculine type...c'mon we have a natural program that culture can temper but not eliminate.

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41. Jiggers
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    yeah..kootch. The women's right to equality movement certainly has changed men's attitudes about them in a lot of ways. I ride the bus quite a bit, and if I see an elderly lady that would benefit a seat more than I, I would gladly give it up in which I have before. Now only if we could get them to buy us more dinners at a nice restaraunt, that would be some trick. It's not like I'm asking to marry you. Some good food, wine and conversation never hurt. Oh oh... did I put my foot in my mouth again? Hello))))))))))) knock knock! But ladies, flattery comes in a lot of different forms, and it also doesn't happen everyday to you. But I guess the poor elderly man may have been strange but.. do you think he really had bad intentions?

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42. JanS
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    jiggers..give it up. You're not going to win on this one. He may be a harmless old man, but maybe he's not. If he did this once or twice, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. But if it happens over and over again, the guy has a problem....or at least seems to have. We just need to pay attention..a lot.

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43. Jiggers
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    I guess I'm a baaaaad man, immature, what else do you ladies want to label me as...oh mysogonistic now? Yeah I better give it up. Kind of like a pack of wolves ganging up on a wounded antelope. Ok I won't post on this thread anymore.

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44. JoB
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    Jiggers
    Even if that comment was tongue in cheek
    It deserves a big fat Grow up

    Get a grip dude

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45. kootchman
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    Jiggers... I believe you won on this one.

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46. Jiggers
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    Well..I'm still trying to dry my socks after last night's downpour.I'm a bit punchy.

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47. bnoyes
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    Dang. West Seattle Blog is off the hook. I'm still trying to figure out if Jiggers and kootchman are the same person, or if they're both just half as smart as a regular human being. Or, somehow, both. Anyway, it's good to know that more people are now aware of this old creep and his bothersome antics.

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48. jwws
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    bnoyes,

    I believe Jiggers and kootchman are twin brothers from different mothers separated at birth and brought together by the power of the WS Blog.

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49. JoB
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    Jews
    Lol.. having met both I can tell you there is more truth to that than you know

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50. jwws
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    JoB,

    How did you know my REAL middle initial (true story)???? (which I never use for obvious reasons - LOL)

    ;-)
    jwws

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