@ West Seattle Transportation Coalition: Reviewing the city’s responses to the Top 5; mitigation money; more…

By Tracy Record
West Seattle Blog editor

Four months ago today, the West Seattle Transportation Coalition informed the city of what it considers the five “most pressing transportation issues” for the peninsula, and set a deadline for responses on what could/would be done about them.

In some cases, the answers boiled down to “not much, without spending a ton of money,” as you might have seen in our report earlier this month, featuring the replies sent to the WSTC right at the wire.

Meeting for the first time in 2015, the WSTC said in essence, that’s not good enough. Its list of 5, meantime, is down to 4. Here’s how the discussion, and other hot transportation topics, unfolded:

WSTC’S 5 PRIORITIES, THE FOLLOWUP: Reviewing the responses, WSTC co-chair Amanda Kay Helmick observed that overall, they seemed more about keeping a dialogue open than recommending solutions, with the exception of what was #2 in the September letter, an emergency-relief plan for the peninsula, shelved because the presentation at WSTC’s last meeting convinced them that the city has it covered. Otherwise, regarding the other points, there was general concern that the SDOT replies were a little more dismissive than they should be.

For issue #3, increasing access to the westbound Spokane Street Viaduct from SODO, Michael Taylor-Judd said the SDOT reply seems to “shrug” at the fact that access was reduced when the SSV was widened – taking away the 4th Avenue onramp – and while its response says they’ll “look at it,” in Taylor-Judd’s words, “they should have been looking at it 10 years.”

The answers that could be distilled to “not likely any time soon since it would cost a lot,” were considered less than satisfactory. Some hope then was expressed that if the city can’t build some needed infrastructure, maybe the Port of Seattle can (as it did with the East Marginal flyover south of the “high-rise” WS Bridge). SDOT mentioned the Port as well, in its reply about #4, completing the Lander Street Overpass project.

Issue #5, faster handling of incidents that block all or part of the bridge, generated the most discussion – including towing policy. WSTC resolved to ask Seattle Police for more information about that. Next steps on that include involvement in the West Seattle Bridge Corridor Management Task Force meetings that are expected to start by spring.

Now, more of what came up at the WSTC meeting:

LEGISLATURE TRANSPORTATION PACKAGE? King County Executive Dow Constantine‘s transportation adviser Chris Arkills said so far, it was looking like if there will be one, it will happen sooner rather than later. From what he’s hearing, it will include a mix of taxes. And he said that every version he’s seen/heard of so far does include two more years of the soon-to-run-out “mitigation money” covering transit compensating for the no-end-in-sight Highway 99 project.

MORE ABOUT METRO: Also from Arkills – the transit service is kicking off its process of developing a long-range plan. “It’s not going to be a task force or anything, it’s going to be a series of public meetings throughout the county,” likely starting soon.

SOUND TRANSIT’S NEXT BALLOT MEASURE: Arkills also offered information in this discussion. Taylor-Judd suggested that a Ballard vs. West Seattle battle for light-rail funding seemed to be shaping up. Helmick wondered if WSTC “needs to jump on that,” while later adding that she did not want to see West Seattle and Ballard pitted against each other, and was instead in favor of collaboration. Arkills said there were many ways that the various needs could be addressed – but probably not a “full meal deal” taking rail all the way into Ballard AND all the way into West Seattle.

BIKE-SHARING: Chas Redmond wondered why, with the Pronto bike-share bicycles so visible elsewhere in the city, aren’t they here in West Seattle (the service’s website erroneously touts stations “all over the city”)? Arkills suggested that was just because it’s a new program, and it’s starting smaller, as did car-sharing programs. He also suggested WSTC could be “constructive” by, for example, going to Pronto with suggestions for where its program might work here. And when someone suggested that bicycle lanes are still underused, a chorus of counters to that erupted. “As a driver, I feel safer” when bicycle and car traffic are separated as they are in some places downtown, for example, noted WSTC’s Deb Barker.

WESTWOOD BUS STOP IMPROVEMENTS: WSTC co-chair Helmick recapped Metro’s plan for lighting and sidewalk improvements at the Westwood “transit center,” which she had announced earlier this month, and recapped at last week’s Delridge District Council meeting (WSB coverage here).

