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Biden losses to idiot hillbilly

Started 3 years ago by LightsOut
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LightsOut
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For how stupid and idiotic Palin is, things did not look good for Biden Last night.

Hillary Clinton! The only candidate that actually tried to give the American people a healthcare plan.

Posted 3 years ago #
Trisket
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Biden took the high road.

Posted 3 years ago #
Zenguy
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Biden took the path he had to. Polls show he won by seventy percent or so.

Posted 3 years ago #
JenV
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they are fact-checking the debate on NPR right now, and it certainly sounds like all the major stupidity, as usual, came from the right. They have refuted nearly everything that came out of her mouth as completely untrue or an exaggeration.

Posted 3 years ago #
walfredo
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He lost? Like when she said she supported Dick Cheney's classification of the VP not being part of the executive branch without knowing what that meant, and Biden schooled her and linked them further to the current administration?

Or when she couldn't offer one example how there administration would differ from the current one- outside of McCain being a "maverick"?

Or when she had to explain early on that she wouldn't be answering the questions asked of her by the moderator or her opponent, but would instead read talking points off of a note card directly to the American people?

You might say she exceeded expectations because she didn't faint or curse... but seriously- she won the debate? Give me a break...

Posted 3 years ago #
TheHouse
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Idiot Hillbilly. Interesting. She's a hell of a lot more successful in every facet of her life that you are.

What have you done in your lifetime?

Posted 3 years ago #
RainyDay1235
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Well, the thread is called that. I don't think she's an idiot or a hillbilly. I think she's a right-wing redneck though.

Getting elected to public office (after an outrageously scnadalous predecessor mind you) and pumping out 5 kids does not equal success. It's what you DO with that status. That is where I find her lacking. Why take it so personal House?

Posted 3 years ago #
meg
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oops, didn't note the thread title when reading through the comments...

Posted 3 years ago #
wstee
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You say right-wing redneck like it’s a bad thing…

I was raised by right wing rednecks. I don’t really know a clear definition of redneck but I am pretty sure my parents qualify. We were taught to work hard. And to pray before meals and bedtime. And to not judge a book by its cover. And to save money and not spend what you don’t have. And to plan ahead. And realize you have to control what you can and let the rest go.

My redneck family believes that it is your right to chose what you do to your body. And to believe in whatever god, goddess, universal being, whatever-you-make-up-in-your-mind. And it is ok to not believe too. Because no one is making you. So they weren’t all conservative and churchy.

I am so grateful to live in a country where people can blog their negativity. I am grateful to live in a country where two people can get up on national television and debate about the economy, the war, and gay marriage. I am grateful that the Democratic ticket has a man of color running it. I am grateful because John McCain picked a woman to be his running mate. I am grateful.

I suppose if I were back in Montana with the right wing rednecks and the other idiot hillbillies, I would hear a lot of lame rhetoric about Barak Obama. I am sure I would hear negative talk about his experience, lack of experience, his desire to sing “Kumbaya” with our Nation’s enemies. I would probably respond with comments about McCain’s LAME healthcare plan and my concerns about deregulation.

I have been the consummate lurker here on WSB. I never really commented because I felt like I wouldn’t be respected. No longer will I lurk. I am with House. I will use the blog like I first did-to find out about restaurant openings and events in my community. This right wing redneck is out. She can’t hang with the ramblings of people who can’t come up with something nice to say.

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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wstee, from what I have read from you, it seems like you would always be respected, as you are respectful. Hope you change your mind.

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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From what I can gather, and what I have experienced on this forum, wstee is more concerned about her opinions not being respected as opposed to her, personally.

I have to agree. The conservative viewpoint is not respected on this forum. I have even been told that I should not live here because of my own conservative leanings. How's that for tolerant?

I have to agree with wstee. Most people here are not nice. Not respectful. Ever since McCain announced Palin as his running mate, it's been nothing but Palin bashing on here (with about 10 different threads started just for that purpose).

I have found that uninteresting to discuss with people and, therefore, have mostly not posted in those threads.

I figure it's just a way for the majority of liberals who post here to air their mean-spirited thoughts. I just try and stay out of the way.

Welcome, wstee. I, too, hope that you continue to participate (at least when something of interest or of use is being discussed).

