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1. JoB
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   some of you may know that earlier this year Mitt Romney suggested to his supporters that they let their employees know how crucial the right vote in this presidential election was to jobs at their company.

   Several employers have actually followed through with this and sent letters to their employees that carefully skirt the letter of the law that was supposed to prevent employer coercion on election day ... to link jobs to a vote for Romney.

   Well, into my inbox this morning came a little jem from pointed postcards that puts a twist on the dear employee letters ...

   what might they say if there were no laws to circumvent>
   and ... they got sprinkled with a little truth serum?

   http://pointedpostcards.wordpress.com/2012/10/20/dear-employees-i-gladly-impart-my-wisdom-pay-attention/

   enjoy

   Posted 7 months ago #         

2. waynster
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   Its true Job have heard a lot about this have a cousin in Spokane that was told the same thing a vote for the president will cost you your job its sad the right has gotten dirty with ones job and lively hood.....sad thing is this is part of the blame they are using is healthcare....

   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/20/arthur-allen_n_1992370.html

   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/16/health-care-law-small-business_n_1916850.html?1350662267&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl10%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D222683

   Posted 7 months ago #         

3. kootchman
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   ha ha ha ha .. unions do it all the time.... how to vote pamphlets and heck, even direct campaign contributions. Freedom of speech... any employer has the right to communicate. Woof woof woof! If your employer thinks there is government legislation pending or in effect that adversely affects his company, your job... you might want to know. I would.

   Posted 7 months ago #         

4. waynster
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   kootch you have no clue about unions none never have and never will... unions indorse those who support labor and who create jobs and legislation in support of workers. Wether its non-union or union workers its all about worker rights. I have seen unions endorse both sides of the isles right and left and not once have they come out and said you will loose your job if you vote this for this president or that one... what they say is who will create more jobs and who will outsource more facts are facts its all in what the candidates say when asking for support of union members... they put out info for the members to make up their own minds unlike CEO's of company's who threaten your vote for your job Bull crap....or supreme court justices who open doors for the rich to buy elections

   Posted 7 months ago #         

5. JoB
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   tkooth

   the unions did it..

   yep.. those dirty unions made it possible for you to have the time off to transform an idea into the company you eventually built.

   without them, you would have been working a 60 hour week just to pay the rent and put food on the table.

   i know people who do now.

   your lack of gratitude is showing

   Posted 7 months ago #         

6. kootchman
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   First .. you trot that line out. Now, let me tell you how you got the 40 hour work week. The REAL story. Henry Ford did it. He did it 18 years before the appearance of the UAW... he did it because, there was a labor shortage... and he wanted to attract the best workers from over 120 car makers then in existence. Oh history.. labor shortages gave rise to health insurance... to attract in short supply labor... any commodity in demand that is short in supply will rise in prices. That includes labor. Thank Henry Ford for the 40 hour work week AND overtime. Unskilled, untrained workers are in oversupply... the opposite happens too. Low demand and surplus means... falling prices.

   Posted 6 months ago #         

7. TanDL
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   Nice try K and yes, Ford did apply the notion in 1914 but he did not create the 8 hour day. You leave out a whole bunch of history on the matter, which involves early labor movement. Here's a blurb from an international history of the 8 hour day and if you click the link and read the whole thing you'll be amazed at how early the movement started... as early as 1836 in the U.S. Earlier in other countries.

   "United States

   In the United States, Philadelphia carpenters went on strike in 1791 for the ten-hour day. By the 1830s, this had become a general demand. In 1835, workers in Philadelphia organized a general strike, led by Irish coal heavers. Their banners read, From 6 to 6, ten hours work and two hours for meals. Labor movement publications called for an eight-hour day as early as 1836. Boston ship carpenters, although not unionized, achieved an eight-hour day in 1842.

   In 1864, the eight-hour day quickly became a central demand of the Chicago labor movement. The Illinois legislature passed a law in early 1867 granting an eight-hour day but had so many loopholes that it was largely ineffective. A city-wide strike that began on May 1, 1867 shut down the city's economy for a week before collapsing. On June 25, 1868, Congress passed an eight-hour law for federal employees[5] which was also of limited effectiveness. (On May 19, 1869, Grant signed a National Eight Hour Law Proclamation.[6])"
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day

   Happy Thanksgiving

   Posted 6 months ago #         

8. JanS
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   TanDL, isn't it wonderful how some people shape history to try and make an argument? ;-)

   Posted 6 months ago #         

9. TanDL
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   :)

   Posted 6 months ago #         

10. miws
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    kootch,

    

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

    Mike

    Posted 6 months ago #         

11. HMC Rich
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    Well the town I was born in started the coffee break. And because of that, many union and non-union workers have stayed awake because of it.
    Stoughton, Wisconsin. Ballard residents would be proud and would fit right in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_culture
    Look under coffee break.

    phonetically STO tun (long O)
    locally STO en

    and if you go to Milwaukee and want to sound like a local, say Mwaukee. Home of Miller Beer and Golda Meir

    Posted 5 months ago #         

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