DEVELOPMENT: ‘All West Seattle’ team working on possible new 7-story building for heart of The Junction

(King County Assessor’s Office photos)

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

While there’s been plenty of development in The Junction in the past few years, nothing new has been proposed for California Avenue SW since the construction of the mixed-use buildings now known as Junction 47 (California/Alaska) and 4730 California.

But now, for the first time in almost six years, a major new proposal has emerged for the heart of The Junction.

City files show a new early-stage proposal for 4747 California SW, described as a “7-story mixed-use building.” While the address is for the Bikram Yoga building, the preliminary site plan shows the project would also include the land currently holding the Sleepers in Seattle building to its north (4741 California SW).

That building is co-owned by Husky Deli proprietor Jack Miller, with whom we talked this afternoon about the plan. He stresses that it is early-stage indeed – no specifics on how many apartments or parking spaces (but he says there WILL be parking). Miller also emphasized to WSB that it’s an all-local team; the development firm listed in city files, HB Management – also on record as owner of the yoga building – was founded by one of his neighbors, Ed Hewson, a friend since childhood.

Miller says, “We’re hoping to make something really nice.” He says redeveloping the furniture-store site, in particular, is unavoidable because the 79-year-old building is deteriorating, from the roof on down. He feels building in that spot also will be least disruptive to The Junction’s business mix – “We love The Junction.” A new building might even be a new home for his own business someday.

The four lots involved (this would NOT go all the way to Edmunds – the corner lot is under separate ownership) are all zoned for 85-foot development (and potentially higher if HALA upzoning goes through as proposed), so a 7-story building would not be maxing out the capacity. The preliminary site plan carries the name of the architecture firm Ankrom Moisan, which is Portland-based but has Seattle and San Francisco offices. As always with development proposals, we’ll continue to follow up on this one, which will require Design Review if it gets to that stage.

170 Replies to "DEVELOPMENT: 'All West Seattle' team working on possible new 7-story building for heart of The Junction"

  • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (4:43 pm)

    Why the stress on parking spaces? It is an urban center with rapid ride and multiple buses. The parking will just raise the rent of the commercial and apartments. Looks like we will excludes those without the need for a car on a future light rail line with frequent transit currently.

    • HM February 26, 2018 (5:08 pm)

      I wondered about the emphasis on parking myself.  And I don’t know if it was intentional, but the way the owner sounds to be stressing how the development team is local and there’s a need to redevelop anyway and so forth, it’s like they already feel like they need to be on the defensive about developing the property at all.  Development isn’t inherently bad.  It’s actually good for cities.  It’s how they become cities.  It’s how people get places to live and businesses have places to operate.  There’s a review process to work out ideas that are truly bad or truly detrimental to the area.

      It’s sad that a developer would feel like they need to come out of the gate defending themselves against groups that just hate everything developers do instead of celebrating the project.

      • WS Guy February 26, 2018 (7:22 pm)

        I’ll guess that it’s because parking is essential to businesses like his. They need to draw customers from all of West Seattle, not just from within walking distance to an apartment or bus stop.

        • John Frog February 26, 2018 (7:57 pm)

          Parking IS essential to my utilizing stores in the WS Junction. Living in Arbor Hts, any lack of parking will discourage my trying to  shop there.

          • ACG February 27, 2018 (2:01 pm)

            John, I completely agree with you. I’m hoping the parking will be available to Junction customers as well as residents. 

          • HelperMonkey February 27, 2018 (2:30 pm)

            John, I totally agree. I also live in AH, and I have taken most of my business to White Center, Burien and South Park as parking has been more and more scarce in the junction. (if transit were more available in AH this wouldn’t be an issue!) I miss some of the businesses, but not enough to deal with the headache. 

        • Ice February 27, 2018 (11:43 pm)

          As someone who lives about a mile from the junction and works on the junction, I am a supremely confused by comments like this. I have never had a hard time finding parking on the junction. Even on the most packed days, if you go two blocks off the junction, there is a ton of free parking. Sure, it might be hard to park on California, but there is a comical amount of free parking if you are willing to walk 0.2 of a mile. The parking garage in QFC is also never anywhere close to capacity.

      • Mark M February 28, 2018 (6:04 pm)

        No matter what you do or build there are haters everywhere… Some people seem to want it all to stay the same and not think about the population increase that is reality around here. Just thank goodness you don’t live in Ballard where the Apodments are rampant. I’m just glad we  live within Walking distance of the junction. My wife and I recently moved back to Admiral after a long dreary suburbian stint raising our daughter and found the Junction a vibrant hub of activity all positive in my book. We remember what the junction was like in the early 1990’s very depressing then. I’m glad to see it back and vibrant again. Haters and carbon shamers put a sock in it.

    • ETaylor February 26, 2018 (5:18 pm)

      “He stresses that it is early-stage indeed – no specifics on how many apartments or parking spaces (but he says there WILL be parking).”

    • Patrick H. February 27, 2018 (8:17 am)

      It’s the WSB slant.  New here too and I don’t understand the parking drama.  Parking is free and easy. If you want more, move to a suburb.

    • S February 28, 2018 (8:04 am)

      Bryce Yadon, I Googled your name and get that you live in Federal Way and are a lobbyist for Futurewise, and that you asked your Twitter followers to join in on this comment thread. But what’s your objective? If you are trying to lobby for your client, try doing it in a less obnoxious way…your comments only serve to polarize, and do not help convince others of your client’s viewpoint.

      • DH March 1, 2018 (4:19 pm)

        Nice detective work S!! 

    • Alkimama March 1, 2018 (5:43 pm)

      Are you for real? You picked the wrong neighborhood to haunt. My building charges extra if I want to utilize a parking space. But bike parking is included in my rent as well as the use of the gym. Of course, I don’t own a bike and the gym hours are not compatible with my working hours. But you brought up a good point. You shouldn’t have to pay increased rent when you don’t own a car and I shouldn’t have to pay increased rent for the bike parking and the gym since I don’t use either. And they should reduce my rent because my garbage isn’t nearly the size of my neighbor. And I don’t use as much water as my neighbor so I should get another rent reduction. Ummm, also I am on the first floor so I never use the elevator, should be another rent reduction. Hopefully, you see how ridiculous your post is. 

  • natinstl February 26, 2018 (4:57 pm)

    As long as people live in Seattle most are going to have cars. If you like to hike, camp, fish, etc… and generally enjoy Western Washington a bus isn’t  going to go all the places you want. 

    • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (8:39 pm)

      Yet here I am, I do all of those car free.  So surprise me how someone can’t enjoy the junction without parking…I’m guess walking 2-3 blocks seems out of the ordinary, but in the face of climate change parking is apparently required.

      • chemist February 26, 2018 (10:39 pm)

        I’ll trade in my car when West Seattle has light rail, ok?

      • Guy Olson February 27, 2018 (9:19 am)

        Nailed it! Well put!

      • RCS February 27, 2018 (1:33 pm)

        Well good for you Bryce. Way to make it about you. Here’s a cookie… for you.

        Do you have kids? West Seattle was/is very family oriented. Try commuting with two babies to the Junction via Seattle Metro for shopping. Not to mention, those businesses rely heavily on people being able to drive there.

