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Rant: seattle summer streets

Started 2 years ago by tsunaminw
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tsunaminw
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So once again the mind-numbed robots who believe in junk science and global warming, and our worthless and ineffective mayor, have imposed on us another Seattle summer streets day this Sunday.
I wake up to find no parking signs up and down both sides of Alki letting us know that even when we own a property(rent or own shouldnt matter in this case though) that if we have street parking we cannot park at our home and have to drive somewhere for the day to park to allow bicycles and pedestrians to use the street.
We have a huge bike lane that we paid for, and a huge pedestrian path we paid for, which doesnt cross traffic and is unobstructed for miles.
Our cars pay for these streets, and yet this day the bike and walking paths aren't good enough for these hippies and Obama groupies.
They have added enough bogus potpourri to the event telling us we get to meet our neighbors and all, but has anyone spoken to the businesses down here?
Last year I spoke to a 4 people I know who own prominent businesses here and they had the complaint that business was dead that day.
I also saw the punks above the tattoo shop screaming at a driver going home who lives locally(I know him) to get out of his car or they would break his windshield.
And the booths were as exciting as chewing on cardboard, leftovers from the patchouli stinking folklife festival and people who seemed to have been kicked out of the food court at the Puyallup fair.

Thanks Seattle, for puting out locals to allow a bunch of global warming nazis to take over the street for the day when they already have a huge taxpayer funded place to walk and ride. Brilliant.

I plan to take a few long drives in my v8 the following week, let the car idle as long as possible before I go anywhere, buy lots of bottled water in tiny containers, and maybe even load up on my styrofoam, leave all the lights on at my home day and night for the next few weeks. If you want to be crazy and make others pay the price, I can play the same game.

Posted 2 years ago #
swimcat
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wow- that sounds like a mature plan of action. That will show 'em!

Posted 2 years ago #
austin
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Boo frickin hoo..

Posted 2 years ago #
mrhineh
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"I believe in the soul. The c***. The p****. The small of a woman's back. The hanging curveball. High fiber. Good scotch. That the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a Constitution Amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas eve. And I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days...Good day."
HTH

Posted 2 years ago #
bird87
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wow.. in this day and age.. it's a sad state of affairs when people can't deal without a car for a single day! walk it's good for your heart and the environment, not to mention if you have children it would be a good example to set. Be a leader in your community, not a hater!!!

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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I am so glad the nutjobs are no longer in charge.

Posted 2 years ago #
alki_2008
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As a note...there are a lot of senior citizens that live on Alki Ave and need their cars to get to church, shopping, etc on Sundays. There are even some non-seniors that don't have the luxury of good enough health to get them around town on their own two feet. To assume that everyone is able-bodied enough to go without a car is a bit presumptious. Just sayin'

On another note, the car-free day doesn't bother me too much...but I don't "have to" drive Alki Ave to get to/from home and my Sunday schedule is such that I could work with the Water Taxi schedule if I wanted to get somewhere on Alki Ave.

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tsunaminw
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I have no issue with going without a car, that was never mentioned. Nice attempt at changing the subject though.

The issue is people that park on the street who live here having to drive somewhere else so people can walk and ride right next to a perfect walking/bike path.

I also mentioned many other issues like lost business, which you choose to ignore.

I take the water taxi to work, ride my bike here every day, and my car sits for days sometimes. My dad was with the department of fish and wildlife, and was vp for wind energy corp in palm springs, I am a member of the surfrider foundation and an avid kayaker. I work for a green builder. And none of these things changes what I said.

Nice try hippies. You deserve a mayor like Nickels, and more of the likes of Cantwell, Murray, Locke, Lowry, and Gregoire. They are karma for you lemmings.

Posted 2 years ago #
villagegreen
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tsunaminw - your diatribe sorta explains why so many of my friends from other parts of the city continue to believe West Seattle is full of self-entitled, whiny, yuppies.

Posted 2 years ago #
Ken
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I am glad the nutjobs are no longer in charge...

However.

I despise the "Green Theater" almost as much as the Airport "Security Theater" and for the same reasons.

It is just for show. It is an opportunity for politicians to pretend to be concerned about the environment.

I almost never go to Alki and will not have a problem staying away on that day.

If the politician who organized this want to save some gas, lets see them hold this in Pioneer square or on Capitol Hill.

We (the city government) spend millions to rehab streams that are still so toxic they kill fish where they meet the bay, and pave only one side of a street that washes road debris right into that same stream while undemining the new pavement by letting the water erode gullies on the other side.

