Comments on: Memorial walk planned for pedestrian killed at 35th/Graham http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/ West Seattle news, 24/7 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 06:31:48 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: pixie http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193916 pixie Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:27:14 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193916 The road diet hasn't helped much on Fauntleroy. Twice while crossing in the crosswalk on Juneau St & Fauntleroy I've come within inches of being hit. Both times the cars in each direction had stopped and then someone deceided to go around the stopped traffic in the bike lane. I only cross now at intersections with traffic signals. The road diet hasn’t helped much on Fauntleroy.
Twice while crossing in the crosswalk on Juneau St & Fauntleroy I’ve come within inches of being hit. Both times the cars in each direction had stopped and then someone deceided to go around the stopped traffic in the bike lane. I only cross now at intersections with traffic signals.

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By: wsn00b http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193904 wsn00b Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:08:24 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193904 (I've probably have mentioned this a zillion times on WSB and will continue to do so...) The most dangerous thing about 35th is the bad quality of the road. I almost hit a person suddenly getting out of a parked car while trying to avoid damage from a badly resurfaced utility cut (which still exists despite SDOT "fixing" it on Ida/35th). I constantly have to scan for the road surface instead of safely looking further ahead for pedestrians. On the hill between Morgan and Myrtle, you can barely use the inner lanes due to ruts and potholes. In low traffic you can risk driving (for some sanity) like the 21 metro bus occupying the smooth halves of both lanes. California is a thoroughly ill-designed road diet. It endangers cyclists from exiting parkers. Parking cars and Buses that don't pull over completely add to the drivers getting frustrated and navigate using the turning lane. Please don't replicate the horrible design onto 35th which is the only leftover high bandwidth arterial that makes navigating the peninsula sane. IMHO, the extra lanes add room to avoid a jaywalker or other obstacles (did I mention potholes and ruts already?) Fix the surface, lane markings, lighting and add a speed radar if you must. The existing ones by Camp Long doesn't work as far as I can tell. Please don't reduce precious road capacity. (I’ve probably have mentioned this a zillion times on WSB and will continue to do so…)

The most dangerous thing about 35th is the bad quality of the road. I almost hit a person suddenly getting out of a parked car while trying to avoid damage from a badly resurfaced utility cut (which still exists despite SDOT “fixing” it on Ida/35th). I constantly have to scan for the road surface instead of safely looking further ahead for pedestrians. On the hill between Morgan and Myrtle, you can barely use the inner lanes due to ruts and potholes. In low traffic you can risk driving (for some sanity) like the 21 metro bus occupying the smooth halves of both lanes.

California is a thoroughly ill-designed road diet. It endangers cyclists from exiting parkers. Parking cars and Buses that don’t pull over completely add to the drivers getting frustrated and navigate using the turning lane. Please don’t replicate the horrible design onto 35th which is the only leftover high bandwidth arterial that makes navigating the peninsula sane.

IMHO, the extra lanes add room to avoid a jaywalker or other obstacles (did I mention potholes and ruts already?)

Fix the surface, lane markings, lighting and add a speed radar if you must. The existing ones by Camp Long doesn’t work as far as I can tell. Please don’t reduce precious road capacity.