Posted 3 years ago #
mellaw6565
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NR - not all of us on here have engaged in name-calling or candidate bashing and are willing to have discussions with both sides. But you do have to admit that Palin brings some of it on herself.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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wstee...

i too was raised by a right wing redneck. my brothers and their kids still are...

And i thank my mom every day for the values she instilled in us.. even if the politicians she supported didn't follow those values.

I think right wing red necks have been given a really raw deal by their party who grabs the rhetoric and doesn't deliver the goods.

I think it is a shame that when they got around to choosing a woman to represent them, they thought their best choice was to pander to the lowest common denominator in their party.

I can think of lots of republican politicians i still respect, but unfortunately those i can respect since the Nixon era can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

It's a shame really that really good caring people are being exploited by con men who say one thing and deliver another.

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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NR...I realize that you probably think that us people on here to the left of center are the devil, but I'd argue with you on that any day. The "liberal" people on here do NOT have a monopoly on meanness, condescenscion, insensitivity. To wit, your calling out Joe Biden last night when he choked up talking about his son who was killed in a car accident. Maybe you just didn't get what he was talking about...perhaps you should have been listening closer...but don't paint everyone who disagrees with you with the same brush and color. We are all different...and passionate about what we believe and don't believe. If it disagrees with your beliefs, so be it. You, and every conservative on here has the right to believe what you want...we may feel you're wrong, but...hey...it's just what we believe.

Mean-spirited? Name calling at it's best...see? no one is perfect...not even you ;-)

Posted 3 years ago #
villagegreen
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As I understand it, posts that cross the line by engaging in personal attacks get deleted. If you can't handle the challenging of your opinions or tell the difference between an attack on an 'idea' vs. an attack on you as a person then you're right, you probably shouldn't post here.

Discussing politics oftens gets heated quickly. That's just the way it is. There's nothing you can do to change that fact. That's why I choose not to discuss politics with certain members of my family - it just brings up too much anger and hostility. I'm frankly amazed that the threads on here don't get nastier than they do.

Posted 3 years ago #
RS
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I agree villagegreen. Politics can be contentious. And you can have contentious arguments and debates without attacking people personally.

I don't think I'm a mean-spirited liberal, but I do have a lot of anger about politics. Anger that our country has gone in the direction it has over the last 8 years, anger that certain politicians and their supporters display racism, sexism, heterosexism, and classism and then pander to the lowest common denominator with token choices and empty rhetoric, anger that our country is so divided and that there may be little we can do to bridge that divide...

I think a lot of "us liberals" feel similarly and that comes across in our posts. But I see that anger and frustration as coming from a place of deeply held beliefs and a passionate hope for change, not from a mean spirit. I'm sure we are all, liberals and conservatives, much more complex than that.

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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Once again, something I said gets twisted.

I said that the "majority" of liberals on this forum, not ALL liberals on this forum, need to vent their anger and do.

I honestly didn't know about Biden's son. So my question of him crying (which WAS posed as a question) was completely innocent. Once someone explained that Biden had lost a son, I no longer commented on that. However, some of you chose to label me as "insensitive" because I asked that question. I think, JanS, you have gone so far as to liken me to a "name caller" because I simply asked a question.

I agree that political threads get heated and I fully understand why. Everyone is passionate about our country in this day and age. I do not agree that the nastiness I have witnessed on this forum comes from a place of deeply held anger and frustration. It's simply nastiness. There are people who just cannot express themselves without being condescending to others.

I stand by my decision of not participating in the Palin bashing that occurs here on a daily basis because it is pointless, immature and down right mean. Those of you who feel that need to do it, carry on. But, like someone else said, it doesn't do a darn thing to support your candidate or make your own candidate look more attractive.

Posted 3 years ago #
CP
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"Idiot Hillbilly. Interesting. She's a hell of a lot more successful in every facet of her life that you are."

Consider yourself... REPORTED! :)
Does it take a lot of energy to be that mean?

Posted 3 years ago #
CP
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And NR - insensitive doesn't begin to cover it. Did you just not know what he was choked up about, or did you not care? That's what I'm not clear on. Either way I was deeply offended by your "question" as I'm sure many others would be.

I think that we are ALL not careful enough about the way we speak on here. If you felt something, be honest about it! But be prepared to change your viewpoint in light of new information instead of crabbing about being labeled. It happens when you go out on a limb and some people are rewarded for it and others are not. It's too bad that often republicans get the short end of the stick on this forum. It's the nature of the beast, unfortunately.

