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real bad change

Started 7 months ago by Jbell
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Jbell
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HOW YA ALL LIKE THE HOPE AND REAL CHANGE.

Real Change is panhandling pure and simple...since you all love it so much, it is now at the entrance to every grocery store in West Seattle except the Met. Real change is like getting junk mail. Don't need it ...don't want it. Soon West Seattle will be just like downtown with tents and camps of urban campers you all like to call the homeless. I call them on vacation at my expense, mostly drunks and drug addicts living off the land. Hope your property values get better as this "benefit" gets more common.

Love it when they ride the bus for free...OH you don't ride the bus???....well try it ,you will become a tea party fan in one day.

Posted 7 months ago #
JanS
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wow...such anger abut that which you know nothing. I am assuming that you're talking about Nickelsville when you talk about "urban campers". You do knkow there are no drugs and alcohol allowed there, and that a fair proportion of the people who live there actually do work. You know that...right?" Oh, you don't? Well, maybe you should get educated. In the meantime, here in the Admiral District, there is plenty of drinking, and lots of drugs being enjoyed...and the people have homes, and jobs, and cars...but that's ok with you....right?

Posted 7 months ago #
Jbell
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No Not concerned with Nickelsville...just the single real change bums in my hood...you must be a renter.

Posted 7 months ago #
EmmyJane
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Jbell - here are my thoughts for what they're worth (if you want them). I get it, I honestly do because I grew up in a middle class world where I will never experience anything near doing without because my family will always take care of me. That, in itself, limits me ever being able to fully understand the real world that so many face. I feel like people tend to talk in terms of ideal. When we talk ideal, I agree - everyone should be working and supporting themselves, no one should be on drugs and living off others, etc. etc. etc. But the fact is that we don't live in an ideal world and so we have to form solutions around the reality that isn't ideal. Fact is that people get addicted to drugs for many reasons. Fact is the economy is horrible and many are homeless or pretty close. And so we have to form solutions around these facts that are less than ideal. I understand that things like Real Change don't fit into the perfect picture of ideal, but they fit into people trying to make it in the real world and that takes some patience and understanding on our parts. So, that's all I got.

Posted 7 months ago #
Jbell
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Emmy...I get it .. but I work hard for my peace. We have grown soft, some of these folks like to rub their stink into your day to make a point about their situation. ,,caused by their own weakness. Have you ridden the 4 bus up to Harborview?. Not much meat left on the bone. They like to rob your peace. You willing to die to share?

Posted 7 months ago #
FullTilt
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please don't feed the trolls.

Posted 7 months ago #
EmmyJane
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Thanks for your response Jbell. I work very hard too and often have the same frustrations as you. In fact, I wish I was naturally compassionate in all ways, but I'm not naturally toward people or things that I feel can fend for themselves (I have a soft spot for animals and children that I don't think can). After a lot of years and lot of thought I've come to my thoughts that I have to start thinking in a different term of reality than I would love to exist. I think it requires accepting a lot of things that are going to be a truth as long as I live.

I guess that's where I am but of course there are a lot of people with different opinions and we live in a country with hundreds of millions of people so we have to find a way to all live together.

P.S. - I went to Haborview for my general care when I first moved to Seattle. I still remember the doctor asking me why I went there when I had private insurance and I didn't understand at the time (from a small town). I'm very sensitive so honestly the sadness that I feel far overcomes any sort of judgment I have. I guess someone "rubbing their stink in my day" as you put it is a slight inconvenience for someone like me that has so much when they have so little.

Anyways, I hope I didn't come across as insensitive because I'm extremely sensitive, just trying to explain my personal journey from "what's mine is mine" to being more open.

Posted 7 months ago #
kootchman
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I am not the profile,or preferred demographic of Real Change. Fact I am sure of it. However, that being said, for a buck, I have made n economic exchange. On occasion, you might ask what is inside that they would suggest I read. Yo may be very surprised. Is it artificial?.. probably. But I get to, in a very vey small way, reinforce what I believe... sell me a product..don't ask for a handout. I will pay fo information.

Posted 7 months ago #
velo_nut
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Troll. Troll. Troll. Troll. Troll.

Posted 7 months ago #
casaboba
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Each week I purchase a copy of REAL CHANGE from George outside of Met Market. I like REAL CHANGE. I like George. I like North Admiral and its diversity. If REAL CHANGE or George or Met Market left the neighborhood I would miss them. jbell you should move if these things irritate you. I doubt if I would miss you. XOX

Posted 7 months ago #
datamuse
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There do seem to be quite a few around.

Bridges, that is.

Posted 7 months ago #
Halyn
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Datamuse wins the thread. Bonus points for the Hyperbole and a Half Avatar. That's my favorite of her comics. I'm hoping for a "Clean all the things!" apron for Christmas.

Sorry for the threadjack.

Posted 7 months ago #
RarelyEver
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Jbell - have you ever read Real Change? It's actually a fantastic little paper with great information that you don't generally find in other newspapers. As far as the homeless go, perhaps you'd be better off moving to Mercer Island or Bellevue? Me, I like being around the 99%. :)

Posted 7 months ago #
JoB
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jbell...

i like the real Hope
I read Real Change
and i only buy from licensed vendors...

Posted 7 months ago #
Jiggers
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It's funny that if you don't have a roof over your head, you are "stereotyped"as a druggie or alchy. What makes someone else better, who has a roof their head, but they smoke dope and drink everynight, and is always late paying their rent or can't hold a job down? See the light?

Posted 7 months ago #
munchkin22
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We have purchased Real Change on occasion, but instead of walking off with one we tell them to sell it to another customer. Stretches the dollar that way for them. At least they have the initiative to sell something to make money instead of holding a cardboard sign that states a questionable message to get money.
Jiggers, you're right, a roof over ones head does not make them better than anyone else. Since May we've acquired many friends down at Nickelsville that I would trust without a thought, and they only have ripstop nylon and blue tarps over their heads.
Do we know the story behind the Real Change vendor? Do they know ours? Does it really matter? Free enterprise, maybe that may sound familiar Jbell.

Posted 7 months ago #
Ken
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I read it online and give the vendor a buck anyway.

I lived downtown for many years and decades in larger east coast cities. We don't have a panhandling problem here in Seattle. It will be obvious when it happens.

The concept that only renters can have empathy or that all homeowners have a higher IQ than a turnip is absurd as well.

I don't think this is a troll. It might be a theofascist wingnut I have had to smack around on another forum though.. Hard to tell the difference when the parrots all use the same phrasing though.

Posted 7 months ago #