Bikefor1
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I'm expanding a comment I put in reaction to Skylark Cafe throwing an End-Of-Decade Party (SNORT) item on the home page.
How many people think that 2009 is the end of the 2000s?
A decade has 10 years! Dec 31, 2010 will be the end of the 2000s. I said the same thing 10 years ago when people celebrated the new millennium on 12/31/99. When will the insanity stop?
well, get out your fingers...From Jan 01, 2000 to Dec 31, 2009, is 10 years...a decade :)
Uhhh . . . forgive me if my math is wrong, but wouldn't year 2000 count as year 1 in a 10 year decade?
1 - 2000
2 - 2001
3 - 2002
4 - 2003
5 - 2004
6 - 2005
7 - 2006
8 - 2007
9 - 2008
10 - 2009
Even by your logic 2009 would complete a 10 year cycle. No?
JanS . . . you beat me to it! : )
...until you count back to the first decade of the common era, two millennia ago. There is no year "0", so was that a 9-year decade?
And another comment . . . I don't think anybody thinks 2009 is the last year in the 2000's. The last year in the 2000's would be 2999. And that would complete a millenium.
I have not heard anyone suggest 2009 was the end of the millenium.
flowerpetal
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Every dictionary I know refers to a decade as a ten year period. So New Years last year was the end of decade too; and the year before that; and...
When someone reaches their 20th, 30th or 40th birthday they can rightfully say they are two three or four decades old. Doesn't matter when they were born. Ten years is ten years.
flowerpetal
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I will if you like KBear. 2009 does mark the end of the millenium from 1009 to 2009. A millenium is only the span of a thousand years.
From the OP: "How many people think that 2009 is the end of the 2000s?"
KBear does this help:
1. jan 1 - dec 31 0000
2. jan 1 - dec 31 0001
3. jan 1 - dec 31 0002
4. jan 1 - dec 31 0003
5. jan 1 - dec 31 0004
6. jan 1 - dec 31 0005
7. jan 1 - dec 31 0006
8. jan 1 - dec 31 0007
9. jan 1 - dec 31 0008
10. jan 1 - dec 31 0009
It's still a decade at the end of 9
Flowerpetal, I almost said something like that, but I was afraid I'd be accused of being pedantic. Although technically, it would be from 1010 to 2009, wouldn't it?
Bluebird, I am not confused on this topic.
KBear, I don't think you're confused, just wrong.
Your first birthday is at the completion of a year. When someone or something turns ten, ten years have passed. Your trying to say it's not ten until the eleventh year begins.
flowerpetal
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I've been accused of that before; it doesn't bother me. I simply consider the source. I would never call you pedantic.
I think the decade starts with the year ending in 0 and ends with the year ending in 9, so 2009 would indeed be the end of the decade.
Think about it this way: if you were born in 1970 you would say you were born in the 70s, not the 60s.
Actually, KBear is right: "Unfortunately, since the scholars designing the new calendar didn't have the concept of zero, the new date system is calculated to start at year 1."
There is no year 0.
Bluebird, I am not the one who started this argument, and I agree with what you've said. So, if I'm wrong, and I agree with YOU, that must mean you're wrong, too!
I don't think it's an argument . . . just a slight misunderstanding from the OP.
what is so difficult about this?
when your child turns 10
they have lived 10 years
which is a decade..
personally i think the 60's started in the late 50s... but technically speaking it was jan 1, 1960 through midnight Dec 31, 1969..
that was some new year's eve;-)
exhausted from a new baby & philandering husband and still full of promise...
i am glad to see this decade end.. it has been a rough one for me..
but 40 years later i still see the next year and the next decade as full of promise. if my journey so far is any indication.. 70 is really going to be something :)
I'm with you, B41, but I just don't fight it anymore, I just smile.
I suppose arguments could be made about all facets of the meaning of flipping from 'x9 to 'x0 on the widely accepted Julian calender of the dominant Western culture on our planet, but from an absolutely mathematical standpoint, I feel the capital "D" Decade of Western culture ends at the arbitrary and artificial "time" of 2400 hrs., 12/31/x0.
I also recognize that those who hold a similar position are in the minority.
I just celebrate twice.
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Discussions on the measurement of time are amusingly puzzling.
It's really not that complicated. If you choose to use the start of Julian Calendar to calculate all of your decades - then each 10 years after year 1 would follow as such: 01, 11, 21, 31 . . . 2001, 2011, etc.
However, most of us define the current decade from the start of xx00 through the end of xx09. Hence we are in the current decade of 2000 - 2009 - a count of 10 years.
dawsonct..
LOL.. i think we are splitting hairs...
does midnight belong to 2009 or to 2010? 112:0000001 is definately 2010.. but midnight?
it's the mystery of New Year's Eve for me... scientifically the moment the clock strikes can't belong to both decades... but symbolically... it's a tough call.
By the time you realize the decade has ended, it is already the start of the next ;->
don't you just love that... we always have one foot in the past and the other in the future.
To borrow a quote from a much loved X-Files episode "Nobody likes a math geek, Scully" ;)
velo_nut
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how many people who replied to this thread got their a$$ kicked in high school?
WOW.
velo_nut
not all geeks got their a$$ kicked in high school...
at least.. not in my high shcool.. in the dark dark ages of our nation.. before MTV
Agent Scully can correct my math any day, although it takes a special kind of geek to quote X-Files.
wilson
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sooooo, I was born in 1960
it is now 2009
Are you born ONE year Old??? I don't remember it, though I know I was there.....in 1961....it was my first birthday...my first year on earth...the best YEAR (not years) of my parents' life -not true, just threw that in,,he,he, he....i don't want to be a smarty pants,
...but I am.
KBear,
Ha, and what makes me even geekier is the amount of glee that bubbled up when I realized two of my favorite characters on tv had had this same discussion 10 years ago, and I had the perfect opportunity to bust out a quotation. ;) Happy New Year!
velo_nut
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JoB... there is a difference between geek and nerd.
Nerds got their butts handed to them daily.
Geeks would have already got this answer correct and let everyone else copy their homework.
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