All the "Green" builders in WS contribute to far rightwing causes and use "Green" as a smokescreen.
Be sure to visit their PR booths on Alki while you are walking from the bus.

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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The merits of Car-free Alki are debatable. The debate on whether global warming exists and whether humans are the major cause is over, at least among scientists.

Posted 2 years ago #
sam-c
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I have heard that businesses were affected by this last year, and was wondering if WSB would have to do a car-free day edition of "what's open/ what's closed" on Alki.

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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The merits of Car-free Alki are debatable. The debate on whether global warming exists and whether humans are the major cause is over, at least among scientists.

Wrong, almost half of the IPCC has rejected the theories and threatened to sue them because they continue to use their names as part of that movement when they have disagreed.
Even the founder of Greenpeace and the founder of the weather channel have said this is a militant movement that is motivated more by the financial potential and have used bad science and emotion to bully people who disagree.
Assuming this debate is over is narrow minded, but I am sure it makes you feel enlightened to believe this.

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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Hoookayyy....

If it's motivated by money, how come the Republicans aren't on board?

Posted 2 years ago #
WSB
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You know, I walked the whole stretch last year. Duke's was quoted in a preview story as saying they were worried. I took a photo - their deck was jammed. All the other Alki eateries I stuck my head into were busy. But if any businesses that were hurt would care to come forward, I would be happy to do a story on them. And if you know of anyone who is closing, let me know. Last year I spent time canvassing the stretch and didn't come up with anybody who decided to close. There are going to be a lot of people out, with the day starting with hundreds of participants in the West Seattle 5K, so I don't think it's going to be a ghost town, but as always, we will report on what we find ...

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tsunaminw
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I am not a republican or democrat so I cannot answer this. Insanity exists on both sides and they both are motivated by greed.

But again, this comment is just changing the subject, pointing at another group etc. instead of addressing the specific facts or issues mentioned.
I have plenty of gripes about both sides, and the main one with liberal democrats is the inability to stick to facts and issues in a debate. Emotion always takes over and they shut down or change the subject when they disagree.

Posted 2 years ago #
AdamOnAlki
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villagegreen,

Uhhh...I am pretty sure "they" don't think of West Seattle full of yuppies. My whole life I have always been giving the impression of it being a "hippie" compound.

Posted 2 years ago #
JenV
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why not just have "car free days" in the junction? it will benefit businesses, have little or no impact on people, since few live there - and that way, no one gets all butt-hurt about missing their cars on Alki.

and you all don't even KNOW hippie compound - uh, take the ferry to Vashon for that noise.

Posted 2 years ago #
mrhineh
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So to clarify the intent of your concern, its about parking your car, right?
"I wake up to find no parking signs up and down both sides of Alki letting us know that even when we own a property(rent or own shouldnt matter in this case though) that if we have street parking we cannot park at our home and have to drive somewhere for the day to park to allow bicycles and pedestrians to use the street"
Or, do you own a business that is impacted?
"Last year I spoke to a 4 people I know who own prominent businesses here and they had the complaint that business was dead that day."
Or is it the various nutjobs?
"So once again the mind-numbed robots who believe in junk science and global warming, and our worthless and ineffective mayor, have imposed on us another Seattle summer streets day this Sunday."
Its getter hard to read through the emotions, so lets clarify again please.

Posted 2 years ago #
alki_2008
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tsunaminw - do you have to be so hostile in your posts?

Regarding the parking situation...what proportion of people that LIVE in Alki don't have off-street parking? Have any stats on that? The condo zone should have sufficient garage/underground parking...the houses a bit north/west of the condos have that sidewalk-ish parking (is that restricted too?)...and there aren't a lot of "residents" parking in the shopping area between 57th and 63rd anyway.

Yeah, it's a pain-in-the-arse to re-park if you usually park on Alki Ave...but it's just part of living in Alki. I can't believe that people would move to Alki and expect that they wouldn't have to deal with the area being a 'destination'. Alki Beach isn't JUST for the residents of Alki. We don't have private beach rights, and if there weren't non-Alki people coming to Alki then the restaurants and shops wouldn't be here.

Posted 2 years ago #
sam-c
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From post 10: "It is just for show. It is an opportunity for politicians to pretend to be concerned about the environment."

