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Started 3 years ago by MissK
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MissK
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I posted this on another post, but thought it might get lost in that thread.

I found this interesting blog article on Palin\'s \"pregnancy\" of her youngest child.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137
Thoughts?

Posted 3 years ago #
charlabob
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Read it quickly; they\'re getting pressure to remove the article. I gotta say, her daughter looks a lot more pregnant than she does AND. The rest of the facts obviously need to be checked.

Thanks, MissK

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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If you scroll down almost towards the bottom of the page, there is a photo of Palin with her first pregnancy and 3 days before the last child\'s birth. She does NOT look ready to have a baby. It looks like she is wearing a belt. Hmmmm???? I hope they don\'t remove the blog post and I hope the facts are sorted out. I just find it interesting that all the pieces of the puzzle don\'t fit for this pregnancy.

Posted 3 years ago #
changingtimes
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omg! right out of desperate housewives!!

Posted 3 years ago #
GenHillOne
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While I love a story worthy of a Lifetime movie, a) if true, she would be crazy to enter the national spotlight with a secret like this and b) if not true, it would be tragic to put the 16-year-old through the rumor mill. Actually true or not, I don\'t like the idea of exposing the 16-year-old to this kind of scrutiny but if it\'s true, I would blame her mom, see a) above. As presented, things don\'t seem to add up. Facts need to be checked for sure.

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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I think people of power think they can protect themselves with that \"power.\" Look at Edwards, Clinton, the various religious leaders who were caught lieing. They thought that things would never get out, but hmmm they did. If this indeed is true I would say her career would pretty much be over before it begins. If this blog is taken down that would also make me wonder. I guess only time will tell?

Posted 3 years ago #
charlabob
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I have the articles and links snarfed away, so if it disappears, it won\'t really. (They are getting more sophisticated about cache.)

This is a very sad story. The story isn\'t the poor 16 year-old or the 50-s style \"my mother is really my grandmother\" story. I actually know two adults who found this out late in life.

All this dreadful vicious self-centered woman would have had to do is graciously decline the offer to be veep candidate. McInane would have gotten points and she could have saved her family the publicity. Frankly, no one cares who gets knocked up in the family of the governor of Alaska. The story was known there. Look at the damned pictures. \"Someone in this family is pregnant...wonder who it is?

Doing this, and then, as they will, whining about the story is not any kind of family value.

This is yet more proof that the theocratic right is only interested in the pre-born. Imagine the effect on the daughter. This might have been her choice; but you can bet your last pamper she didn\'t have a choice.

Posted 3 years ago #
bcollins
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the point should be qualifications for vp...not the qualifications for breeding...I am not a Palin fan, but I think the blog and this thread is out of line.

Posted 3 years ago #
Bonnie
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hmmm...interesting...

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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How can this be out of line? It\'s not about breeding it\'s about touting the pro-choice ideal and not ever being pregnant and having to make that choice. Also having the public think that she really held onto those ideals and chose to have a baby knowing it would be born with Down Syndrome. I think it shows a persons character and how they will conduct themselves whilst in office. So yes I think it\'s totally in line.

Posted 3 years ago #
charlabob
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Exactly, it\'s about lying -- about judgement. Pictures are easily altered -- videos? Not so much. As I said, I feel very bad for the daughter -- and furious at her mother for putting her through this. The party that wraps itself up in pious \"family values\" should at least vet the background of their main proposed mouthpiece for such values.

I predict a teary \"confession\" followed by loud complaints about the outing of this story. The only person responsible for the fact that this story is public is Palin. Period.

Posted 3 years ago #
beachdrivegirl
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I feel really really bad for the daughter! I read the article it did have some interesting questions and points but to bring an innocent 16 year old girl into this is just plain wrong.

Posted 3 years ago #
c@lbob
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Sara Palin fired Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan coincident with her staff pressuring Monegan to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, Palinâ€™s ex-brother-in-law. She likely forced her daughter to carry a child then pretended to be the mother of the child.