SDOT’S MULTIMODAL CORRIDORS PROGRAM: Helmick also recapped last week’s Delridge DC presentation by SDOT’s Sara Zora, who she says will be at WWRHAH’s next meeting, 6:15 pm Tuesday, February 3rd, at the Southwest Branch Library (35th/Henderson).

PROPOSED BYLAW CHANGES: The proposals, as revised, will be up for a vote at future meetings, so watch the WSTC’s website and other channels for what’s proposed.

NEXT MONTH: WSTC will be trying for a guest from the Port, among other things.

WSTC now meets on fourth Thursdays, 6:30 pm, Neighborhood House’s High Point Center.

10 Replies to "@ West Seattle Transportation Coalition: Reviewing the city's responses to the Top 5; mitigation money; more..."

  • M January 28, 2015 (6:17 am)

    Seems like a Pronto station in each of the junctions would work and be used.

  • Kay K January 28, 2015 (7:26 am)

    On a more localized traffic note, HPAC will be hearing from SDOT tonight about the difficult intersection at SW Holden & Highland Park Way.

    Very frustrating delays for commuters and problems with folks short cutting through the neighborhood as a result.

    Meeting begins at 7PM at the HPIC building, 1116 SW Holden.

  • Debra January 28, 2015 (7:31 am)

    This issue of inability to effectively figure out a transpertaion system should be the catalyst to STOP development within west seattle
    Increase density, and a crumbling infrasture will only increase the horrific problems we are facing

  • John January 28, 2015 (8:20 am)

    Debra,
    Just how would you propose to stop development in West Seattle?

    Even if you proposal was legal, which of course it is not, stopping development would do nothing to reduce current transportation issues.

    What is the ‘crumbling infrastructure’ you don’t name?

  • East Coast Cynic January 28, 2015 (8:25 am)

    Re Issue #5, Wasn’t the WSDOT going to confer with the SPD months ago after the traffic delays on 99N in the morning rush when somebody appeared to have gone the wrong way on it w/ the delay aggravated by its usual slow as molasses response??? Apparently it appears that it dropped the ball on that—-Deliberately??

    • WSB January 28, 2015 (8:31 am)

      WSDOT is not accountable for traffic on 99 – the city is, even though it’s a state-owned structure. So that is part of this “corridor response.” Separate from that, we’ve published a variety of after-action reports, responses, etc. related to past incidents … will have to go haul up some links, unless anyone from WSTC sees this sooner and has them handier. – TR

  • M January 28, 2015 (9:28 am)

    Took my wife 2 hours to get home last night from downtown because of one stalled vehicle on 99S. SDOT seems to have no strategic plan for these situations and it locks up the entire downtown commute.

    My questions is why does the director of SDOT feel like it’s SO important to spend the money and time to personally fly to the Czech Republic to see why the street cars are delayed. Really??

  • heather January 28, 2015 (11:17 am)

    Sometimes I feel like the city wants to annex West Seattle. The lack of inclusiveness towards WS in long term planning (granted we’re included now) and such does have an impact on planning decisions made by groups like Pronto, car2go (reduced coverage in this area), etc. It makes a difference.

  • Aaron January 29, 2015 (7:18 am)

    My commute is 3.5 miles from west Seattle to just south of the Spokane st viaduct. Eastbound=10 min commute.
    Westbound+rush hour loading freight trains and boat traffic= often almost 45 min or more!!

    Whoever designed and approved the stupid westbound on ramp should be fired. It really cause all sorts of weird traffic jams with folks trying to get around trains. The old ramp worked way better.

    Why are freight trains loading back and forth blocking the only “non-viaduct” route to the north end if WS? Isn’t there a huge freight yard just to the south??

    I wonder if it isn’t time for Seattle to just ditch the port completely. It seems to cause more problems than it solves.

  • wetone January 29, 2015 (10:04 am)

    Soooo true Aaron, getting to WS from downtown, Sodo area, south seattle is much worse with the new redesign and will be even worse if tunnel is completed. WS fwy has 3 lanes going into areas mentioned above and one onramp lane for getting back to WS that is complicated and time consuming getting to from interruptions by trains and truck traffic. Add increasing and longer trains (coal)along with more Port activity, access to WS is screwed. I guess one could take lower bridge route ? oh but that would still have trains and marine traffic that requires the bridge to open :) Just one more very bad, not thought out, no common sense, poorly built project from our city.
    John you need to get out more if you don’t see any problems with our roads here in WS and many other areas through out the city ;)

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