I too feel like this event is more about the theatrics of appearing green than actually being green. I wish the City of Seattle would save the money (to hire police and whatever this event costs) and use it to build flippin sidewalks!! there are several streets in this city that don't have sidewalks, and frankly some people come flying along the street like you're not even walking along....

Posted 2 years ago #
Al
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I look forward to "car free day." Last year and likely this year, it's one of the only times I even go to Alki. There's too much traffic and people otherwise. We will make a point to have lunch down there too.

Residents who only have access to their homes via Alki can still drive to/from home. You just can't park there. For less than 24 hrs.

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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Your attempt to be witty is still nothing but a smokescreen to avoid the issues, all of which you mentioned are true.

I know it is tough, but stay with me for a moment and I will attempt to dumb it down for you so you dont get confused.

We have local business owners, many who live above the business and have no need to commute. They create a community that enables us to walk to shops, grocery stores etc. which means less driving.

We live in an area that people come to specifically to ride bikes, walk, etc. Very few come just to drive and unless I am mistaken we even have an anti cruising ordinance.

Now, help me understand why a group thinks it is intelligent to have everyone who lives here drive their cars elsewhere to park, to clear the way for people who live at a distance to drive down and walk and ride their bikes down the middle of the street, when we alredy have an expensive bike path and walking path right along the beach?

If the point is to lessen driving, why not increase shuttles, have the booths on the boardwalk, let everyone who lives here leave their cars where they are, and let everyone ride bikes and walk in the already designated paths we pay taxes to maintain?

Now, I know it is tough, but try sticking to the issues and dont divert by attempting to be a smartass.

How does this event help the environment by punishing local business, increasing the driving of cars that normally would stay parked on a nice day, and allow people to walk down the middle of a street paid by car tabs and licensing?

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tsunaminw
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I dont expect a private beach, visitors fund local business and we need it. If you want to increase that then open up the no parking zones all down the strip and allow a sign on I5 pointing to Alki Beach, something homeowners down here have selfishly stopped for years.
I live here "because" it is a destination and dont resent that at all, your missing the point entirely.
As a person working for a builder who is certified "green" I know very well how this movement and the state of Washington has placed more importance on looking green than having any real effect of being "green". Symbolism over substance. This is a destination where people already go to walk and ride, you encourage more to drive down and use the middle of the street when riding and walking paths already exist, only greenlake has something similar. And meanwhile locals have to drive to hide their car and businesses get killed that day. You tell me how that helps.

If you sense any hostility, it is out of a sense of hatred for stupidity. So prove me wrong and give me some real reasons why the price is worth paying when the events could be held in much more effective areas. This is just a showpiece that has no real effect of any kind except a negative one to those who live and work here.

And I dont have stats for those that dont have off street parking, but if you take a drive down the strip it is easy to see how many don't, even in winter the street is full of residents who live here and have no parking space. Renters and homeowners alike. I know most of my neighbors for 2 blocks in either direction of my home and can think of at least 15 people, many over the retirement age.

Posted 2 years ago #
swimcat
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I think this event is just to raise awareness about using your own body to get around for a bit. Trust me, there are a lot of people out there who are not active, and if this encourages them to walk further than they normally would for just one day, maybe they'll decide they could take a short walk every day. That's not such a bad thing, is it?

It is only ONE DAY; in the big picture this just doesn't seem like it is worth getting riled up about.

Posted 2 years ago #
alki_2008
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tsunaminw - when you say "you" in your posts...could you maybe be more specific to who exactly you're responding to? Yeah - I guess we're all just too stupid to figure that out. Not every post in this thread is directly specifically at YOU, some of it is just general commentary. You're not THAT important. Geez, I hope you don't work for the the green builder I have for my remodel. Yikes.

The car-free day (ONE DAY A YEAR) isn't just about being green, and the 'officials' aren't going to tow cars parked on Alki Ave...so if a resident wants to just leave their car on Alki and not re-park, then feel free. You'll get a notice, but won't get towed (as long as you're not obstructing the run/walk event or the water taxi).

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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If they allow residents to leave their cars for the day, that solves the issue in that area.

It still hurts locals businesses, and still does not make sense to hold this event here when they already have a well used well known bike and walking path. People come here to use that as much as the beach itself. There is no need to hijack the street when a perfectly good path exists right next to it.