        We all know the city is changing, but no need to be ignorant about the fact that yes… some people do rely on cars to get around. To some people, that’s what makes a neighborhood “livable” 

        • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (7:34 pm)

          no, everyone saying that parking is required makes is about them. There are more like me, perhaps check your privilege? I’m guessing you own a home and rely on a car. When we focus on what makes us all people, one of those is listening to other view points. Apparently my view point offends you; which makes your comments self centered. realizing that most people don’t want to live like you makes it important we change our ways. Your argument against me is making it about YOU!!!! I know it is hard to understand.

          • CMT February 28, 2018 (9:04 am)

            Attempt to pit homeowners against renters  – check

            Refer to person with opposing viewpoint as privileged in attempt to discredit – check

            Make assumptions about other person – check

            Fail to recognize validity of points being made  – check

            When all else fails, turn to twitter seeking to get followers from outside the neighborhood to harangue posters that don’t agree – check. 

            I think almost everyone here recognizes the need for affordable housing, increased density, viable  alternative transportation solutions and reducing our impact on the environment.  Respectfully, your  single-focused and well-funded arguments fail to recognize today’s reality and conditions in the Junction and the valid viewpoints of people that live and have lived in a West Seattle for a long time.

          • JJ February 28, 2018 (4:03 pm)

            Thank you CMT well stated. Excellent and valid points.

          • Mark M February 28, 2018 (6:21 pm)

            Bryce, I am glad you Think that way, I always need good tenants. If everyone qualified for or wanted to own/ live in a single family detached home my tenant base would dwindle. Thank you again for your choice to be mobile in lifestyle your ideals support my retirement plan in every way and I want to thank you for your forward thinking perspective.  Cheers grasshopper

          • JN March 1, 2018 (6:06 pm)

            Awww. You ended up making it all about you. There are more like you? You lost all respect when you called in your Twitter trolls. Ya gotta be more invisible. West Seattleites can spot a fox in sheep’s clothing instantly.

      • West Seattle since 1979 February 27, 2018 (2:17 pm)

        Not everyone can walk long distances or even 2-3 blocks. 

      • Rusty February 28, 2018 (3:33 pm)

        Think for yourself…

        https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/02/Groupthink.pdf

      • Mark M February 28, 2018 (6:13 pm)

        I will just bet you use a car for some things. You cannot get around it in Seattle with our spotty bus/light rail service areas and if you buy things larger than a suitcase I will bet you don’t strap it to your bike . I have a neighbor that is really trying to do no car and they both have cargo bikes and ride their kids to school on them everyday and commute with bikes too but I also see the Reach car over there occasionally and having in laws loan them cars or trucks too. Its do-able to cut down but no car ever? I think someone has some alternative facts going…Just sayin.

        • Jon Wright March 1, 2018 (5:46 pm)

          You spotted them using a car share every now and then…way to catch those so-called carless people red handed! They totally sound like frauds to me.

  • Peter L. February 26, 2018 (5:02 pm)

    A new sleeper development. 

    Snooze to me. 

    Guess we can take this lying down. 

    I’ll recline from further comment. 

    • Azimuth February 26, 2018 (6:09 pm)

      Geez, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed

    • Erithan February 26, 2018 (6:10 pm)

      Hopefully they’ll look bed-der then some of the other new stuff.


      Sorry to tired for a more worthy pun. ; ;

      • Mat February 27, 2018 (11:18 am)

        You guys made my day…bed with all of these puns LOL

  • Swede. February 26, 2018 (5:10 pm)

    I find the extremely low quality of construction interesting, and sadening at the same time.  A 79 year young building ‘deteriorating from the roof down’ is really bad! I live close to the ‘Morgan junction’ and there is a major renovation project there where they replacing all the balconies on one apartment (maybe condos, I haven’t checked) because they where so rutted out they literally fell off the side when they started the work! And that place only been there since -97… 

    Guessing whatever being put up in this place won’t make it even 79 years like the current place managed. 

    • CAM February 26, 2018 (6:33 pm)

      I may be wrong, but I believe the age of the building you are saying is getting reno’d likely puts it right in the time frame of all the unscrupulous condo developers who did some really shoddy work which ultimately resulted in a change in the laws surrounding condo buildings that now make them less than attractive for developers to build.
      Having just gone through an adventure in the condo market, I can tell you that the number of condo buildings built in the 90s which are now getting substantial renos is quite shocking.

      • Swede. February 27, 2018 (12:18 am)

        It’s beyond poorly made, and from seeing how current houses are built, it’d be the same with them. Most construction is a level or two bellow the worst IKEA furniture ever made! 

        Hope your ‘adventures’ did end well for you. 

    • RayWest February 27, 2018 (4:09 am)

      A building will last practically forever if it is properly maintained and correctly built in the first place. My house is 100 years old and  solid as a rock and I do not need to tear it down and build something else. The condo behind me, however, has undergone at least four (being fully wrapped in plastic with scaffolding around it) major repair jobs since it was built in the late 80s. Virtually every condo that was built in that time period was guaranteed to have major problems.  So I guess my question is, why wasn’t the the old “Wigwam” building  better maintained over the years? I guess the development there is inevitable, as profit is the driving force, but soon there will be nothing left of the old West Seattle Junction I grew up with. 

  • TJ February 26, 2018 (5:16 pm)

    Why the stress on parking spaces? Because people will continue to have cars, even if they travel to work downtown on public transportation. Since Seattle is unfortunately following the path of San Francisco, it should see what is going on there. Traffic worse than here with a light rail system people here envy. Car ownership is not going away. Ignoring that and pretending that won’t be the case would be regrettable and selling out current residents

    • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (8:43 pm)

      no, having people subscribe to your idea of what is required to live in Seattle is the problem. I’m car free, yet I live a full life. I hike on the weekends without a car. I travel all over the city with multiple options to get around, just because you believe a car is required doesn’t make it true. Get out once in a while, expand your horizons, I can imagine it is difficult, but a car isn’t required.

      • Canton February 26, 2018 (10:27 pm)

        Do you have family, or kids?

        • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (7:03 am)

          I don’t have kids. But kids don’t require car ownership, lots of my friends are car free and they have kids! They have a bike they call their minivan, mom drives the two kids around on that. Also I see kids taking the bus every day, so I don’t now why a family is required to own a car.

          • Also John February 27, 2018 (10:32 am)

            I’m out hiking pretty much 3 out of 4 weekends….year round.  Twice a month spending the night along a trail campsite.  I need a car for this.  How will I get there?  I could rent a car?….or call an Uber driver to pick me up at some PCT trailhead?….or Olympic Mountain NP trailhead?  With snow on the ground I need my four wheel drive to reach numerous trailheads.   How do you do it Bryce? 

            In the summer I’m loading my whitewater kayak on my truck and tossing my bike in the back.  I leave my bike at the end of my drift and drive up to the put in spot.  After kayaking the river section I unlock my bike and ride up to my truck.  How do you do this Bryce? 

             My family has property on the Gulf Islands in Canada.  I carry all the materials and gear needed for a long weekend visit in my truck.  How do you do this Bryce?

             Some of us simply need a vehicle. 