I come on here to share my opinions and air out my frustrations - I make no secret about that. That's pretty much the point of blogging aside from learning new information from others (which I have on here often and thank you all from both sides of the fence for keeping me informed!)

I understand getting a little inflammatory as the underdog in these forums, but I think we should all take a good look at what we say before we get mad about what people think about it.

End preaching. I'm going to force myself into the cold now :)

Posted 3 years ago #
Jiggers
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I love it.. You guys here love to just get at each other's throats...lol

Posted 3 years ago #
bunnypug
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To clarify Joe Biden lost both his wife and daughter in the car accident.

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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NR...and again you misunderstood what I said. If you had been listening to what Joe Biden had been talking about, you would have known about his daughter? (thanks, bunny).(he lost his first wife in that accident, too, and almost his second son - the one going to Iraq)

The name calling was you calling the more liberal people on here mean spirited, and I simply pointed out that the liberals don't have a monopoly on that.It had nothing to do with you asking a question.

Yes, everyone gets passionate about things, but I find nothing wrong with me pointing out something that I think is plainly and simply wrong. I am disagreeing with what you said, not slamming you personally.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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jiggers...

isn't there a mud wrestling championship somewhere that you can watch?

If there isn't a perpetual mudbath online perhaps that is a business opportunity just waiting to be exploited.

Posted 3 years ago #
JanS
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JoB ... >;-D

Posted 3 years ago #
charlabob
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Even Pat Buchanan had a hard time defending Palin's insensitivity when Biden choked up. He wound up saying she didn't want to embarrass him which, apparently, is why she ignored what he said and smirkingly went off to talk about herself.

Are there left-wing rednecks? I assume there could be -- for example -- Willie Nelson?

/s/
c - stll mean spirited and disrespectful after all these years -- but only when it's earned. :-)

Posted 3 years ago #
TheHouse
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CP, I have to admit I'm clueless about post #18. What point were you trying to convey?

Posted 3 years ago #
CP
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Oh just a little personal attack there gosh darn.

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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I'm really done with the whole Biden chocking up conversation. It's really pointless since I don't really care what anyone thinks of me - none of you know me personally.

But, I will leave you with this accurate quote:

"A central component of liberal hate speech is to make paranoid accusations based on their own neurotic impulses, such as calling Republicans angry, hate-filled and mean. With no sense of self-irony, the left spitefully stereotypes Republicans as - among other loathsome characteristics - spiteful stereotypers."- Ann Coulter

Posted 3 years ago #
JenV
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all words that describe mAnn Coulter: Hate filled, loathsome, spiteful, neurotic, angry, mean, paranoid, no sense of self irony, stereotypical Republican. I think that about covers it!

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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JenV - You couldn't have proven her more correct! Lol.

Posted 3 years ago #
JenV
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the woman is an abomination, and I wouldn't piss on her if she were on fire. If that proves her right, so be it- she is right in her weird little world. A world that has nothing whatsoever to do with the real world.

Posted 3 years ago #
flowerpetal
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A few other Ann Coulter quotes:

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." (he is the Oklahoma bomber)

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much." referring to 9/11 widows critical of Bush

"If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

Posted 3 years ago #
Wes
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bleh

Posted 3 years ago #
GenHillOne
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wstee - glad you jumped in. FWIW, I wouldn't define your family as redneck at all...especially given your second paragraph!

Posted 3 years ago #
villagegreen
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And some more:

"Bill Clinton 'was a very good rapist'."

"I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning."

"I'm getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, civilian casualties."

"Isn't it great to see Muslims celebrating something other than the slaughter of Americans?"

"I don't know if [Bill Clinton] he's gay. But [former Vice President] Al Gore -- total fag."

The woman is obviously completely mentally unstable and has long ago relieved herself of any credibility whatsoever. To quote her as your final say on a topic is pitiful.

Posted 3 years ago #
Anonymous
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Hey, she says some pretty alarming things, but she's also right-on about some things.

Quoting her is no different, imo, than someone else sharing a link to dailykos or huffingtonpost or motherjones to support an idea or opinion.

To question her mental stability is a little rash considering she graduated cum laude from Cornell.