As a green builder, most get certified to say they have it. Most who have it say the problem is that they hold a score more important than things that actually have an impact. And very very few people request this because the cost is higher than a non green remodel.
As a real estate agent and marketing director for a builder, less than 2% are looking for greenbuilt homes and remodels. And my personal opinions have no effect on the quality of work done in either case. Although I do understand the importance of voting with your dollars and choose myself not to support those business that are in conflict with my personal values, that is a right everyone should excercise.
The motivation behind this group is specifically global warming awareness, and my disgust in this theory entirely doesnt change the fact that if you really wanted to do something that had an effect and not just a symbolic gesture to get votes, many other areas could be used or a different approach entirely in this area which I mention above multiple times.

How is it a crowd twice as large is planning on getting down here in the first place? Exceptions exist but most will drive down. And local businesses get hurt even with a larger crowd. This is a fact. These businesses have a tough time and starve in winter just to make a profit each summer. If they leave, it means we have to drive rather than walk to give our business to those at the top of the hill. How does that help?
In this economy, nothing should be done that hurts small local business, nothing. If they fail, it hurts everyone.

Posted 2 years ago #
Al
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So tsunaminw, are you going to participate and have lunch or a snack at a local business on Alki?

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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Oooo... very tricky, Al! Gotta vote with our dollars... Don't want to hurt small businesses...

But if they make money during car-free days, that will just encourage the "global warming nazis" who want to take all our cars away....

What's a concerned climate change denier to do?

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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I live on the strip if you hadn't noticed, and am friends personally with at least 5 of the owners here. I give them my business every day and pay more at Alki Urban Market rather than Safeway whenever possible because I want them to stay. Small business is key and always has been. I love my neighborhood and dont plan to leave anytime soon, and I love that others enjoy it too.
I have made a point on this absurd event and will again this year to patronise anyone I can down here that day to make up for what they will lose.

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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I am glad you support local businesses. I'm glad you realize that those businesses wouldn't exist without lots of visitors to your neighborhood. I agree that car-free day has some silly aspects to it and probably isn't the best way to fight global warming, or even raise awareness of it. (Won't all those people just park a little further away?)

However, I also believe that if there's even the slightest chance that humans are causing global temperatures to rise (and most scientists agree we are), it's something we ought to be very concerned about, because it's not something we can fix quickly or easily. If melting ice caps cause the water level to rise even a little bit, Alki will be permanently car-free.

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tsunaminw
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I think you contradict yourself, if the event is to raise awareness and yet they hurt business and just make people park further away then it is self defeating.

there have been over 700 ice ages in the lifespan of the planet, and cars have been around for maybe 100 years out of a few million or so. Thinking that now that we humans are here that we have to keep everything exactly as it is is unreasonable and unrealistic. We don't need to blatantly damage things without cause, but assuming if sea levels rise a few inches that we caused it and/or could stop it is silly to me.
Growing up in san diego on the beach erosion constantly had pieces of people backyards dropping into the ocean, its a constant ebb and flow.
Even the polar ice caps grow and shrink. Temps have been much higher and much lower in the past thousand years. And those ice formations that we thought were drastically shrinking have recently been blown apart after finding that our instruments that measure were way out of alignment and misread the data entirely. We really have little understanding of science and we see a small piece and jump to conclusions in many areas only to find later we had only looked at a few hundred years of measurable data out of a few million. Species come and go and have done so before we were here.

I teach martial arts, and in this area we see traditional and modern arts arguing between themselves. The traditionalists feel that modern arts are the end of them, and they must preserve the old ways.
And yet to get here in this day and age, those traditional arts had to constantly adapt and grow to be what they are now. Over a few thousand years change was invaluable.To stay effective in combat they had to change based on terrain, metallurgy knowledge, and even the enemy you fought.
But now there is a sense of honor in putting the form as it is now in a jar and preserving it, in effect letting it grow stagnant and die. This is laughable and silly, and encourages following something that has died and contains no real value in practical everyday use. Sure there is a beauty, but it isnt a martial art any longer but a flowery dance.

My point is, change is constant, and keeps things fresh the same way a desert floods and dries up every year. Forest fires clear dead wood, disease culls the weak, change is constant.

Also constant is the fearful who try and keep everything the same, to the point of being so arrogant as to think we have caused something that has happened hundred of not thousands of times before we were even here. We have adapted, and if the planet were 100% covered in ice we would adapt and change. There is a beauty in nature and fighting it is denying the nature of the earth itself.

And I am sorry but the statement "most scientists agree" is misleading and untrue. It may be a popular thing to jump on this bandwagon but we see many large numbers running away from this. You see what you want to see. But it is far from the whole picture.