             

          • unicorn February 27, 2018 (1:52 pm)

            I want to hear about this magic minivan bike .  If I can leave work at 5, pick up one kid at school and then the other at daycare, and then make it home before hangry meltdowns start at 6pm, I’d go by bike or bus too. 

             (I am assuming a car free family is easier when both parents don’t work full time outside the home?  If this mom with a minivan bike is a single mom, I’d love to give her a medal, honestly)

            Definitely spent many of my single years, and a few ‘DINK’ years car-free, and it was so easy, so I can see where you might expect that everyone can life their lives as effortlessly car free as you do.

      • Suds February 27, 2018 (8:00 am)

        I’m proud of you for doing that, but it’s the height of arrogance to expect everyone else to do as you do. It only further divides and irritates. Don’t be preachy

        • Jon Wright February 27, 2018 (8:50 am)

          Advocating for a car-centric environment: just being realistic.

          Pointing out that it is possible to exist without a car: arrogant and preachy.

          • Patrick H. February 27, 2018 (9:04 am)

            I have to think Suds was being sarcastic.

      • East Coast Cynic February 27, 2018 (8:50 am)

        How to you get to the places where you go hiking without a car?  Car2go? Lyft? Uber?  Tag along with friends who have a car to get you to those places?  Because that would not be going without a car, even if you don’t own a car.

        I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to choose to get around without owning a car, even if you use options that involve a car. Just that life can be very difficult to get around when the public transit options are not nearly as available as those in the major international cities–London, NYC, Paris, Berlin, etc.

        • Kara February 27, 2018 (11:45 am)

          You got to remember Bryce that West Seattle was a quiet little town not too long ago with a main street of shops. I know its getting built up, but people live here and have lived here for a very long time. As a single person I was carless the whole time I lived in Seattle. I now have two cars, but live in Tacoma, whenever I come to visit my family in West Seattle I bus. But when carless I could never go camping unless I could get someone to come with me, there was no uber or car2go until relatively recently. With buildings come people and more often than not they are parking in front of homes and neighborhoods that haven’t had to deal with this before. I’m all for a car free society, but we aren’t there yet, gotta give it a little more time. So we all need to give each other time to transition and tone down the judgement. 

        • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (7:46 pm)

          Things can be difficult to get around without a car, but saying by default I own a car is pathetic. I do take Reachnow, Car2Go, but I don’t own a car which make me car free. I spend about $2,000 a year on rentals and access to a car, but I don’t need to own my own. SO saying that I need to own my own car and saying I’m not car free is wrong. Sorry you don’t understand what owning a car means vs renting a car.

          • Canton February 28, 2018 (8:27 am)

            Hear a lot of hypocrisy in your argument Mr. Lobbyist. So your opinion is superior cause you rent your wheels? Get on a bike, then do your grandstanding, that would be more respectful. So you sit in your rented car, help clog traffic, add to vehicle emissions, while getting “paid” to stand on your soap box??? What about climate change, asthma, obesity?

    • DH March 1, 2018 (4:22 pm)

      TJ is absolutely right! People will ALWAYS have cars here in the good ol’ US of A. Try having a physical disability and not being able to find parking. Bryce, you need to get out of your myopic world and open up to the whole realm of humanity that exists. Not everyone is young, able bodied and able to live YOUR life. Get a clue buddy!

  • Question Authority February 26, 2018 (5:17 pm)

    It seems that the only way to prevent local uprisings with pitchforks and torches is now to sell your development as “all local” to get off the hook for more of the Junctions demise.

  • just wondering February 26, 2018 (5:18 pm)

    Possibly seven stories?  

    Yuck

    • Swede. February 26, 2018 (6:56 pm)

      At current zoning yes. But since ‘HALA’ will go thru likely higher, since more is better, for profits. And that’s always #1… 

      • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (8:45 pm)

        since it is better for the city, current and future residents. But then again, those of us who can’t afford a single family house are “bad” according to those who oppose HALA.

        • CMT February 26, 2018 (10:46 pm)

          Yet renters oppose MHA (that’s the rezone part of HALA FYI) too since they know it will result in higher property taxes passed on to them and redevelopment of existing rental homes, leading to displacement.   

          BTW, it is great that you enjoy a car free lifestyle.  Harder to do with young children or if you are elderly and/or have mobility issues. We need to be realistic about our neighbors’ needs and limitations.

          • Nigel February 27, 2018 (12:10 am)

            ADA mass transit is key to my movement in the city; changing/aging health issues is the reason I had to give up driving my private car. I find it much easier and affordable to use mass transit. Also “renters” do not have a single point of view. Since that group is made up of many people there are many perspective. Please do not speak for me or everyone else.

          • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (7:07 am)

            I have to agree with Nigel on this, I’m a renter and support MHA. So think we can cast the city in amber is foolish, as more people move here my rent goes up as limited units are in high demand for an increasing population. Also I’m not telling everyone to live car free, but I’m at a loss as why everyone believes I should be forced to have my rent increased when I don’t use the spot that you all want me to be required to have? Requiring parking add anywhere from $60,000-$90,000  a unit, that works out to around $500 a month in a rent increase. 

          • CMT February 27, 2018 (9:18 am)

            Nigel – Kind of like saying that anyone who opposes MHA/HALA thinks that people that can’t afford single family homes are bad – which is patently absurd.  But I am happy to fix it so that I am not speaking for you:

            Many renters oppose MHA/HALA because it is a short sighted and a poorly thought out plan that caters to developers at the expense of individuals that do not qualify for subsidized housing, in the form of increased rents and displacement.  Moreover it fails to recognize the lack of infrastructure to support the rapid increase in density concentrated in discrete areas.

          • Swede. February 27, 2018 (10:15 am)

            Well said ‘CMT’. Kinda what I was going for but didn’t really make it clear enough I guess…

  • JustinVP February 26, 2018 (5:43 pm)

    I’ve been anticipating parts of that block to be redeveloped.  I figured it would be the parking lot and financial paper (old bank) building on the corner to go first,  but the buildings mentioned in this article are fairly ragged.

    The good news as I see it is that this block is being redeveloped in fairly small chunks, and hopefully a slow pace.  A few modest sized buildings naturally look and feel better than one huge one like Whole Foods or LA Fitness buildings.

  • LJ February 26, 2018 (6:43 pm)

    Many years ago I was told  by an elderly gentleman that there used to be a pond under where the junction feed and seed building  is located. 

    If that is true it may add to the construction costs since that was the  building on the south side of this proposed project. 

     

  • TAK February 26, 2018 (7:11 pm)

    the cultural assassination of West Seattle continues 

    • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (8:47 pm)

      can I ask you what that means? So your lot cut down the trees, paved over the land, and now adding density is assassination? Get a grip and realize your choices are different than mine. I care about climate change and prevent sprawl that will decimate our limited forests.

      • heyalki February 27, 2018 (7:16 am)

        This makes me assume you haven’t lived here for very long. WS used to be a charming quaint little suburb where most everyone knew each other, and it was amazing. Now, it’s just like every other place.

    • Cat Lady February 27, 2018 (6:06 pm)

      Well this is a nimby comment if I’ve ever read one. Good lord. 

