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October 18, 2008 at 3:32 am #588414
AnonymousInactiveFor the first time in it’s 161 year history, the Chicago Tribune endorses a democrat for president. Must read op-ed.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-chicago-tribune-endorsement,0,1371034.story?page=1
October 18, 2008 at 3:45 am #643866
acemotelParticipantWOW
October 18, 2008 at 5:34 am #643867
AdmiralJanewayParticipantAlthough not a break from tradition like the Trib, the Washington Post also endorsed Obama today.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/16/AR2008101603436.html?nav=hcmodule
October 18, 2008 at 8:04 am #643868
JanSParticipantThanks for the info, JT. I just read the endorsement, and then delved into the comments…wow, and we think we get heated here. It’s so hard to admit , I find, that there are such racist, bigoted, judgemental people out there just wandering around among us. Stoopid, too. ( a judgement on my part, granted). All because of politics…amazing…
I hear Colin Powell may endorse Obama on Meet the Press this Sunday…just a rumor…
October 18, 2008 at 8:48 am #643869
c@lbobMemberSo, just who is it that supports McCain/Palin and what the hell for? I understand about those who are racists, bigots, stupid (and greedy). Any other reason(s)?
Inquiring mind wants to know.
October 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm #643870
CountingCoupMemberProbably the 23% of people who still support Bush, and then you add most of the population of Wasilla AK and there you have it…
Kidding about Wasilla, I would be interested on how popular Palin is right now in AK? Sounds like her mentor Ted Stevens is going down…
October 18, 2008 at 9:21 pm #643871
AnonymousInactiveJust want to point out that just because someone is a McCain supporter, does not make that person a “racist, bigot, stupid or greedy”.
To suggest that is completely disrespectful and insulting.
The pilot I worked with for the past 3 days is a McCain supporter. He’s still in the military and has been to Iraq twice. He’s a huge Bush AND McCain supporter. He is none of the things above.
October 18, 2008 at 9:28 pm #643872
angelescrestParticipantI do not know the pilot. I do not know you. But I know full well that you quoted Ann Coulter in an earlier post, and that is very telling.
October 18, 2008 at 11:10 pm #643873
AnonymousInactiveAnd, angelescrest, since we are making assumptions about people we don’t know, then, I don’t know you, but you support Obama and that is very telling…..
October 18, 2008 at 11:27 pm #643874
TrickParticipantI have an employee who just got called back after being out of Iraq for at least the last year.
He’s not too thrilled, and is an Obama supporter throughout.
October 18, 2008 at 11:48 pm #643875
AnonymousInactive“Political correctness has taught people to lie to pollsters rather than be forced to explain why they’re not voting for the African-American.”
And I’ll do it again!!!! Hahahaha!!!!!
October 18, 2008 at 11:50 pm #643876
ZenguyParticipantAnd MAnn Coulter is a credible source???
October 18, 2008 at 11:57 pm #643877
angelescrestParticipantAnd, seriously, Trick and NR, I don’t know how they do it…back and forth to Iraq and Afghanistan, when one estimate (Steiglitz, an economist) said 50% are returning with some kind of disability, (disabilities the cost for which has yet to be fully estimated.)And that cost: to them personally, to their families, to the society at large. It is a nightmare, and they are–at least–deserving of the best care as quickly as possible at no cost. And, that is not what is happening, as I am sure we can all agree.
October 18, 2008 at 11:59 pm #643878
angelescrestParticipantBy quoting Ann Coulter repeatedly, you just sully any and everything you post here.
October 19, 2008 at 12:18 am #643879
TheHouseMemberIt is easier to answer question #5 by stating why I would not support Obama.
McCain/Palin weren’t my first, second or third choice for Prez/VP, but Obama is next to the bottom of the the list. Just in front of Michael Jackson.
October 19, 2008 at 12:24 am #643880
ZenguyParticipantIt is always easier to bash than support your ideas.
October 19, 2008 at 1:34 am #643881
JanSParticipantto the person in #15…that doesn’t explain why you won’t vote for Obama. It just says where he is on your list…not why…
October 19, 2008 at 1:54 am #643882
mellaw6565MemberCatlbob – I think you’re totally discounting and disrespecting the older generation who support McCain/Palin in large numbers. My parents are none of the ugly descriptions that you used (racist, greedy, etc…) but they are of the “greatest generation” and WWII so they believe in national defense and less government in their pocketbooks.