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By: Kathy http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193802 Kathy Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:44:53 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193802 @Furor Scribendi: I disagree. Drivers exceeding the speed limit are the chief cause of endangerment to pedestrians, cyclists and other motorized vehicle drivers. Reaction time is less and impact is more deadly in case of an accident. During times of high traffic a road diet enforces compliance with the speed limit, and frees our police force resources to fight other crimes besides scofflaw speeding. I would like to know what you think the downside to a road diet on 35th would be? Less place to park your car in a traffic jam? Because in times when the bridge is not causing a huge backup, traffic would keep flowing at a steady rate closer to the legal speed. And in a traffic backup, it just means your car sits in a different place. Most likely 35th would remain 4 lane near the big junctions such as Alaska, Avalon, and Fauntleroy, just as California is still 4 lane at Alaska. I have a hard time buying your argument that 35th is more dangerous because people go out of their way to use it instead of Delridge and California. @Furor Scribendi: I disagree. Drivers exceeding the speed limit are the chief cause of endangerment to pedestrians, cyclists and other motorized vehicle drivers. Reaction time is less and impact is more deadly in case of an accident. During times of high traffic a road diet enforces compliance with the speed limit, and frees our police force resources to fight other crimes besides scofflaw speeding. I would like to know what you think the downside to a road diet on 35th would be? Less place to park your car in a traffic jam? Because in times when the bridge is not causing a huge backup, traffic would keep flowing at a steady rate closer to the legal speed. And in a traffic backup, it just means your car sits in a different place. Most likely 35th would remain 4 lane near the big junctions such as Alaska, Avalon, and Fauntleroy, just as California is still 4 lane at Alaska. I have a hard time buying your argument that 35th is more dangerous because people go out of their way to use it instead of Delridge and California.

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By: Citizen Sane http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193779 Citizen Sane Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:09:41 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193779 Two words: . Speed Radar . Most folks will slow down, and the dummies who don't will fill the city coffers. . Sounds like a 'win-win' to me. Two words:
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Speed Radar
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Most folks will slow down, and the dummies who don’t will fill the city coffers.
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Sounds like a ‘win-win’ to me.

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By: Furor Scribendi http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193724 Furor Scribendi Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:48:06 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193724 Remember the elderly woman killed while crossing California at Dawson St, by the Rite-Aid? Channeling traffic didn't save her then, and channeling traffic on 35th won't solve the problem because traffic volumes always find the path of least resistance. It could be argued channeling Delridge and California has driven more and more traffic to 35th to the detriment of Mr St Clair and others. A far better alternative is making 35th safer (lighting, speed reduction, more police enforcing the law) and consistently punishing violators. Remember the elderly woman killed while crossing California at Dawson St, by the Rite-Aid? Channeling traffic didn’t save her then, and channeling traffic on 35th won’t solve the problem because traffic volumes always find the path of least resistance. It could be argued channeling Delridge and California has driven more and more traffic to 35th to the detriment of Mr St Clair and others. A far better alternative is making 35th safer (lighting, speed reduction, more police enforcing the law) and consistently punishing violators.

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By: Morgan http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193680 Morgan Fri, 10 Jan 2014 20:47:37 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193680 This is a nice way to honor Mr. St. Clair. This is a nice way to honor Mr. St. Clair.

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By: Brian http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193645 Brian Fri, 10 Jan 2014 19:27:52 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193645 @Debbie: YES PLEASE! The whole reason you even need two lanes each way on that road is in situations where the left-most lane is blocked by someone who is trying to make a lefthand turn at an unprotected intersection. By having two lanes each way, the city is encouraging the behavior we see on 35th every day where people jockey for 1st place in their unending race to the next stop light. @Debbie: YES PLEASE!

The whole reason you even need two lanes each way on that road is in situations where the left-most lane is blocked by someone who is trying to make a lefthand turn at an unprotected intersection.

By having two lanes each way, the city is encouraging the behavior we see on 35th every day where people jockey for 1st place in their unending race to the next stop light.

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By: Debbie http://westseattleblog.com/2014/01/memorial-walk-planned-for-pedestrian-killed-at-35thgraham/#comment-1193590 Debbie Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:18:43 +0000 http://westseattleblog.com/?p=261438#comment-1193590 There is a solution to the dangers of "I-35."... Change it to the same set up as California ave... 1 x lane each way. Hearty center lane. Fat bike lane. Street car parking... This will solve the problem... There is a solution to the dangers of “I-35.”…
Change it to the same set up as California ave…
1 x lane each way.
Hearty center lane.
Fat bike lane.
Street car parking…

This will solve the problem…

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