  • JanS February 26, 2018 (7:45 pm)

    stress on parking because it’s the damned junction, and parking is at a
    premium now, and if anyone believes that the people who will live in
    that huge building won’t have cars, you’re a bit daft. Metro takes you
    to work, not skiing on the weekend, or to the zoo, or for a ride to the
    ocean and back, or to Southcenter or costco or any number of places. So,
    let’s not act surprised when people complain that there needs to be parking. Please !

    • Trickycoolj February 26, 2018 (10:23 pm)

      Amen.  I’m glad some folks here have figured out how to hike car free but you can’t exactly go skiing car free.  Heck my costco trip on my way home filled my car, no way I could have gotten all of it home on the bus with the required transfer downtown.

    • StevenJ February 27, 2018 (6:00 am)

      Just for clarification, route 21 from West Seattle turns into route 5 and takes you directly to the zoo. And the 128 takes you directly to south center. Some folks rent a car for the weekend to go to the ocean or to go skiing. Not owning a vehicle doesn’t mean you can’t do all the same things…

      It is a little weird how car-centric the junction is. It is getting built up and people are moving here at a high rate and there really is not going to be a free space left to park in the very near future.

      • heyalki February 27, 2018 (7:18 am)

        what’s wrong with cars?

        • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:01 pm)

          besides climate change? Asthma, obesity, and 30,000 deaths a year. Which one do you think is okay?

          • chemist February 28, 2018 (9:06 am)

            I expect if you polled residents of apartments in Seattle you’d find that most of our cars have far lower annual miles traveled/emissions than folks outside the city.  Maybe you would get more “bang for your buck” in focusing on reducing car use there/increasing density.

            A parked car isn’t really emitting any CO2.

    • gorillita February 27, 2018 (7:46 am)

      Metro does take you to the zoo (and children like riding the bus). Southcenter, to places you can catch a courtesy bus to casinos and  skiing.  You can get to the ocean too, with a little bit of planning.  You can ride Metro to the county line and then transfer to the next county’s bus.  And for those of us who are disabled or elderly, there’s Access which gets me to an amazing lot of places (and also has transfer to other counties’ similar services).  I am elderly and get all over the area.  I refuse to let not having a car hold me back.

  • RJ February 26, 2018 (7:49 pm)

    RIP Wigwam

    • 3GENSFROMWC February 27, 2018 (11:21 am)

      YEA! CheapyTeePee!

  • CherSeattle February 26, 2018 (8:07 pm)

    Depressing as hell. Bye West Seattle, it was nice knowing you.

    • WesCAddle February 27, 2018 (1:02 am)

      Yes. Because Sleepers in Seattle has always truly been the heart and soul of the junction. 

      • heyalki February 27, 2018 (7:19 am)

        hahaa right? i have lived here my whole life and never been there.

      • ImNotSpartacus February 27, 2018 (9:00 am)

        They do have some fascinatingly bad Yelp reviews. Meh – never used them and never would have. And the yoga place…well, there are a lot of other yoga places (and I do like yoga!).

  • Westside 3 February 26, 2018 (8:10 pm)

    I hope they can design in some setback and height variation, otherwise that stretch of California is going to feel like driving down a slot canyon.  7 stories roughly translates to 70 feet above grade.

  • Kris February 26, 2018 (8:35 pm)

    Has anyone been to Lake City  shopping area . It has tall buildings on either side of the street and is dark and dreary now. Its not a pleasant area to shop now and their is not a lot of foot traffic anymore.  If we have tall building on both side of the street in West Seattle shopping area the same thing  will happen here. 

    • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (8:55 pm)

      I’m sorry that your anecdote is wrong. It is factually proven the providing dense mixed use development in walkable neighborhoods (the junction being that) increases foot traffic and support for businesses. I know it is difficult to understand the changes, but it is true! These are positives for the businesses and Seattle. I welcome our new neighbors when the building is built.

      • Mark Schletty February 27, 2018 (9:52 am)

        Bryce— how will you welcome the new neighbors when you dont live here?  You keep making comments that make it sound like you are a West Seattle resident. You live in Federal Way. Who cares what you think about what is best for us, or if HALA is a good thing. And nothing we do here will cause your Federal Way rent to go up. Ride your bike in flat Federal Way and let us in Seattle use what we must to live here in the hills. 

    • Ray February 27, 2018 (11:32 am)

      The junction is going to be like NYC soon. Tall buildings everywhere, and not a single person on the street.

      • WSB February 27, 2018 (11:49 am)

        Hi, Ray. Not a single person on the street in NYC? In the half-dozen times or so I’ve visited, most recently last May, the streets have been jumping, at all hours! During that May visit we were out walking late at night, which I did alone during visits in younger years (and felt safe!), and continuously amazed at how many others were out walking. Unless you’re referring to some other part of NY – this was mostly Manhattan. – TR

        • Ray February 28, 2018 (8:47 pm)

          I am sorry, my sarcasm didn’t translate very well. I thought the ridiculousness of the statement would make it more obvious.

      • Peter February 27, 2018 (5:42 pm)

        Ray has quite obviously never been to New York. References to New York are to imply all that is evil  in the world to anti-urbanist. 

      • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:19 pm)

        What? 7 stories isn’t NYC and how does density mean no one around?

  • 1994 February 26, 2018 (9:07 pm)

    Thank you Bryce Yadon for being concerned about the earth. Please keep in mind most of us do our fair share too even if we drive a car, scooter, motor bike….or even ride the bus which uses fossil fuel too. And remember that you only pay 30% of the actual cost to ride the bus while taxes pick up the other 70% of the cost.

    • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (9:32 pm)

      guess what, I pay taxes that support cars, even though I don’t have one. Did you know that property taxes are how the City of Seattle pays for road maintenance, sidewalks, and well all transportation related issueds?  Also do you want all residents driving? If you drive doesn’t supporting transit, and keeping me off the road, support your bad climate habit? 

    • Bryce Yadon February 26, 2018 (10:14 pm)

      and all roads in the city are paid by property taxes so I’m confused by your point. Are you trying to say I don’t pay my fair share, because you are wrong. Cars are subsidized at a higher rate than transit.

      • heyalki February 27, 2018 (7:21 am)

        i wonder why all the roads are so bad 

        • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:21 pm)

          Because Eyeman passed a bad initiative that allowed for property taxes only to be raised by 1% a year (that isn’t inflation). So when you are surprised by you new tax bill, thank him for years of ignoring the needs of the city.

    • Ice February 28, 2018 (4:38 pm)

      I don’t really want to be bombastic here but I really don’t think you’ve done any research on this at all. The absolute best way to reduce your carbon footprint is to not drive. Even the production of a car causes an incredible amount of pollution (sorry Prius owners, but you aren’t nearly as green as you think). If you think doing your “fair share” to reduce the amount of pollution you produce is buying organic products or driving a Prius, you are sorely mistaken. Additionally, cars are indirectly heavily subsidized by the government. The government would actually save an incredible amount of money if everyone used public transit instead of driving. I am not holy-than-thou, however. I am a car owner and I love driving my car around.

  • Onion February 26, 2018 (9:25 pm)

    I trust Jack Miller, who probably has as much interest in retaining the character of the Junction as anyone. So   yes, please include parking for the rest of us who are getting older or can’t rely exclusively on public transport or bikes. 