Palin\'s \"family values\" remind me a lot of those of the Hatfields and McCoys, of turn of the 20th century vendetta feud fame.

Right out of the Great Smoky Mountains.

Posted 3 years ago #
charlabob
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BDG, I agree with you and the person who brought the kid into the spotlight is her mother. The theocratic right is using Palin\'s carrying to term a DS child as proof of her family values. I\'m sure the most fanatic of them would have the same reaction to the true story -- but the repugs didn\'t want to take that chance. Never has my annoying nickname for them been more appropriate.

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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Correction to post #10 I meant pro-life ideals that the republican party touts, not pro-choice. Where was my mind????

Posted 3 years ago #
mellaw6565
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This thread is still based on the assumption that the story is true. Think about what the 16y/o will go through if it\'s not true and the spotlight stays on the rumor? So let\'s not pass judgement yet - although it still doesn\'t sway me on whether Palin\'s qualified to be VP - she\'s not.

Posted 3 years ago #
mellaw6565
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With the delay in the Convention caused by Gustav, this may give the main press time to research the story. If it is true, this close to the election McCain will lose for sure as it will definitely reflect his lack of judgment.

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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mellaw - That\'s what I thought when I first heard about the Edwards infidelity. That story broke by The National Enquirer. That was looked at as absolute bs......and turned out to be oh so right. I hope that the media can find out the truth. I just think that this country has had enough of \"Do as I say not as I do.\"

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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I think this is disgusting, horrendous and irresponsible reporting (if that\'s what you would call it).

What a horrible situation for a 16 year old girl to have to go through. I only see this claim being made by the more liberal media (although, I may not be researching enough). If anything, it confirms my feelings about most liberals more than anything.

As far as proof that it can\'t possibly be Mrs. Palin\'s, there is none. Palin looks exactly like I did when I was pregnant. I didn\'t even SHOW until the middle of the 7th month. When I was in the hospital for delivery, nurses couldn\'t believe I was even ready to deliver. Some women do not get huge when pregnant (it\'s actually not healthy to).

What a sad world we live in today.

Posted 3 years ago #
thriftwaygirl
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This is HUGE! This is a dangerous woman.

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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How, exactly, does this ridiculous, unsubstantiated rumor make Palin \"dangerous\"?

Posted 3 years ago #
mellaw6565
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NR - it\'s not ridiculous, just unsubstantiated. You would agree that if it is true, it would be the nail in her coffin and probably McCain\'s?

Posted 3 years ago #
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It will be interesting to see what becomes of this \"sotry\" ... been reading through a blog on Alaskan politics http://tinyurl.com/6enuba - some interesting stuff there!

Sarah Palin, seven months pregnant with her first child:

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp233/pooteeweet28/1stchild.jpg

Sarah Palin, seven months â€œpregnantâ€ with her fifth child:

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp233/pooteeweet28/31408.jpg

Posted 3 years ago #
thriftwaygirl
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The rumor is not what makes Palin dangerous, some may see this rumor as \"heroic\" defending the family like that.

I personally do not think it is right for any person in political office to allegedly lie to their constituents, but NR, in response to your question, it\'s my opinion that what makes this woman dangerous is her political views and policy.

Posted 3 years ago #
GenHillOne
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It\'s spreading like wildfire - now starting to hit celebrity gossip sites (per Google search). Is the Nat\'l Enquirer next?

Posted 3 years ago #
beachdrivegirl
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It is quite shocking when you compare the two photos..

Posted 3 years ago #
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I should say that the photos should be viewed with a skeptical eye - anything can be changed/edited these days. But still.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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i couldn\'t get to the photos..

but i do have to ask,

if she was pregnant.. how good is her judgment???

she delayed the birth for a speech, and 8 hour flight and then 45 minutes more to reach an obscure medical clinic.. with no medical attendance at all?