Posted 2 years ago #
alki_2008
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Regarding the location of the car-free day at Alki...this weekend is the first of ~9 car-free days (aka Summer Streets) in 2009. There will be similar events in Ballard, Greenwood/Phinney, Rainier Valley, U-District, etc. It's not as though Alki is the only place that has to accommodate this type of event. For those that don't like the event, then vote for someone other than Nickels. There isn't much else that can be done about it for this year.

Having an event (the 5k) to coincide with the car-free day is something new this year in Alki, and it will be interesting to see if that changes anything for the businesses on the strip. It should be less of a 'down' day this year than last. Let's see how it goes.

Posted 2 years ago #
swimcat
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Troll alert.

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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I didn't contradict myself. I said all along the merits of car-free day and its usefulness are debatable.

The difference between climate change as it is happening now, and all the previous eras of natural warming and cooling, is that it is happening MUCH more rapidly than it EVER has before.

I'd suggest you watch "An Inconvenient Truth", but I'm sure you'd tell me it's hysterical liberal propaganda. You see what you want to see.

Posted 2 years ago #
Jeannie
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I loved car-free day last year. No car exhaust, thumping car stereos, roaring motorcycles, crazy drivers, etc. And yes, I like the idea of patronizing the small businesses along the way. I have a feeling they will do just fine. Living along Alki has its inconveniences, but just deal with it, people! It also has its benefits. Enough rants already...geez, would you rather be living in Iraq?

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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The fact that living in Iraq is a worse alternative has nothing to do with a dumb event that serves little purpose and does damage to local business. That is irrelevant.
The businesses did not "do fine", and why deal with stupidity if you dont have to.
And you just throw a bunch of clutter into the conversation that does not in any single instance address any issue mentioned. Not once.

I did see Inconvenient Truth and am happy to debate any issue you learned from watching it Kbear. It was liberal propaganda.
Now I challenge you to watch The Great Global Warming Swindle, but I'm sure you'd tell me it's hysterical liberal propaganda. You see what you want to see.

Faster than ever before? No, faster than we have seen on record with the limited equipment and only recently recorded data that doesn't go very far back in relation to the overall lifespan.

Posted 2 years ago #
JimmyG
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If the powers that came up with this car-free crap required ALL attendees to walk, cycle, or use public transport to get there (no matter how far away they were coming from) then I wouldn't have an issue with it.
But there's no way to enforce that, so people will drive their individual cars from all over, park in outlying neighborhoods and hike into Alki (and all the other later locations) feeling smug about their joining in this "green" community block party.

It does nothing to help the environment and is just another vanity project for the politicians that came up with it. I'm sure it's one of the wonderful things Mayor Schnickels will tout in his campaign literature to show what wonderful things he's done for us.

I can think of a lot better ways to spend our city dollars on than for the extra police OT, the SDOT OT, etc.

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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Thank you sir, you said exactly what I am thinking, and many others who live here and see and talk to each other about how useless and stupid this thing is.

You know how much it cost the city just to plan this event, including putting the no parking signs out, take them down etc?
From city employees I am getting numbers of 20k just for placing and removing the signs.

Posted 2 years ago #
Dunno
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Mr. T has some good points! Why not move the event to other parts of West Seattle. WS Junction
already has the street fair, why not shut down the Admiral district for 10 or 15 blocks and have everyone move cars, then move it to Morgan Junction, next High Point, then Lincoln Park/Fauntleroy, ect?
Another Alki note, SPD need to crack down on noise. The cars putting out base that makes car alarms go off, c'mon!

Posted 2 years ago #
alki_2008
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I do agree that the event is pretty pointless, but it's already going to happen - so just trying to accept it and hope that it's better this year (less business losses due to addition of 5k & no residents' cars towed away/ticketed) and that we're car-free-day-free next year.

What really surprises me is that there were 3 such events last year to see how things would go, and apparently the "powers that be" thought it was successful enough that there are three times as many events this year? I don't get it. I can't imagine that Alki was the only neighborhood that took issue (slow business, hassles for residents, cost concerns) with the events in 2008...so why would they expand the program this year?

Can't wait for a new mayor...and disappointed in Crunican again, as she was a proponent for the events last year and surely played a role in continuing/expanding the program this year.

Posted 2 years ago #
Lucile 2
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Do people actually still drive to Alki? That's just stupid.