  • Plf February 26, 2018 (9:43 pm)

    I use to go to huskies and northwest frame at least once a week for 20 years no longer a customer, since can’t find a place to park the vast majority of time

    i have found the met market in admiral has the same fun items except ice cream which  is not good enough to deal with the parking or lack of

    7 stories, even life long west seattle business owners at the end of the day will put profit ahead of other considerations, most of us would do the same

  • theresa February 26, 2018 (10:13 pm)

    guys i totally understand small cozy town feel but honestly when fire dept comes and does inspection and says to the emplyees if something comes up like earthquake get out of the building it will collapse then you gotta say ohh ok lets fix it……..its not just urban dev… it is literally these building will crumble they are not fit for some natural disaters that are real options here now …

  • seattlecris February 26, 2018 (10:17 pm)

    Jack, like me, probably remembers when we almost lost the junction when they put in paid parking. Jack is from West Seattle so he gets it. The junction needs parking. You come in, you shop a bit and then you go. The junction isn’t for hanging out shopping. It’s for real shopping. You can even get groceries in the junction!

  • aa February 26, 2018 (10:23 pm)

    Not everyone can take public transit. I have problems with motion sickness severe enough that I can’t take a bus or ride the water taxi. I have to drive.  And I didn’t get a sense he was emphasizing parking beyond the understandable desire to cut off the no parking complaints before they start.

    Judgy Judgersons!

    • chemist February 26, 2018 (11:15 pm)

      Some parking will be needed simply to help with move-in/out and to ensure whatever retail space can get deliveries. 

      I want to know how much bike parking, because the city council’s PLUZ committee heard from the Association of Pedestrian and Bicycle Professionals and is thinking the minimum bike parking going forward is 1 secured spot per 1 unit.  That’s a lot of bike parking for new buildings.

  • Curate February 26, 2018 (10:45 pm)

    Please make sure to offer appealing spots for Bakery Nouveau and NW Art and Frame so that they will be able to stay in the new building!

    • WSB February 26, 2018 (11:05 pm)

      Just to clarify … the proposed site only includes the buildings currently holding Sleepers and Bikram Yoga … Bakery Nouveau and NW Art and Frame are a different building (may not look that way, but they are) and not involved.

    • Imma mom February 27, 2018 (7:20 am)

      I hope that given these are small business owners they will keep the retail spaces “local”. Small businesses keep the junction super awesome!   

      PS what the heck is up with the empty restaurant space that says Vine-and spoon?  

    • gorillita February 27, 2018 (7:54 am)

      Please clarify:  I thought the new building was the yoga studio and Sleepers.  It was not my understanding that Bakery Noveau and NW Art were in that building??

      • WSB February 27, 2018 (8:01 am)

        As I said in the story and above, it’s Sleepers & Yoga.

  • TJ February 26, 2018 (11:02 pm)

    Bryce Yadon, I do get out. I jog 15 miles a week, I walk to Starbucks on weekends (all weather permitting). I drive for everything else. Always will. And not driving for climate change? Sorry, but that excuse is getting obsolete as cars keep getting more efficient and cleaner, never mind a future of electric cars looks realistic. The air here was far dirtier in the 1970’s than now. Regarding single family homes, yes, we are maxed out in the city. But sprawl has allowed Americans to realize the american dream of owning a home with a yard. And that is still true and is not changing. Yes, young adults and people close to retirement may want a apartment (and some people may never want a house, true), but most still at least want to own a house. It is part of american society. Most here in these apartments will have cars

    • chemist February 26, 2018 (11:23 pm)

      FYI, a quick google on Bryce’s name suggests they’re the policy director for Futurewise, currently lobbying the city council to further reduce mandated car parking (but increase bike parking).

      https://twitter.com/FuturewiseWA/status/966107198743957504

      • WSB February 26, 2018 (11:32 pm)

        Whomever Bryce is, they’re as welcome here as anyone else. I did mean to add that for those interested in the parking issue, we’ve reported on it several times, but the new rules are continuing to make their way through the council process. City website seems to be glitching right this moment (11:30 pm) but the rule changes’ main page is:
        http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/codesrules/changestocode/parkingrecommendations/whatwhy/default.htm

        • Mark Schletty February 27, 2018 (8:05 am)

          While, of course, all commenters are welcome, it should be known that Bryce Yadon is not a West Seattle resident. He is listed as living in Federal Way. His only interest in this proposal is a lobbying interest. Your readers deserve to know that.

          • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:26 pm)

            I am a west seattle resident. Sorry that I haven’t update my address.

      • Calires February 27, 2018 (12:55 am)

        Ah, yes, how dare anyone disagree with the lobbyist who knows what’s best for everyone?  I chose not to procreate, I work from home, regularly drive less than 1000 miles per year, and find myself digging through my trash to properly dispose of errant banana  peels, but people like Bryce make me want to buy a monster truck and convert it to a coal roller.

        • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:28 pm)

          awesome, when I can see your converted coal roller? I’ll buy you a beer if you want to hang out.

      • CMT February 27, 2018 (11:55 am)

        I’m simply shocked . . . said no one following this thread ;) 

        More and more it seems that special interest groups – frequently funded by those that stand to profit – are attempting to drown out the voices of actual residents by implying that they actually live in the areas to be affected.  It is disheartening for the people that are working hard to make sure residents are heard.

      • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:32 pm)

        That’s me!!!!! Fat people be damned (i’m fat so it is awesome to say)

  • TJ February 26, 2018 (11:13 pm)

    The statement about cars being subsidized more than transit is flawed. While roads may be paid for by property taxes, my car or gas is not (please save me the “cost of wars over oil”). Buses use these roads too, and they are heavily subsidized, along with the rides….

    • Jon Wright February 27, 2018 (9:30 am)

      What percentage of roads do buses use? I know they don’t use the road in front of my house, the road my kids’ school is on, or the road my wife’s office is on. Buses don’t require on-street parking, either. And there are plenty of other externalized costs associated with cars and fossil fuels, too. But I’m drifting awfully far off topic so I will shut up now.

      • chemist February 27, 2018 (10:17 am)

        Road damage follows a 4th power law, at least within the bounds of axle weight as studied for truck-sized vehicles (see AASHTO Road Test from the 80s and 50s for more info).  This is often over-extrapolated to talk about damage caused by small vehicles like bikes and cars, which I haven’t seen any studies about.   Buses have run into issues with axle load as they’ve bulked up with lift/kneeling mechanisms, AC, etc. while only having 2 or 3 axles.  But, when it comes to externalized costs, buses often have axle loads similar to big rig trucks.

        http://caltransit.org/advocacy/key-issues/bus-axle-weights/

  • Mark Schletty February 27, 2018 (7:57 am)

    Bryce is a paid lobbyist for Futurewise. They actively lobby statewide to end parking in new buildings. This is a tweet of his trying to get others to help him interfere in our West Seattle review process. It is important to know when a commenter has a paid for “position” on issues concerning all of us. 

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BAYadon

    I’m out here arguing for a 7 story building in the W SEA junction – it has parking, I’m complaining about that. Help me out!!!!

    • ACG February 27, 2018 (2:24 pm)

      Thank you, Mark and Chemist!