I know some women don\'t show much when they are pregnant..

but that isn\'t how any pregnant woman i have ever known reacts when her fluid starts leaking and her baby is premature...

something, somewhere is very wrong.

Posted 3 years ago #
Cait
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NewResident, you have got to be kidding me? You\'re just going to ignore all the horrible insinuations the conservative media made about Obama being a Muslim? That\'s not irresponsible and tasteless? The liberals of this country shouldn\'t be held accountable for the media their parts produces, nor should the conservatives, so please don\'t tell me that this confirms what you think about most liberals. Let this story be researched and drug through the mud like Obama\'s religion and Edward\'s baby. It\'s convention season - your party is going to have to do its time too, regardless of whether it involves a 16 year old girl. I feel horrible for her, but let\'s get it straightened out since her name is the mud anyway.

Posted 3 years ago #
charlabob
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Once again, let\'s make it clear if this story is true, the 16 year-old girl is the victim of her mother\'s incredible arrogance. ALL SHE HAD TO DO was say no when McCain asked her to run. I cannot say this validates what I think of most people on the right, because it\'s quite beyond what I would expect of the worst of them.

Posted 3 years ago #
Ken
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I scanned the dk diary and decided to ignore it.
The insinuation is a bit thin and I know enough not to base anything important on photos. If it has legs someone besides the tabloids will start churning it.

I actually don\'t care about whatever strange decisions she may or may not have made within her family.

I do care that she is so ignorant as to think the Pledge of Allegiance was written by the \"founding fathers\".
This is monumental ignorance or towering stupidity. Pick one.
See question 11

http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006/07/2006-gubernatorial-candidate.html

And if you want to see a few more examples of her fanatical terror of the public school system, Unions and 9 out of ten of the bill of rights, check out a few of the other answers.

Alaska may deserve her but the rest of us gotta draw the line somewhere.

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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Ken I actually care if a woman is going to stand on her soapbox about pro-life and use the example of her pregnancy to move people, and in actuality (if true) never had to \"choose\" to keep a pregnancy. Plus, be it as it may sometimes the tabloids are the first to crack a major story (Edwards) and then the legit news picks it up after more and more facts come out. She is also a heartbeat away from possibly running our entire country. Im sorry but this woman I DO NOT want running things.

Posted 3 years ago #
CountingCoup
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I believe its more than the issues, it\'s all about lying to the public...

Haven\'t we had enough of this in the last 8 years?

Palin, sweet child of mine? or maybe her daughters?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVwP6WA1PE8

Posted 3 years ago #
jennycollins
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I know how much both Democrats and Republicans love to find ways to put each other down...but this is just low.

http://townhall.com/blog/g/9b3375c7-6a27-4b5e-9204-b267282a1ce1

Can we please put this rumor to rest now?

Posted 3 years ago #
acemotel
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OMG McCain actually cited Palin\'s PTA experience as evidence of her VP readiness. If the position weren\'t so deadly critical, the statement would be funny. Someone has to shore up McCain\'s foreign policy ignorance, FGS the man thinks Putin is the president of Germany. And Palin is not the one to do it. It\'s unbelievable what\'s happening in this country. When it seemed NOTHING could be more damaging than Bush, here comes McCain with his memory lapses and hot temper, with his PTA president.

Posted 3 years ago #
MissK
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jenny that is a very republican, pro-life, christian run website so what would you expect them to say? If this story is true then the truth will come out. It always does.

Posted 3 years ago #
jennycollins
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well, Daily Kos is a very liberal website. so no matter how you spin it, both sides are going to defend their position.

i agree with you that the truth will come out either way. but i just don\'t agree with one sided arguments. i\'m not a fan of mccain/palin by any means, but it seemed like everyone was attacking palin and no one was willing to show the other side of the story.

there\'s my 2 cents. i\'m done.

