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1. Irukandji
   Member

   

   City/County truck came up through a residential street placing NO PARKING signs dated for tomorrow beginning at 07:00.
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   Is there any code that says some amount of notice is to be given to a neighborhood before signs are placed?
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   What about the neighbors who are gone until Wednesday, still legally within the 72-hour limit for an unmoved vehicle?

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

2. lowmanbeach
   aka TR, WSB editor/co-publisher

   

   Call the SDOT hotline and ask them - 684-ROAD. They should also be able to tell you what they're for, if you don't know offhand.

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

3. KBear
   Member

   This page explains exactly the situation you described. Looks like the neighbors are out of luck!

   http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/parking/parking72hour.htm

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

4. Irukandji
   Member

   

   Thanks for the info! I will call since they didn't give even 24-hours notice.

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

5. GenHillOne
   Member

   If you haven't called yet, I wonder if it's some kind of repair/work that came up quickly (though I'll bet you're already planning to ask!). I'd be curious to know if that ever happens. It's the only good reason I can think of for the short notice. But alas, we know that there doesn't always have to be a good reason.

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

6. Irukandji
   Member

   

   Yeah. Four transfers, marginal English,and 30 minutes on the phone and SDOT doesn't know anything other than it may be some Pilchuck project. It appears that Parking Enforcement has not received a request which is required to make the signs enforceable. This does NOT mean, however, that the company can't have our cars towed.

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

7. CeeBee
   Member

   

   New SDOT rules that I ran into when hosting a community festival... prior to the closure, the permitee is supposed to go to a city website and verify they have posted the signs and print a sheet of paper with the permit/project info and tape it to the sign (not sure if one or all). This is what was on my permit paperwork
   "The no-parks must be in
   place a minimum of 24 hours in advance, and verified by the person or
   company setting out the barricades (the verification form can filled out online
   at http://web1.seattle.gov/sdot/nopark). The time and date that parking
   restrictions are in effect must be clearly written on the barricades. If vehicles
   are found inside the barricaded area, without a valid permit, call (206) 625-
   5011 for police to issue a citation. It is illegal to tow a vehicle from a public
   street unless a citation has been issued. The company will be held
   responsible if cars are towed illegally."

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

8. Irukandji
   Member

   

   Thank you for the additional info! I tried calling Pilchuck and ended up in a tape loop for an on-duty operator who is terminally unavailable. Wrote a note. We'll see if we get any response at all.

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

9. KBear
   Member

   I suspect many of the contractors that use these signs don't bother to get the required permits, probably because they want to put the signs up right away so they can start working. If the signs are placed illegally, I wonder how you go about getting them removed?

   Posted 2 weeks ago #         

10. Irukandji
    Member

    

    I received a reply from Pilchuck apologizing for the inconvenience, it's a short job, they didn't file for permit, yada, yada, yada, and they won't tow cars since they didn't bother with compliance.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #         

11. kennem
    Member

    

    Someone filed a complaint yesterday (Mon.) with the Street Use division of the City's Dept. Of Transportation (SDOT). The manager of the Street Use / Utilities section immediately faxed a copy of the complaint to Pilchuck along with a pointed reminder that 24-hour notice is required. Hopefully, what with Irukandji's and others' complaints directly to Pilchuck, and a little hot breath down the neck from SDOT, Pilchuck will think better next time.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #         

12. Irukandji
    Member

    

    They've been weird in our area before. This is the first time they've blatantly been so obnoxious on our own street. The workers here today were very thoughtful, so much different that yesterday's crew and their blowing off of codes and decency (some of which I have become VERY familiar with).
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    Thanks all for your advice, links and support. Good communication all around.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #         

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