    • CMT February 27, 2018 (3:03 pm)

      This happens a lot.  Groups like (developer-funded) Seattle For Everyone, the Urbanist, Sightline, etc., encourage those from outside of West Seattle to infiltrate what otherwise seems like  neighborhood dialogue.  It’s great when residents and business owners have dialogue about differing viewpoints.  Not great when agenda driven non-residents pretend to represent local voices.

    • WS Guy February 27, 2018 (4:57 pm)

      Wow, that is really lame Bryce.  I see people on WSB get heckled and criticized as though owning a car were a sin.  It’s not fair to call in organized teams to hassle our neighbors.  

      Somewhere along the line the WSB must have gotten on the radar of Futurewise, Seattletransitblog etc. because we are being actively monitored for discussions like this now.

      • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:52 pm)

        what? I’m a west seattle resident and I don’t understand what your frustration is. I’m more than happy to sit down and discuss my issues what preventing large swaths of people being priced out of west seattle. I get that you all want to protect your investment, but talk to me before you say I am or am not for something. As I’m unwilling to hide who I am, please email me so we can have a discussion about how I’m not a “shill”. If I was I would make much more than I am today.

        • CMT February 27, 2018 (9:32 pm)

          Maybe it is your position with Futurewise and your Twitter post seeking reinforcements and your attempt to paint opponents of MHA as exclusionary that gave the impression your interest goes beyond a neighbor to neighbor dialogue…

    • Melanie February 28, 2018 (12:36 am)

      Putting out a call on social media for people to come brigade this neighborhood site thread when you are a lobbyist? Classy.

      I had my suspicions how genuine it was when most every comment was replied to to repeat his point. Authentic discussion doesn’t look like that.

      Thanks for confirming.

  • LK February 27, 2018 (8:03 am)

    no words of concern for the yoga studio?  it’s a awesome place…i’d be lost without it and feel anxious at the idea of it even moving temporarily.  bought my place nearby a couple years ago just to be closer to it!

  • Joan February 27, 2018 (8:21 am)

    I know we can’t stop “redevelopment” but I hate tall buildings. Seven stories will really ruin the character of our Junction. We have a nice open, low-building feel to it now, and I hate to see that vanish. The value of natural light is often overlooked. The charm of our old buildings makes West Seattle West Seattle. I drove through Greenwood yesterday and admired the buildings there. My hope is that all of Seattle’s neighborhoods can keep what makes them unique.

    • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (8:43 pm)

      so natural light is more important than people having a place to live?

      • CMT February 28, 2018 (10:53 am)

        Fortunately, it is not an either/or situation as developer-funded groups would have people believe since it is good for business.

  • dhg February 27, 2018 (8:47 am)

    Hundreds of years ago, the French developed a design philosophy of the best ratio of building height to width of the street.  The French Quarter in New Orleans was built using that philosophy.  It is amazing.  It feels good just to be there.  I wish those rules were part of every design decision.  I suppose it’s not realistic for the modern world but tall canyons that block the sun make Seattle sidewalks dreary.

    • Chas Redmond February 27, 2018 (1:58 pm)

      Worth noting that those same French design principals were employed by Washington and L’Enfant for Washington, DC, a higher density city with underground subway stations all over the city and yet no building is higher than 14 stories, other than the monuments and church steeples.

    • Peter February 27, 2018 (5:48 pm)

      Dhg has obviously never been to Paris. Almost everything rises 80 feet straight up from the sidewalks, even on narrow streets. The designed, scenic thoroughfares are the exception and do not reflect the rest of the city. I support high density development, but not if the goal is that we end up looking like most of Paris. 

  • wscommuter February 27, 2018 (9:14 am)

    @Calires … best post EVER.   After reading the lobbyist spewing,  I was thinking of burning my Sierra Club card and buying a Humvee, ’cause it takes two parking spaces.  

  • JB February 27, 2018 (9:26 am)

    Bryce, It’s fantastic that you live car-free. However you keep using anecdotal evidence based primarily on your own life about living without a car, and perhaps you should take a moment to reflect on the lives of others who choose to own. Believe me, I would LOVE to get rid of my vehicle too. They’re expensive to buy, maintain, and insure. I despise driving in and around the Seattle area due to inattentive drivers and traffic. Not to mention the impact on the environment. And worst of all – finding parking. However the reality is that many people, myself included, find car ownership unavoidable. I am staunchly pro-public tranist and pro-density, and take the bus or light rail whenever I can. However sometimes it’s just not practical or possible. My job for example, often requires me to travel throughout the state with expensive equipment that would not fit on a bus. What would you expect someone in my situation to do? Rent a car for a day? Hire an Uber? Find a friend with a car to drive me? Living without a car, unfortunately, is just too impractical in many situations. Now that doesn’t mean that I don’t do everything I can to mitigate my impact, and I highly encourage others to do so as well. I drive a small, fuel-efficient compact car. We only have one car for a household of two. I take public transit whenever possible. But yes, I do still own a car, which unfortunately still does need parking. And that brings us back to the situation of parking in the Junction. Yes, there is currently ample free parking in the lots and streets in and around the area. But as density continues to rise, that parking will become more and more scarce as I’m sure many of your neighbors can already tell you. And as long as people continue to own cars (and they WILL continue to own cars), parking will be needed. I understand that the system is flawed, but I choose to stay optimistic about our city’s progress and that one day I won’t feel the need to own a car. But until that day, I still need somewhere to keep my car.

    • Bryce Yadon February 27, 2018 (9:02 pm)

      Hey JB – I can sympathize with your comments. Lots of people will need a car and parking, but why require those without a car to pay for those that do own a car? I actually have no problem with car ownership, regardless of what this string says. Cars are important, my only request is that you don’t make me pay for your desire to have a car. Pretty simple yeah? 

      • chemist February 28, 2018 (12:37 pm)

        Ok, so you’re fine with the idea of there being a right ratio of parking built between per unit of housing and overbuilding what people will pay for is a terrible subsidy that increases the cost of housing.  Best to let the developers sort it out.  

        I only request that you don’t make me pay for overbuilding bike parking beyond what people will pay for too.  It might be a smaller subsidy, but the developers are better able to determine what bike parking people will pay for and an increase to require MFH build 4x more than current standards citywide is not in line with what people need city-wide.

        Oh wait, it looks like FutureWise wants to demand more bike parking in building codes.  I hope you’ll instruct Futurewise to reconsider that policy because it sounds like a subsidy for bicyclists.

        https://twitter.com/FuturewiseWA/status/966107198743957504

      • Vivian February 28, 2018 (3:02 pm)

        I don’t understand your reasoning here, are you saying you don’t want a parking spot, so no one should have one?? Otherwise, buy a condo without a spot.

      • travelinggranny March 1, 2018 (5:03 pm)

        Bryce. Who is asking you to pay for me to own a car? No one. If you rent in a building that offers parking and you feel your rent is subsidizing that parking then don’t rent in that building. Why so against a building having parking available to its tenants? Shame on you for trying to lobby against Jack. You got schooled big time!

