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Looking for Skyelar Hailey

Started 3 years ago by Irukandji
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Irukandji
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See avatar from back when he was an actual student before dropping out at 10th grade (so I've heard).

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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10th grade, huh...he actually made it that far...

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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I guess since turning 18 he didn't need to waste his time on two more years to graduate. He's learned all he needs to know :).

Anyway, if your see the guy in the above photo, call 911 and give his location, state that you understand there is a warrant out for his arrest.

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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http://twitpic.com/3s8ak

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=28559317

Posted 3 years ago #
changingtimes
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i must say although ment to be funny i believe the comment "10th grade, huh...he actually made it that far..." seems like a direct ignorant and racist remark to someone just skimming the article...

Posted 3 years ago #
cruiser
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changingtimes,

Only one who mentioned race here is you.

Posted 3 years ago #
rockergirl
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What is the warrant for? Just wondering if he is armed and dangerous...........

Posted 3 years ago #
rykrite
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When I look at that photo I see a tragedy. He's beautiful, and something has gone very wrong for him. He's 18 years old, he's got a long list of offenses going back to when he was 12 and just a child - I have to believe that he wasn't taught right from wrong, and though he's accountable for that outcome I pity him for not having the support he obviously needed.
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I am one of those in the neighborhood with the chopper last night, and I want to see justice... but I find this situation terribly tragic.

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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changing times...you are open to interpret things any way you want. That's the problem with the written word on forums like this. There is always a misinterpretation.

This is an 18 yo hoodlum who decided that he didn't need an education. He's fast becoming a serial criminal,and is a menace in our community, to put it mildly. For the record, I could care less if he was purple with green stripes. He is who he is, and needs to get more than a slap on the wrist when Friday's sentencing rolls around. He needs to be off the streets.

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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Indeed, and he's done nothing to help himself. One warrant is for violation of a domestic violence restraining order. There may be others, but so far that's the only one I've found in available court information.

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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rykrite....I, too, have wondered where he lays his head at night. He's 18, but has been in trouble for years. Does he live with parents? With friends? On the street? In his car? Obviously this is an imperfect world, and not all moms and dads are good parents...I wonder what his story is.

Posted 3 years ago #
rykrite
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Thanks, JanS, for backing me up a little.
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What he has done/doing is wrong, no doubt about it.
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But I still think that there is room for compassion.

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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From what I know he is not living at home with family. He is living off of a girlfriend and anywhere she moves to seems to experience an uptick in burglaries and car prowls.
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He was given so many chances in his six years in the loving juvenile justice system and now will receive all benefits due him in the adult correctional system. Sadly, what he's learned from his own action is just to do more of the same.

Posted 3 years ago #
changingtimes
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as someone of color i was just asking people to think twice before posting ignorant comments...just look at the difference of the postings on skyelar opposed to the posting on the caucasion robbery of the senior center...im not trying to argue just expressing my point of view..sorry to have offended anyone..

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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On my own behalf, I've had dealings with Skyelar over a number of months and have been able to follow what's going on through court documents. Perhaps commenting here is more intense because of his ongoing and recognizable presence in our community. And the fact that the police continue actively looking for him. Hopefully, comments related to his criminal activity will continue to focus on the matter at hand: ongoing cretinous behavior and criminal acts in our community. And his apprehension on warrant(s).

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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rykrite, I undersand where you're coming from...but...and it's a big but...do you think he's gonna have compassion for any of his victims? Oh, they had a hard life, I won't take this or that, oh, they got an education, so I'll give them a break. Oh, I shouldn't hit that person, or sell that person drugs, or whatever, because he has compassion? Yes, we should understand his upbringing, but it doesn't excuse his behavior, and he's certainly not gonna care about me when he's hauling my stereo,TV, computer, and jewelry away. Just a thought.