Posted 3 years ago #
Franci
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I think its pretty well proven and documented that mental stability has absolutely nothing to do with the intelligence or level of education. Its an equal opportunity illness.

Posted 3 years ago #
flowerpetal
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I've never read at dailykos, huffingtonpost or mother jones any wish that a bomber would have bombed a conservative leaning journal; nor do I recall any of them wishing any presidential candidate murdered.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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garbage in.. garbage out..

an old programmer's truism..

but also true of the living computer we call the human brain.

Posted 3 years ago #
Dunno
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Looking over the political postings from a Independent point of view on this blog, I must say I've read far more name calling and nasty comments as well as what I would call teeth nashing from the Liberal point of view. I do enjoy reading both points of view when posted in a civil maner.

I must say, if Biden was running for president my mind would be made up as to who to vote for. Lets put it this way, I like Joe.

Palin did a good job holding her own in the debate
but lets face it, she was overwhelmed by a man with far more experience. The same lack of experience applies to Obama period.

Our state Gov race is a slam dunk. Christine has done a fine job in a rough economic enviroment.

Posted 3 years ago #
JoB
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i hope our state governor's race is a slam dunk.

i agree that she has done a fine job.

Posted 3 years ago #
missaudreyhorne
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Hey NR, if you don't like the way people treat others on here and the opinions, why don't you just go away?

Posted 3 years ago #
Cait
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"To question her mental stability is a little rash considering she graduated cum laude from Cornell."

I'll remind you that Hitler was a very well-accomplished man too, and we all know the end to that story. Yeah... I just compared her to Hitler. Prove me wrong that her ideals are any different in how she plans to deal with the Koreans.

Posted 3 years ago #
Annie
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Dunno, the way I look at it is to compare the two teams. I like Joe, too. Looking at Obama and Biden, I see Biden, who has lots of experience, as a back-up and partner to Obama. If something happens to Obama, Biden is as prepared as anyone to step in. And, according to one of his answers in the debate, Obama has said he'd use Biden as an advisor (not his exact term, but. . .). With the McCain Palin team, McCain has more experience and Palin can't adequately serve as an "advisor," so it's essentially a team of one in my view. If something happens to McCain, I don't see the inexperienced Palin able to step in.

Of course there's also the real question of the party and their performance. McCain/Palin has all the pros and cons of the current administration.

As an aside, today's paper said Palin learned of McCain pulling out of Michigan by reading it in the papers after the fact. What does that say about his leadership style and confidence in her as an advisor role? He also said this week that he's turned to her for advice "many times in the past," which strikes me as odd since he'd only met her once or twice when he picked her five weeks ago.

The paper also said that Palin was unhappy about the campaign leaving Michigan. But she offered that "she and Todd" could go to Michigan to smooth things over. Maybe Alaska's "first Dude" will become America's "third Dude" if they get in. He had his hand in Alaska's business in her governorship in Alaska so it's likely. Watch the Troopergate events if they are ever allowed to come out.

Hope I didn't get too far off topic.

Posted 3 years ago #
beachdrivegirl
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Personally I think "experience" is overrated. Look @ where we are now and we have got here by electing someone with "experience".

I think it comes down to, who has the ideas for the change that we want?

Who has the leadership to not only listen to others ideas but work well with those who have opinions that differ than there own?

Who has the ability to communicate with an open mind with leaders of other foreign countries? (both those that we are friendly with and those we are not.)

For me, this person is Obama.

Posted 3 years ago #
Dunno
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Annie,

I don't think Palin would be a Cheney, running the country from behind the curtain.

If McCain was a real Maverick, he would have talked Mrs Clinton into being his VP. I don't agree with him on many issues but admire his service to this country.

As far as telling people to go away from posting here if they don't like it, yeah, thats the kind of country I want. Just like the last 8 years.

Posted 3 years ago #
Bonnie
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Did you spell it right? Is it LOSSES or LOSES?

Posted 3 years ago #
beachdrivegirl
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???

Posted 3 years ago #
beachdrivegirl
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Never mind got it. :)

Posted 3 years ago #
missaudreyhorne
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Dunno...I didn't tell anyone to go away, it just seems that if someone is so put off by the way people treat them then they wouldn't want to stick around. I really just wanted it explained to me, I don't understand.

Posted 3 years ago #