Please refrain from such stereotypes when describing political-minded opponents. It serves noone’s interest. (And I’m a fervent Obama supporter for the record).
October 19, 2008 at 3:42 am #643883
TheHouseMemberIn answer to post #17:
Reasons why Obama would be bad for the United States:
1) Obama believes in Socialism, both Domestically and Internationally. This is the single greatest reason why he should not be President.
2) Obama opposes guns to be used in self defense.
3) Obama opposed a ban on partial birth abortions (this is very different then simply using a morning after pill in my opinion….it is murder).
4) Obama has been connected to several individuals that have openly decried the United States of America including one that admitted to committing crimes against humanity. That alone does not make him guilty of anything, but that coupled with the fact that he chooses not to wear an American flag pin, he has selected to not place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, his wife has made off the cuff remarks regarding our country and he will not disclose hardly anything that he participated in, wrote about or individuals he associated with during college makes me dislike him.
5) Many of the promises that Obama has made regarding economic policy are impossible to achieve.
6) People in his own party (particularly Bill & Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden) repeatedly criticized Obama during the primaries, stating that he didn’t have enough experience.
7) Obama and Biden voted against making English the official language of the United States (many Democrats supported this one).
8) 228 of the 562 votes Obama has cast have been “present”. That is the same as saying “no opinion”.
9) Obama supports everything Nancy Pelosi votes on.
I hope that’s enough for you Obamabots to chew on.
October 19, 2008 at 4:00 am #643884
AnonymousInactiveIf someone bases their choice of president on whether or not they wear a pin, no amount of logic or discrediting the list above will make a difference. I’ve lost all respect.
BTW, during all 3 debates Obama wore a flag pin, McCain did not. Why do republicans hate America!
October 19, 2008 at 4:15 am #643885
TheHouseMemberTypically liberal response, JT. I list multiple significant reasons and you focus on the pin (which was one of a culmination of reasons I didn’t like him).
Keep wallowing in stupidity.
October 19, 2008 at 4:18 am #643886
c@lbobMemberIf you look a little closer, mellaw6565, you should note that I was referring to the report JanS made about commentary she read in the ChiTrib website about the Obama recommendation. I only said I understand the racists, bigots, dummies and greedy bastards that go for McCain, since the McCain campaign seems to know they are prime potential voters for them. Just look at the ads they put up.
Since I don’t imagine that the only reasons McCain’s supporter have are hatred of blacks and greed, I’m willing to accept that stupidity isn’t the only qualification for a McCain voter either. I just can’t think of any other qualifiers. I’m looking for some reason they have that is worthy of respect, when I hear of one, maybe they’ll get mine. It’s possible.
Less government in their pocketbooks, if that is really why the “greatest generation” will vote for McCain makes no sense. The Pentagon budget (on and off the books) is a big parasite on their pocketbooks. McCain likes to brag about the pork he wants to stop there, but its boondoggle weapons systems that need to be excised. Don’t look for Johnny boy to be doing that. If national defense and parsimony are what your parents are after, McCain ain’t their guy. He wants to put thousands more service personnel overseas indefinitely.
BTW, my older brother and surviving uncles and aunts are members of the WWII generation (born 1925-1929). They’re all supporting Obama.
Regarding the idea that Obama is just too “out there” to even consider, an unbalanced, angry, ne’er do well making an attempt to surpass they accomplisments of his Admiral grandfather who will say anything, and does, is someone to vote for? An admirer of secessionism for Alaska is mainstream? I don’t think so.
October 19, 2008 at 4:19 am #643887
AnonymousInactiveYes House, almost like *I could easily poke holes in many of your theories, but it’s not worth the time*. Back at ya.
October 19, 2008 at 4:24 am #643888
angelescrestParticipantmellaw, i get the stereotype thing but my parents are of that generation as well, and i hope that the wisdom of their experiences would cause them to make insightful decisions, not decisions based on what? 50-60 years ago. it would be insulting to older people to expect any less..separation of church and state, e.g.
my dad’s a lifelong republican, ducks unlimited, etc., and he is NOT voting for mccain.
October 19, 2008 at 4:41 am #643889
AnonymousInactive110th congress. McCain misses the most votes. 420 total or 64.1 percent. Obama misses 303 votes or 46.3 percent. Obama had an exceptionally long primary against Hillary. What’s McCain’s excuse?
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/
Illinois state senate, Obama votes present 129 times out of over 4000 votes cast. This represents just over 3 percent.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html
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