  • Craig February 27, 2018 (9:28 am)

     Last year, the percentage of Seattle households that own a vehicle declined — the first time that’s happened in decades. More specifically, car ownership among Seattle residents under the age of 35 dropped by an estimated 3 percentage points. That’s the biggest dip among the 50 largest U.S. cities  Source Seattle.Curbed dot com.

    You DON’T NEED A  CAR IN SEATTLE.

  • AP February 27, 2018 (9:41 am)

    I’ve been in WS almost 11 years, all as a renter. I love my neighborhood but I’ve been priced out as a potential buyer. I care what happens here and I’m not the only renter that thinks like this. I’m also a car owner and my building has OSP. The first 5.5 years I drove to work every day. It took 2 – 3 hours round trip every day on the bus to go about 20 miles. That is insane. I did that for 3-4 months then bought a vehicle. Changed jobs and worked downtown so I took the bus every day and only drove my vehicle once or twice a week.

    My almost 20 year old vehicle  was paid in full when I bought it. My only expenses are insurance, gas, maintenance or when things pop up. My insurance and gas is basically the same cost as a rt taxi or uber to the airport. I’d be crazy to get rid of my vehicle because of the convenience and flexibility it gives me.

    Parking is tight in the junction now; just wait until there are more residents here. Jack is right to think ahead and include parking. Other new developments aren’t and who knows what will happen to the existing free parking lots in the future? Those could easily be gone and parking will be almost non-existent in the junction. Lead by example- if Jack’s development includes parking, maybe others will too.

    I’m not fond of a 7 story building that creates a tunnel in the junction either. However, if it is going to happen I’d much rather see it be a WS person/team than someone coming in without an accurate and long-term sense of this community. 

    The quality of construction (or lack thereof) isn’t just a WS thing; it’s everywhere. If a building “can’t” be built to last more than a few decades we are doing everyone a disservice and not being very smart. What’s needed now might be different than what is needed in the future; builders, architects and the city need to think about that. I suspect that most of the time that kind of thoughtfulness about development is tossed out the window and stuff just gets slapped up instead. 

  • Mark in Dallas February 27, 2018 (10:18 am)

    I love West Seattle. Lived there for a year while I worked across the viaduct. Beautiful place. Want to come back to visit if not relocate permanently some day. What area natives need to know is that much of the developed world beyond to the east is in love with and heavily depend upon their cars. Seattle’s public transportation system is wonderful; I was able to thrive for a year without a car. That boggles the minds of most of my Texan friends when I tell them. For many, parking is an absolute must. Glad to hear they’re addressing the issue & can’t wait for my next visit to see what y’all have done. 

  • KBear February 27, 2018 (10:41 am)

    I find it odd that anyone could accuse Jack Miller of trying to “ruin the character” of the Junction. Jack is one of the biggest characters in the Junction, and no Junction business has more character than Husky Deli. I doubt anyone cares more about the Junction’s character than Jack.

  • WSeattleite February 27, 2018 (11:13 am)

    It was bound to happen at some point. I can think of no better person to be involved in the design than Jack. Standup guy. I have full confidence that he will bridge the past with the future in an appropriate way.  I can only hope that the businesses involved including Husky Deli will continue on in their new home.  For those complaining about West Seattle loosing its character, Jack is West Seattle and a character as well. :). Let’s see what they come up with, and let’s be thankful some Architecture Firm in NYC is not doing all the design without any local influence. 

  • RS February 27, 2018 (12:05 pm)

    You people arguing back and forth about the need for a car in Seattle are insane. If you can do without owning one, that is great. Good for you. Some people actually need a car. They have their job that takes them all around the city or materials they need to transport. Or they have children or relatives that need to be shuttled around or they participate in a number of activities in the surrounding area that require large gear and a vehicle. Pretending that Seattle will automatically or even quickly become a car-free utopia is beyond naive. Traffic as it is, will most likely NEVER get better. Sorry to say. Along with the additional transit options (light rail in over 12 years, ha) , you also have a push for the additional population density. That increased density includes people who have cars and people who do not. 

    • WS Guy February 27, 2018 (5:14 pm)

      You don’t have to apologize for owning a car.  You don’t even have to justify it. You can do what you want.

      I suggest that if you want the car to be of use in ventures to the Junction, that you (all) consider voting for politicians that agree.  Jack will pay quite a bit of permit fees and taxes that will go to many things that your politicians have virtue-signaled are important.  Parking is not one of them.  He’s paying for that himself.  Many developers will not.

  • Alex February 27, 2018 (1:16 pm)

    Thank you Chemist for pointing out Bryce’s affiliation. Developers have poured money into groups that will post and support MHA. Jack to his credit is putting parking in which I suspect most others will not given the Junction’s urban village status. I hope everyone who lives near the Junction has reviewed the City’s plans for rezoning this area. Taller buildings/no parking as well as the single family homes (there are hundreds of them) that will be rezoned for redevelopment as 2 homes/no parking. Where will all these people park? Probably on the streets outside of the urban village. The map can be found at https://seattlecitygis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=d3425fef5b884c29a710761c163b347a If you are not thrilled with the impact on the junction, consider supporting SCALE, the group that has appealed the City’s Environmental Impact Statement. https://www.seattlefairgrowth.org/

    I was not paid to comment.

  • blbl February 27, 2018 (1:22 pm)

    Craig, I couldn’t help but notice that after that whopping three percentage-point drop, the percentage of car owners is STILL OVER 80%.  That hardly proves that cars aren’t necessary.  And ask a millennial – it’s not that they don’t want to own a car, it’s that they simply can’t afford one.  That’s not a good thing. 

  • KM February 27, 2018 (2:48 pm)

    Will it have gluten free options?

  • Michael Waldo February 27, 2018 (2:49 pm)

    Spoiled, selfish people who don’t think about the working class. I never hear anyone sticking up for the working man and women in Seattle.

    If your are a carpenter, gardener, house painter, sheet rocker, plumber, electrician, or any other blue collar working folk, you are just ignored. You need a vehicle to haul you and your tools and equipment from home to a work site. Or people like me who can drive and walk a little but can’t stand and
    wait for a bus. Plus I can only manage a certain number steps per day before it causes to much pain to continue. When I painted houses, I often went to the job site, then, Oh, oh, ran out of caulking. Off to the store. back to the job site. Then, so freaking tired after a long day of physical labor, I would PARK in the Junction to go eat or pick up something to take home. So according to the Bryce  philosophy, these folks need not apply to live in Seattle because they need a vehicle to do their jobs. Hey Bryce, you brag about all the things you do without a car. I would like to see you take a 24 foot ladder on the bus. Or a large air compressor to power your tools. Or how about a 5 gallon bucket of paint.

    • 935 February 28, 2018 (8:29 am)

      FIST BUMP Michael Waldo.

    • brandon 5406 February 28, 2018 (10:30 am)

      I agree Michael.  (some) People tend to forgot how their goods and services move around the city.  Look and Amazon deliveries alone, either by private care, or commercial delivery.  Reading a local delivery nightmare in downtown shows that these business enterprises are being left out of the equation.  While Bryce maybe shrill in his responses to people, confrontational and pushy, I wouldn’t be concerned about his entry to the Blog.  It looks pretty tame.

