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More idiots moving into W.S. soon.

Started 1 year ago by livingunderthatbridge
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livingunderthatbridge
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What an atrocity that new condo complex up from the Y is. What a joke W.S. is becoming. But hey, if you like living in,around,and on top of each other with no privacy, then density is for you. Your health will decline quicker in W.S. now than living in a big rural area with fresh air to breathe.

Posted 1 year ago #
westseattledood
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Livingunder -

When was West Seattle ever a big rural area? Just how long ago are you referring to? Just curious.

And as for the development in the Triangle causing bad air? I definitely am not getting your point, but wouldn't be the first time a point of view is lost on me. It would seem to me that those folks who are attracted to such living are probably not big on cars and perhaps might be making the air quality better, not worse. But, again. Could be wrong. Just an opinion.

Posted 1 year ago #
luckymom30
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Any building develpment is good for our poor economy, I am gld to see more cranes in the air since my husband is in contruction.

Posted 1 year ago #
WSB
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FWIW it's not a condo building. Nothing that's being built now is condos (maybe one here and there elsewhere in the city, but not here). Hell, very little's being built, period (we talk to people all the time who say commercial financing remains almost impossible to get - this project was one of the very few financed in the past year or so for miles around).

Link will be apartments:
http://www.linkapts.com

Built and managed by the same people behind Mural (WSB sponsor) in The Junction, the one across from Jefferson Square.

Also, just so everyone is clear on the city's policy (and it's important to let your reps know if you think it's the wrong road) - "in-fill" like this, building inside city limits, theoretically will mean less paving-over of the rural areas that's left. Although you won't see much of it till financing frees up. Even for smaller developments - when we covered the demolition on Alki of the old Pegasus Pizza building earlier this week, the owner told us that he was building a 1-story commercial building on the site because he couldn't get financing for the originally proposed multi-story with residential over commercial.

Posted 1 year ago #
angelescrest
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It's so hard to believe that they could not get the financing for the multiuse/multilevel at the old Pegasus site. It seems like the living spaces would have been so desirable--waterfront, basically.

Posted 1 year ago #
BigRed
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Not to totally derail, but what does FWIW mean?

Posted 1 year ago #
jissy
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BigRed: "For what it's worth" (I think)

Posted 1 year ago #
Carson
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For What Its Worth..

Posted 1 year ago #
dawsonct
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There are nearly 7 BILLION humans on Earth; There isn't enough space for us all to live in a single family home surrounded by a buffer zone.
Sprawl is unhealthy to our planet. We better take care of this one while we still can.

Posted 1 year ago #
anonyme
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dawsonct hit the nail on the head, but perhaps not in the way intended. Sprawl is definitely a problem, but the real elephant in the room is overpopulation: local, regional, global. Humans are breeding their way into extinction.

Posted 1 year ago #
Sue
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angelescrest, I work with banking attorneys, and a lot of what got the smaller banks in trouble was commercial loans. Requirements have gotten a lot restrictive, and they're requiring a lot more of a downpayment than they used to, to minimize risk. I've seen a lot of commercial loans lately where they want 50% down, where you used to be able to buy stuff for little or nothing down. I don't know the situation over on Alki, but would not be surprised if it's a similar situation - just that there were terms that were too difficult to satisfy.

Posted 1 year ago #
DP
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Rising density seems to be an unfortunate fact of life. From my perspective, it's a mixed bag. Parts of Delridge are getting better as the new multi-family units go up. However, in my area (the 8000 block), things are getting worse.

When developers tear down tarpaper shacks and put up tastefully done built-to-last lowrises with little gardens in front, I'm ok with that. But when they plow under stands of trees and throw up rows of butt-ugly "snout houses" that go right to the street, I'm sorry, but that's just uglification.

(Are you reading this, City Planning Department?)

And all over the city, it's getting crowded.

Remember when you could go to a Seattle Center event and not come back with bruises from all the elbowing?

Remember when cruising Alki wasn't downright claustrophic?

Well, folks . . . that's density for you. And it's going to get worse; much worse. Is that what we have to put up with just to keep our economy going? Then maybe there's something wrong with the way our economy is set up.

For the meantime, I suppose we've got to find space for anybody who wants to live here—as long as they can find work. At the same time, though, we should be thinking about the future and encouraging people to have fewer children, because population growth and associated resource consumption at the current rates are just not sustainable.

We also need to take a hard look at immigration and ask ourselves how it's affecting our quality of life.

