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1. Gdrgee52
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   Latisse is being offered for free by Allergan. We received 24 boxes of full sized Latisse (one 3.0mL bottle and applicators) which will last for one or two months (depending on applications). We have given several away to regular patients, but we have a couple left. All Allergan is asking in return is that you fill out a postcard. You will receive a coupon for a percentage off your next purchase of the product. Come into our office while supplies last! Skin Doc Shop, 4744 41st Avenue, Suite 104, West Seattle. 932-3884.

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2. MargL
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   It's an interesting concept for a medication - tho' the whole potential for changing your eye color as a side-effect kinda freaks me out.

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3. yeah-me
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   I have the longest eyelashes I could ever imagine. If you have blue eyes...go ahead and worry...but brown eyed gals! GO FOR IT! ( would myself but I already got a free one from another clinic)

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4. JoB
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   don't you need a prescription for latisse?
   and shouldn't that come from your doctor who is aware of your health status and all other medications you are taking?

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5. JanS
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   Jo, I think the OP is a dermatologist. Guess I'm assuming she'd ask those things before just handing this out to anyone...I also guess one should never assume anything, huh :->

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6. JoB
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   JanS

   i just think people need to be very careful when it comes to taking medications for cosmetic purposes...

   my niece took accutane
   it helped her acne but didn't really handle it
   now she is blessed with a lifetime of really bad IBS ... which turns out to be one of accutane's possible long term side effects

   she is lucky not to have developed chrons or inflammatory bowel disease.. although there is a lawsuit pending for those.

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7. JanS
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   accutane should never have been on the market. I had really thick eyelashes at one point in my life. Once they fell out during chemo 5 years ago, they have never been the same. Barely there. But I've heard things about Latisse...and I've heard that it only works as long as you keep using it.
   \Maybe Dr. Gee could allay the fears...

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8. Gdrgee52
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   Hi, fellow West Seattlites! Yes, we gave away all 24 boxes of Latisse. Of course the samples were only given to doctor's offices and as I'm the only health care professional in my office, each patient was given the Latisse along with a list of possible side effects of Latisse (both told to them and given in written form). Originally a glaucoma drop for the eyes, patients using it under an eye doctor's supervision noticed their eye lashes were growing and getting darker. Bingo, a new use was discovered. The possible side effects are irritated eyes, color change of the iris (blue or light green can turn to brown, but only while using it), darkening or redness of the eyelid and darkening of lashes. The color changes of the eye are primarily associated with using Lumigan (the glycoma medication) as an eye drop. It is certainly contraindicated in persons with hypersensitivity or allergies to bimatoprost (the active ingredient) or any other ingredient in this product. Lastly, all side effects that you may experience (irritation, color changes, eyelash darkening, etc) go away once you stop using it.
   You are wise to be cautious and at my office, we tend to give out products such as this to patients who have tried it before and know it doesn't cause any side effects to them.
   I promise you, I'm not standing on the corner at the junction with a raincoat and dark glasses, whispering "Free Latisse" to anyone passing by.
   I really do take people's health care seriously-- remember, we take an oath of "do no harm." I promise you, I do remember this, every day. Good health to you all.

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9. BigPhil
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   "now she is blessed with a lifetime of really bad IBS ... which turns out to be one of accutane's possible long term side effects"

   "she is lucky not to have developed chrons or inflammatory bowel disease.. although there is a lawsuit pending for those."

   Totally random, I know.. but this isn't actually true. No study has ever linked IBS or Chron's to Roaccutane. I know, because I just did the due diligence for it myself - it is not even a statistically significant amount - we'd expect MORE people with IBS/Chron's to overlap with people taking Accutane just based on population effected.

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10. BigPhil
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    somehow it double posted

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11. JoB
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    BigPhil

    the FDA has already acknowledged a clear connection between accutane and inflammatory bowel disease

    http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=Roaccutane+inflammatory+bowel+disease&x=17&y=13&client=FDAgov&lr=&proxystylesheet=FDAgov&output=xml_no_dtd&getfields=*&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&entqr=3&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ud=1&site=FDAgov&btnG=Search

    And Crohn's is an inflammatory bowel disease

    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/topics/IBD.asp

    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/crohns/

    the connection between accutane and irritable bowel syndrome is more problematic because that condition is still often perceived and treated as an emotional condition by family practice physicians and even when unresolved seldom leads to either reporting or a gastrointestinal referral.

    evidence based medicine has a long ways to go before it produces the kind of evidence that could show a legally defined connection between under-reported and under-diagnosed disorders like IBS and accutane.

    participating in an evidence based evaluation of pain medication for the State of Oregon taught me a great deal about the shortcomings of available studies

    due diligence is based on scientific studies which are seldom pursued without the stimulus of economic benefit... generally that of drug companies.. which in the best cases still produces biased evidence.

    Where there is no economic benefit.. evidence is likely to be lacking.

    Holland recently created a self reporting database for patients to report off label use of prescription medications that is creating a database previously unavailable to physicians...
    a database btw that would not be considered evidence in due diligence...

    It remains to be seen whether there is legal ambiguity pertaining to a connection between IBS, Crohn's, IBD and accutane... that question will entertain our courts for some time.

    And in the meantime they have discovered that a specific bacterial infection that can be treated with a new antibiotic may be responsible for the majority of irritable bowel syndrome diagnosis...
    just as a bacteria was found to be responsible for ulcers..
    another condition previously treated as an emotional disorder.

    due diligence depends on evidence which depends on research which is generally not funded until a drug company either discovers a new drug or an unintended connection between a medical disorder and an existing drug.

    There is no question that there is a wide gap between the "evidence doesn't yet support"
    and "that isn't true"...
    especially in a field like medicine...

    The sad thing is that most of the research is funded by the party with the most to gain financially by the failure to find a connection.

    It would be interesting to learn who you did this due diligence for ...
    what you find is often predetermined by what you are looking for...

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