Posted 2 years ago #
KBear
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Well, tsunaminw, we disagree on global warming.

I am glad you saw "An Inconvenient Truth". Perhaps we can agree on this much: Who would have thought that ANYONE would pay to see a movie of Al Gore delivering a slideshow, AND that it would win two Oscars?

Regarding your posts in other threads, I agree with you 100% about emergency sirens and True Value Hardware.

Posted 2 years ago #
datamuse
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Do people actually still drive to Alki? That's just stupid.

Gee, thanks.

I live just down in Highland Park, but that's over an hour by bus. Even with adding the time to find parking, driving doesn't take anywhere near that long.

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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I would never have padi to see an Al Gore flick any more than Michael Moore flick, but I did download it for free on bittorrent so I could see the other side. It pretty much made me lose a little more faith in humanity that that film got half the attention it did with shoddy science and I personally am happy to tear apart his data with facts to back it up.
But those who love him or his movement are not persuaded by facts, thats where the "we see what we want to see" comes into play.

As far as the other posts, agreed. I have many friends who disagree with me, and it is their right to be wrong,lol.

Posted 2 years ago #
JanS
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Hello, folks, perspective. I live in the Admiral District by Safeway. One Saturday every year as far back as I can rememberwe are shut down...my street, California Ave. from Admiral to the Alaska junction...it's called a Hi-Yu Parade. Businesses suffer? I know don't schedule clients that day...Safeway hates it, as do most others along the route. Do I hear you all clamoring about it? No...It's tradition. It's only for about half a day, it's not like every day. Do I wake up to bands practicing, marching units practicing, pirates wandering around, etc, etc, etc.? Of course I do.Am I inconvenienced? You bet. What about those people who live along the route who can't get their cars out...or what if they needed emergency service quickly? So...I guess you all know where I'm going with this. Get over yourselves and your complaints for the one day closure of Alki. It happens elsewhere, too. Sigh...

enjoy the sun, take a walk, patronize a restaurant..make the most of the day..it'll be beautiful...

Posted 2 years ago #
tsunaminw
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First of all I dont live by the Safeway, and if I saw it have the same effect I would say something.

Second, if the Safeway was a small business and I knew the owners as I have stated clearly I do some down here on Alki, I would say something.

Third of all, I never mentioned the noise, I would prefer the live concerts come back that so many old farts complained about and got rid of, and I love waking up the the sound of a huge volleyball tourney.

Third, it isnt half a day, it is all day.

I will be making the most of it, patronising the busineses since they take a hit on these days, and will live. But it isn't necessary or worthwhile and the point is we shouldn't have to put up with stupidity unless you stay silent and do nothing which it seems you have resigned to do.

But, if you choose to stay silent, don't expect others to do so.
And if you decide to post, how about sticking to the points mentioned rather than brushing it all off. I will live, it wont kill anyone, of course its beautiful.
But that isn't the point now is it.

Posted 2 years ago #
bsmomma
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I am a firm believer in what you put out there is what you will get. In other words tsunaminw will probably have a miserable day being negative about everything going on and I will have a fabulous day doing the WS5K and spending time outside with my daughter. Everyone is entitled to there opinion and feelings but seriously, we get it. Stop raining on our parade! It's going to be a fun day. Honestly, I am not into all the global warming and be green stuff. I recycle because I am told I have to. I'm excited to celebrate "Seattle Summer Streets"! Unfortunately this will be one of the very few days we visit Alki after 10am for the summer. So, I'm going to enjoy the heck out of it........ with or without tsunaminw!

Posted 2 years ago #
GenHillOne
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from tsunaminw on another recent thread:

"Anyone can rant, and the Reply button is for those who disagree and think they should get a life."

"I will do my best to not use the word crazy, but will continue to disagree when someone is unreasonable."

Perhaps, tsunaminw, something compelled you to come back after 9 months to explode all over the place, but you surely realize that it works both ways and that there will be people, by your own admission, who have the right to use the reply button when they disagree or think you're being unreasonable.

FWIW, I've never been a fan of this event, but your approach and including "breaking down idiots" as an interest in your profile makes it pretty impossible to take you seriously.

Posted 2 years ago #
swimcat
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Someone please shut tsunaminw down! I can't stand to read another bit of this irrational logic (especally if you look at any of his/her other posts on different threads!). Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. But it's like a trainwreck. Reminds me of the old 'lattemom' and 'cinnamon' days. Oh goodness!

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