  • Car4me February 27, 2018 (3:45 pm)

    Thank’s for calling out the plant.  His “fake news” only makes me believe anyone claiming to be carless  less. The VAST majority of us want, and need a car. Sitting at home surfing the internet or staring at a phone doesn’t appeal to me!! Couple of point’s. I have a niece and nephew that didn’t get a car until they were almost 30. Reason: with school debt they couldn’t afford until they got their 1st real job’s. They both wanted, and have car’s now. Funny story:when my nephew got his first good job he had an apartment on 12th-across from SPD’s East precinct. 99% of the renters were under 40 he said. He was glad to have his smaller car because it was tight parking with all the full size trucks and suv’s that  were in the garage.    My brother-in-law retired from Metro 5 years ago after a 40 year career. The standard # while he was there was 90% funded by government 10% funded by fares collected.

  • Junction Lady February 27, 2018 (3:57 pm)

    Since the odd building (SeaFirst bank when I was a kid) on the corner of Cali & Edmunds was mentioned in a prior post I would like to let them know that the parking lot btwn that bldg and Bikram yoga is a littered mess!

    I wonder what really goes on in that odd bldg with barely any windows and what’s up with the big ramp entry?

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  • TreeHouse February 27, 2018 (5:20 pm)

    They want to close our beloved Junction mattress store?! Shut the front door! Time for me to move out of West Seattle. Paradise RUINED! 

  • Sunuva February 27, 2018 (9:30 pm)

    Just a recent anecdote about parking in the junction. Last Friday, a bit before 6pm, we thought we could try to go find a bite to eat in the junction. A couple blocks away we could already tell the traffic was chaotic and heavy, likely from other people looking for parking. We took a couple loops around all the fully packed street parking, driving hopelessly past the free lots which already had multiple people camping waiting for spots to open, questioned openly why we even try anymore, and ultimately.. went to White Center.

  • KBear February 27, 2018 (10:47 pm)

    Free parking isn’t free. It’s subsidized by Junction merchants, and guess who they pass the cost onto! There are also plenty of pay lots in the Junction. There’s room for your car. 

  • RRNYC February 27, 2018 (11:35 pm)

    re: Parking & Transit

    Weighing in as a former NYC & Boston resident the mass transit here is terrible. The point of mass transit is to move people from one place to another—between home, work and shopping, and back again—quickly,conveniently and affordably. Seattle mass transit only accomplishes 1 of the 3 (affordability). Unless you’re only traveling to a major hub (i.e. downtown) and working  or shopping in one location it is neither quick nor convenient.My job requires me to visit clients all over the city throughout the day. Take a simple trip from Arbor Heights to Capitol Hill. If I take transit it takes 65 minutes, 2 buses and a light rail trip to get there.  If I drive, even with traffic, it takes 30 maybe 40 minutes tops.  If I make 2 or 3 trips between clients like that a day it adds hours to my commute time and limits the amount of clients I can see in a day.  Taking an Uber is cost prohibitive ($30 just from Arbor Heights to Cap Hill) and renting  a car — well that would require parking. :)

    In NYC the trains run everywhere, all the time. They are extremely reliable. Buses in Seattle – not so much. They need to use the roads just like cars so they are subject to weather and traffic. Bottom line – until Seattle puts in reliable, quick and convenient mass transit people will continue to use / need their cars.

  • Jeannie February 28, 2018 (12:00 am)

    Well, if it’s West Seattle developers, then it’s OK. /s

  • Steve February 28, 2018 (9:26 am)

    I think the Furniture Store needs to be added to the National Register of Historic Places.  I’ll try and get the paperwork movin’ today.

  • Rick February 28, 2018 (9:32 am)

    And I left the farm in Kansas 55 years ago for this? Seemed like a good idea at the time…

  • zark00 February 28, 2018 (11:27 am)

    Best comments thread in a while – Bryce Yadon got completely owned which was extremely entertaining.  I highly doubt he lives in WSea, he’d know something about what parking at the junction really means if he actually lived here.  Bryce, yer done here buddy, you lost your credibility with your twitter call to arms. 

    • CMT February 28, 2018 (1:18 pm)

      On the downside, he and/or his non-West Seattle followers will likely return under different names in an attempt to manipulate the neighborhood conversation.

      On the bright side, they will likely be easy to identify based upon their tactics and lack of authentic knowledge of the neighborhood which don’t seem to vary.

      • Jon Wright March 1, 2018 (6:01 pm)

        Thank goodness for your vigilance keeping tabs on those heretics who would have our beloved Junction morph into something that wasn’t car-centric!

        • CMT March 1, 2018 (8:50 pm)

          I’m all for reducing automobile usage where practicable – and I do so.

          If you don’t have a problem with developer funded lobbyists and their minions posing as residents in order to line developers’ pockets  at the expense of your neighbors, that’s your prerogative.

          • Jort March 1, 2018 (10:23 pm)

            Wait. What’s the “expense of your neighbors” you’re talking about. Please help me understand how “developers” are literally “lining their pockets” using my neighbors’ money. I’m curious and would like to know more. 

            I have not received a shakedown for cash from a developer as I attempted to enter my home, and I live in West Seattle. Is there a special “fee” I should be paying to the big bad developer boss? 

            Please help me, I’m confused.

          • CMT March 2, 2018 (8:51 am)

            Somehow I doubt you are confused.  However, I will break it down.  Developers fund groups to advocate for things like wholesale rezones (so they can build in desirable areas and make profits), and no parking requirements (cheaper and thus higher profits).  In the former instance, for many reasons, existing residents are economically disadvantaged and vulnerable residents are displaced.  In the latter, individuals with factors that limit their ability to utilize the community amenities without a car are disadvantaged.  

            Developer groups spend a lot of money to push a narrative (like Brett Yadon’s) that seeks  to demonize those that might slow down their goals.

  • Diane February 28, 2018 (1:31 pm)

    fyi; true Ed Hewson lives in West Seattle; also true, Ed Hewson is a BIG TIME developer; take a look at some of the projects on his website, in the story

    • XXX February 28, 2018 (4:35 pm)

      And?

  • German Bee February 28, 2018 (3:18 pm)

    Makes me wonder which other wolves in sheep cloth, who own big

    chunks of property in the Junction, will follow this example. What did

    these owners do over the years to keep the buildings from deteriorating? ?   Very clever “sales pitch”. Needs to be watched!

     

  • Meyer March 1, 2018 (7:45 pm)

    This is great news for the Junction! More retail, residential and parking places exactly where we need it – in the heart of downtown. Its developments like these that create actual livable, walk able and enjoyable large cities and not just some sprawling suburb where everyone owns 6000 sq ft yards and has to drive a mile to the near grocery story.

  • ELLY March 1, 2018 (8:31 pm)

    Rant: Can we make sure NOT to put a bunch of lights on top like that new apartment building across the street that stay on all night and are a waste of electricity, screw up the skyline, and increase light pollution? And no more 20-foot high LA FITNESS signs? Let’s try keeping with the character of the neighborhood. Utilize a real architect.  Outdoor covered seating would be nice, public spaces also. And no more “ReMax Junction” crap. Ugh. And keep the sidewalks open during construction!! Sick of almost getting run over so private developers can get rich. This mostly superficial stuff but details matter. All this development would be easier to tolerate if it actually improved the lives of people who live here. 

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