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July 20, 2015 at 9:33 pm #817963
donna stewartMemberAVA (Alki Volleyball Association) takes over most of the sandy beach each wk-end. plus 4-5 parking spots on Alki AVE from FRIDAY THRU MONDAY noon. 4 days to “load and unload”… ????? No action see most of Fri. or Monday by AVA …
* 4 huge amplified speakers span the area of the 7-11 nets for players Sat./Sun. The “command tent” has an amplified PA system which FACES condos/apts.
I BELIEVE THIS BREAKS ALL THE posted RULES … ISN’T THIS A PUBLIC BEACH ? and is AVA a money-making venture using public land ?
July 21, 2015 at 12:17 am #826020
BonnieParticipantThis has been discussed before! https://westseattleblog.com/2013/06/from-the-wsb-forums-volleyball-overkill-parks-responds/ It was also discussed in the forums but I can’t find it.
editing to add I found it https://westseattleblog.com/forum/topic/beach-volleyball-is-taking-over-alki-beach
July 21, 2015 at 5:31 am #826021
donna stewartMemberBonnie: thank you for the add’l information … I did go into the previous discussions … read them … think I am right that last response to this blog from Parks was 1 YEAR AGO.. The “command tent” and PA system points DIRECTLY toward my apt. balcony .. I have left my own home more than once on the wk-end due to the noise level. Let me be clear … I think its fine to have some volleyball on Alki. But the AVA has broken or been allowed to ignore even POSTED rules for ‘NO APPLIFIED SOUND” … I will continue to pursue this chat w/ Parks, with the Alki Council, and here on the blog. If you can think or suggest
any add’l forums, I’m all ears !
July 21, 2015 at 6:02 pm #826022
clulessinwsParticipantJust wanted to send some encouragement. Keep on ’em Donna. This association shouldn’t be able to monopolize the courts or be above ordinances. It’s a public beach so anyone should be able to play volleyball. Everyone is subject to the same rules as far as noise and availability. The selfishness I have seen from the volleyballers is amazing but not surprising in this day and age. The parks dept needs to grow a pair and hold the assoc accountable.
July 21, 2015 at 7:58 pm #826023
StumbledoreMemberSelfishness is overshadowed by bikinis.
Perhaps mounting a audible counter-attack is in order. Presumably these are young people playing volleyball, and nothing irritates youngsters like blaring KIXI 880 AM at extreme volume. You might even call and request a marathon of Slim Whitman songs for maximum impact.
July 21, 2015 at 10:38 pm #826024
acemotelParticipantI am glad the young people are playing volleyball. Would we rather have a beach populated by young people doing nothing? Or young people looking for trouble? Or an empty beach? Of course they are playing on weekends! Most young people, thankfully, WORK. I don’t know anything about AVA, but as for all the people playing volleyball, I support them 100%. Stumbledore: he he he
July 22, 2015 at 2:42 am #826025
metrognomeParticipantI was going to follow-up on Stumbledore’s comment and suggest that you play bagpipe music, but that would probably bring the cops to *your* door.
I suggest you add Seattle City Councilmember Jean Godden, chair of the Parks, etc. Committee, to your contact list. Copy the mayor. Ditto the Board of Parks Commissioners. You might want to include the local police precinct as well as SPD has the authority to enforce the noise rules.
In my experience in working for the county, contacts with councilmembers get routed through the chain of command to the department director, which tends to get their attention. Be concise and matter of fact. Do your research and include language of Parks rules, esp. Seattle Municipal Code*, as footnotes where possible (a lot of elected officials don’t know chapter and verse of the codes.) Cite examples, take pictures, rent or buy a decibel meter and take readings. Be clear (and reasonable) about your expectations for a resolution. If Parks granted AVA a permit that included amplified sound, ask to see a copy (it should be a public record.) Encourage your neighbors to chime in.
Good luck.
http://www.seattle.gov/council/committees/parks/default.htm
http://www.seattle.gov/parks-and-recreation/about-us/board-of-park-commissioners
*Title 18 – Parks and Recreation
Chapter 18.12 – Parks Code
Subchapter V – Prohibited Acts
18.12.170 – Sound-amplifying devices.
Except as authorized by the Superintendent for specific events and times, or except as necessary for the preservation of public peace or safety, it is unlawful to use any public address system, loudspeaker or other sound-amplifying device in any park. It is unlawful to exceed noise levels prescribed by Section 25.08.520**. Any person convicted of violating this section shall be subject to punishment as provided in Section 25.08.800.
(Ord. 113436 § 9, 1987: Ord. 106615 § 10, 1977.)
** 25.08.520 C: The Administrator, the Director of Seattle Center, the Superintendent of Parks, the Director of Transportation, the Chief of Police, or an authorized representative of any of them may terminate a performance as a public nuisance after following the notice requirements of subsection B of this section if the decibel level exceeds one hundred five (105) dB(A) for a total of five (5) minutes in any thirty (30) minute period as measured fifty feet (50′) (approximately fifteen (15) meters) from the source or sources.
p.s. acemotel, I think you missed the point.
July 22, 2015 at 3:02 am #826026
metrognomeParticipantone other suggestion … I’m not familiar with the layout, but if they are using a single set of speakers to cover the entire volleyball area, you might suggest to Parks that they be required to ‘decentralize’ the speakers by using a smaller speaker at each net (or pair of nets, etc.) to disperse the sound. this way, they can still communicate with players and fans and still meet the dB requirements.
July 22, 2015 at 3:23 am #826027
clulessinwsParticipantGood points Ace, Stumble and Metro.
July 22, 2015 at 8:07 pm #826028
metrognomeParticipantJuly 22, 2015 at 11:50 pm #826029
StumbledoreMemberWould be so much easier (and entertaining) to forego the formality and hit ’em with some Whitman….
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