Posted 3 years ago #
rykrite
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JanS, my compassion for him does not rely on his compassion for me or others.
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I am not offering him excuses, I am offering him compassion. I do not suggest that he should walk scott-free, I am suggesting that as a human being he was once filled with possibility and I suspect that the world did not show him how to utilize his possibility.
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lrukandji, "Loving juvenille system" - huh, that's not how I think of it. I think of it as having overloaded case workers and not enough resources to help kids to change. It may be well intentioned, but I sincerely doubt that anyone who spends time there finds it "loving."
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I feel great compassion for everyone hurt by this individual's actions - including me, because I lost a lot of sleep last night over this and I feel less safe in my home as a result. :-(

Posted 3 years ago #
j
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Unfortunately, as a teacher in a tough middle school, I see many of my students who are heading down the same path (crime and gangs). No matter how much support and love from teachers and/or parents, these students are already too far down the wrong path. As I see it, the only way to save them is to put them in a place where they can't harm themselves or others (a.k.a. jail).

As a victim of burglary by two teens, I have had the pleasure of spending too much time down at juvenille hall. After talking to the police officers (a ten of them) who came to our house during the burglary, they are often frustrated by the way the juvenilles are treated and released. I was told that the first question the teens are asked when they are transferred to juvy is were they harmed in anyway. I couldn't believe it. My take on it is you did what you did, now it's time to pay the consequences, not coddle criminals.

I hope for the sake of our community he is caught soon.

Posted 3 years ago #
rykrite
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J, I get your point. I really do.

But if we give up on these children, what are we to do? Lock them up....forever? That does seem to be the American way, and the number of our citizens behind bars is appalling compared to other industrialized countries.

Yes, we can lock everyone up. But it doesn't solve the problem. The problem will be solved when communities work together in the "it takes a village" kind of way, and resources are given to struggling children to get them on the right track. Of course, that is a lot harder than jailing them.

And even though I'm a PollyAnna, I don't see the system changing any time soon. :-(

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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maybe we don't give up on them...but, at some point responsibility has to be on their shoulders a bit. He's 18, considered an adult - we all know better. But...he has given up on himself it looks like. We can't force them to be who we want them to be if they don't want to go there. Gangs, streets, crimes, seems oh, so much more exciting than the straight and narrow, 9 to 5 kinda life. You could look at some of these kids and ask them "What are you thinking? Did you think you could get away with this?" and they in turn would tell you to STFU...it's sad..

Posted 3 years ago #
rykrite
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I know. Maybe the window of time when his life could turn around has passed.
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And that brings me to my original thoughts: I feel compassionately toward him, too. His life isn't looking too rosy to me.

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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not looking anymore..front page says he's been arrested...

Posted 3 years ago #
niki_e
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The bleeding hearts are mistaken in this case. I'm sure he's had a hard life, but so have a lot of us.

I went to high school with this kid, and he really is not a good kid who's misled and upset. He's slimy. He knows what he's doing and he never apologized for anything.

Posted 3 years ago #
Dunno
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Niki,

You're right. He's been given a million chances.
I do know he spent years with his gandmother living near the WS Junction. He was very tough on her as she tried and tried to keep him in school and life. She deserves a medal for all she went through, a very nice lady. His parents are who knows where? I think his mom is or was in Portland. As for Skylar he knows what he's doing. He can be very engaging
and pleasant, then turn around and put a knife in your back. I've spent a number of hours trying to engage him as many others in this community have. He is ADHD and ther's most likely more, and
doesn't take meds that could help him. Too bad,
because, when you sit down one to one with him there really is a human being in there, unfortunatly for many of us that have been his victims(myself included), the other personality dominates.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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It's too easy to focus on the kid in front of us who has become a problem and not on the root causes of the problem.

ADHD.. autism... the number of conditions that render our children incapable of treating others as anything other than objects is rising rapidly...

we need to get serious about learning how to prevent these conditions and helping those children who are already impacted.

We need to fund our juvenile justice system and put more children in group homes where they get both treatment and a structured environment.