Guess I'm with anonyme on this one. I know that people don't want to talk about population, but we're gonna have to deal with it eventually anyway, right? —So why not deal with it now, while we still have a few options?

Or . . . we could just let Nature take care of it.

(Not a good choice, IMO.)

—D.P.

Posted 1 year ago #
johnnyblegs
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livingunderthatbridge....Let's take your RANT, because it is, one point at a time.
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1) What an atrocity that new condo complex up from the Y is. - I've been watching the progress of this build from my kitchen window ever since that crane went up. It was a lot bigger than I expected. It may be an eye sore NOW but when it's completed I'm sure it will look aesthetically pleasing to the average eye.
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2) What a joke W.S. is becoming. - I'm not sure what you mean. Joke as in encouraging people to move here and spend money in our WS economy? Building a building that will bring new retail businesses to the area? Seems like a win all around. But maybe you are referring to your "point" of...
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3) But hey, if you like living in,around,and on top of each other with no privacy, then density is for you. Your health yadda yadda yadda - You should have thought of this before you moved over here. Maybe instead consider the Skagit Valley or east of the mountains where there's a lot more space for your elbows. This is the CITY. People are everywhere. I LOVE this new building and what it will bring West Seattle. Have you even checked out the Link website http://linkapts.com ? How cool is a roof top p-patch? What about being a hub of bus transit information?
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Why do you assume "idiots" are moving here? While you see "More idiots moving to W.S. soon" I see more people seeing how great this side of town is that they'll move here and bring their pocket book with them. That in turn means good things to all the residents that live here already.

Posted 1 year ago #
Julie
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I move we take a break from the epithet, "idiot".

Posted 1 year ago #
DP
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Seconded.

Posted 1 year ago #
Carson
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Sometimes, as in the case of the OP, Idiot seems to fit perfectly, I would hate to lose the use of such an appropriate adjective!

Posted 1 year ago #
angelescrest
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Thanks, Sue. People of al means need to live somewhere, and what could be on an upper level seems like wasted space. And, the original space had an upper level of some sort as well.

Posted 1 year ago #
JanS
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the OP said "more idiots"...so...does that mean that the people (that would be US) who already live here are...idiots? The OP lives here, according to the OP's post, so...does than then infer that the OP is also an idiot?

I've been here for over 35 years...and I don't think I'm an idiot...now my feelings are hurt !

Posted 1 year ago #
JoB
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carson..

sometimes you tickle me... :)

Posted 1 year ago #
Smitty
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Dawson,

I believe that you could (technically) fit all 7 billion into an area the size of Texas and each person on earth would have a 1/4 acre to themselves.

I think the over-population thing is kind of a myth.

(not that I would WANT everyone to only have 1/4 acre, but it's not THAT bad).

Posted 1 year ago #
JoB
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smitty...

i don't think they would move to texas.

Posted 1 year ago #
Smitty
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Hey now!

I think Texas gets a bad rap - and is an "easy target" for liberals. Ever been to Texas? The Austin-San Antonio corridor is beautiful (no, you can't carve it out like Berlin) and the Gulf coast has some incredible beaches. Dallas is even pretty nice, albeit hot! Great Universities (UT, Baylor, etc.) and from what I understand a great public school system.

Now, Houston - you can have - and "West Texas" does look a lot like 2/3 of our state(!), but come on - just because they are conservative and the home of GWB is no reason to make them out to be the new Alabama!

edit: I've actually been to AL too and the people were awesome. Of course, I was there for a college football game and didn't get to see the "real" Alabama..........

Posted 1 year ago #
JoB
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smitty..

that was the real alabama:)

and i like texas too...
well.. parts of it anyway:)

i even found something to love about Houston once.

Posted 1 year ago #
dawsonct
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The best parts of Tx are the empty parts.

And I had a chorizo con huevos with fresh, handmade tortillas at a little diner in Lajitas that still haunts my memories.

Posted 1 year ago #
JoB
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dawsonct...

the food along the border in that part of texas is exceptional.. even at the resort :)

Posted 1 year ago #
Libertybell
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I am glad that it is Harbor Properties that is building LINKS. During construction of MURAL and since, they have been great neighbors and have been amazing supporters of the WS community.
If we have to have apartments, be glad that they are being built by people who believe in supporting their community - most large corporate property owners don't!!!

Posted 1 year ago #
JoB
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I'm glad they are being built in the junction areas so that i can still afford to rent a home with plenty of elbow room in the less desirable areas east of 35th :)

Posted 1 year ago #