Posted 3 years ago #
HunterG
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*edited for grammatical error*

We can put the rumor to rest when SOLID proof is given. I am looking for the date stamp on the picture I saw earlier that shows the daughter sporting a \"baby bump\" stating it is from 2006 and cannot find one.

How do we know this blogger at \"townhall\" has any more credibility than the next?

By the way, I think that you forgot to mention the fact that this blog site is obviously not a Obama supporter, (hmmmm...)which may give light as to their defense of Gov. Palin.

Posted 3 years ago #
acemotel
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And accept the fact that she WILL be president if McCain wins. It\'s not a question of IF but WHEN. There\'s a scary thought.

Posted 3 years ago #
CountingCoup
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Sorry, the main media can be controlled by Corporate money but the grass roots media and information cannot.

I\'m not saying grassroots are always correct, but generally where there is smoke, there is fire...

Lets see how this one plays out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Es5aIJl1g

Posted 3 years ago #
GenHillOne
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Wow, this is one way to debunk the rumor - Today show just announced (via Reuters) that Bristol has confirmed that she is CURRENTLY 5 months pregnant and planning to marry the father.

Posted 3 years ago #
Bonnie
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Yeah, just saw that on the news. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/gov-palin-says.html

Posted 3 years ago #
flipjack
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My god I can't believe they are now going to fake TWO pregnancies.
I can tell you her daughter is not pregnant, we always used birth control, I used condoms and she had an IUD AND was on the pill.
She broke up with me a month ago and I'm sure they have a surrogate mother by now that will deliver "her child".
This is just tooo much.

Posted 3 years ago #
RainyDay1235
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LOL. Well, Not sure about the first one, but the second pregnancy is definitely the daughter. Apparently McCain knew and didn't consider it an issue.

Gotta say, not sure how the "Soccer Moms of America" are expected to relate to this high-powered political NRA member whose husband takes care of the children, who has a son going off to Iraq but hasn't "really followed the war", who opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest, who had yet another child at 44 (or helped cover up her daughter's child - whatever), and is now leaving that newborn to run for VP. Of course if she were a man most of these would not be a non-issue. But assumig she'll relate to the Women of America? ..I don't see it.

Posted 3 years ago #
RainyDay1235
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...and must add this:

>>In a 2006 Eagle Forum questionnaire, Palin indicated that she supported funding abstinence-until-marriage education programs instead of teaching sex-education programs. "Explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," Palin wrote in the conservative group’s questionnaire.

Posted 3 years ago #
HunterG
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LOL, flipjack!

I guess this is one way to take steam away from the rumor.

Posted 3 years ago #
flipjack
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Well, all I can say for Palin is that at least she seems to have an active sex life which is more than it ever seemed for the petrified sexuality of Hillary Clinton.
The other thing is I was doing JESST fine ignoring politics and this stoopid presidential popularity contest until this twittery twit Palin got into the mess. I need to go back into my cave now. And I do mean twittery twit.

Posted 3 years ago #
Danno
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I see absolutely no West Seattle angle to this thread. I cannot believe this blog/forum is sinking to the depths of the Kos kid nutters. I mean, really, Kos is not just "very liberal," my opinion is that it is a cesspool of hate. Those moonbat nutters posting on here, I wll not name names, you know who you are, need to broaden your sources of information, or remain irrelevant to intelligent discussion.

I am finished posting here, as have others since it is impossible to have fair and intelligent discussions. I thought the left was the tolerant side (sarcasm/).

Posted 3 years ago #
HunterG
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Moonbat nutters, lol. I've never heard that one before.

Posted 3 years ago #
Cait
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Well it won't seem West Seattle oriented until she's president and effecting the whole country, including us. Can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen, I say. It's too bad because it's nice to have differing views on here but if it's just going to be us "moonbats", so be it.

I fully encourage and respect arguments from others especially when discussing something as heated as politics, otherwise I wouldn't be here. And if you can't handle it, think about just why it gets you mad and not curious or challenged positively. Be open minded, please.

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