We need to be serious about nutrition programs and medical care and the availability of structured safe environments for pregnant women.

We need to get serious about supporting at risk children and their families...

instead we got serious about locking them up.. a solution that is less effective and more expensive but relieves us of any social responsibility.

It's probably far too late for this kid but it's not too late for others.

Posted 3 years ago #
Lucile 2
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JoB-

ADHD and autism are not the same thing. This kid may have mental issues going on, but let's not blanket it under the autism and ADHD umbrella (not saying it is not possible, but I don't buy it). Are you talking about group homes for those with autism, or just for juvenille offenders? Group homes for those with neurological disorders rarely provide treatment or structured environments, it is a poorly managed daycare.
This child seems to be aware of his crimes and his behavior, let's not diagnose him with ADHD or autism, we don't even know him.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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Lucile 2..

i am talking about group homes for juvenile offenders as a part of their rehabilitation process..

i believe the higher incidence of disorders like ADHD and autism.. both of which can cause children to treat treat other humans as objects.. although for very different reasons.. contributes both to the higher incidence of juvenile crime and to the lack of success of our current juvenile system in dealing with repeat offenders.

mostly, i believe in spending our money on prevention first... it's cheaper.. it's more effective.. and it's more satisfying.

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Lucile 2
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okay, I don't know about group home for juvenile offenders, so that claifies it for me :) The brave people who take on that job--wow!

I also believe in the higher incidences of autism, partly due to better diagnosis techniques, perhaps due to typos in the DSM-IV, perhaps due to genetics and environmental factors, but I have to laugh when people assume that bad behavior can be explained with autism (or ADHD). That is why I we shouldn't feel sorry for Skyelar until he evaluated by a neurologist and is diagnosed. In all the encounters with him, has anyone mentioned that he has autism and isn't taking his Risperdal? I haven't heard that yet from reliable sources, so I don't buy the whole autism bit. And just for clarification for those reading, all individuals with autism do not treat humans as objects.
Autism takes many different shapes and forms, and empathy doesn't change behavior, autism or not.
We cannot focus on prevention first, we have to spread it across all fields. Prevention doesn't take care of the children and teens who are currently in our schools. We need to have a plan of how to deal with these children when they are adults, something the state doesn't even want to think about.

Posted 3 years ago #
Dunno
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Lucile,

I had regular contact with Skyelar and his grandmother who both told me about the ADHD.
As far as anthing else, I don't know, but the ADHD
is a fact. I wouldn't write speculation about this. He told me he took med for it.

Posted 3 years ago #
Irukandji
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Who needs prescription meds when you can be thizzin on ecstasy?

Posted 3 years ago #
Public Information 386-4636
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Dear Mr. ThaLamp and Friends,

Please note that all information shared about Mr. Hailey is available to the public and is in public records available online including but not limited to photos and court documents. Mr. Hailey is now an adult, and as such his records are open for review, and members of the community may read through them accordingly as it suits their interests.

Best regards,

Public Information

Posted 3 years ago #
Gina
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The QIC Information number from the Seattle Public Library?

Posted 3 years ago #
Public Information 386-4636
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Indeed! SPL QIC Info is always there to help.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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Lucile 2...

i believe that the kids in the system now are the product of over a decade of budget cuts to the programs that would help them... we are now learning to our dismay that a penny saved there is going to cost us a lot more than a pound soon.

Unfortunately, incarceration may be the only answer for many of them now..

I agree that autism and ADHD and their cousins are not an excuse for criminal behavior. Many kids with any and all of those disorders go on to become contributing self sustaining adults.. in fact, some of our more talented achievers come from this group.

but.. when you combine those disorders with a lack of programs teaching them how to be successful and a preference for drug therapy over behavior therapy and a disadvantaged home and too many incentives to commit crimes.. you get kids like this one.

It is a tragedy that kids smart enough to be successful criminals don't see a reason to make better use of their skills... for them and for us...

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