West Seattle Crime Watch: 13-year-old burglary suspects arrested

October 15, 2013 at 8:40 am | In Crime, West Seattle news | 44 Comments

A West Seattle break-in last night has two young suspects in custody today. Here’s the report just published on SPD Blotter:

Two 13-year-old boys are in the Youth Services Center this morning following a burglary last night to a South Delridge apartment.

Last night, at about 11:30 pm, a man called 911 stating that he had just confronted two teenage burglars inside his residence in the 7900 Block of Delridge Way Southwest. After the confrontation, the suspects fled south out of the apartment.

A few minutes later, a Southwest Precinct officer arrived in the area and saw two teenage suspects matching the description provided by the victim get on a bus in front of the apartment complex. The officer detained the two while other officers contacted the victim.

The victim told officers that he and his wife were asleep but awoke when they heard voices and saw flashlights inside the apartment. The man confronted the suspects inside a guest bedroom. The suspects told the man they thought they were in their friend’s house. The victim told the boys to get out and then called 911.

Officers discovered that the back window screen had been removed and the window opened. The victim did a quick search of the apartment and discovered that an iPhone and iPod had been taken.

Officers brought the victim to the bus stop where he positively identified the two detained suspects. The two were arrested and transported to the precinct. During a search of the suspects, the victim’s stolen items were recovered. The items were photographed and returned to the victims. Officers also recovered suspected marijuana and several knives and a hatchet from the suspects.

The suspects were later booked into the Youth Services Center for Investigation of Burglary. Detectives will handle the follow up investigation.

We heard some of this scanner traffic last night, and the SPD Blotter item beat us to the followup call. One thing we heard clearly: One of the officers noted the drive to the precinct from the arrest scene was “just a couple blocks away.”

44 Comments

  1. There definitely seems to be an uptick in break ins, car prowls in the Highland Park neighborhood.

    Comment by Melissa — 8:57 am October 15, 2013 #

  2. I wonder if these are the same hoodlums that broke into our place last month. Took a lot of our small electronics and my sons duffel bag. Sure hope we can recover our stuff! Too bad they aren’t over 18!

    Comment by Melissa C. — 9:38 am October 15, 2013 #

  3. Hmmm… Our GPS was taken from our car (Highland Park) last week. Sigh.

    Comment by Rachel — 9:47 am October 15, 2013 #

  4. wasn’t this a school night….do these kids have parents?

    these kids are very lucky they picked this apartment and not another home. that owner had every right to shoot to kill.

    odds are they will be back at it by the weekend. next time they may not be so lucky to live to rob another day.

    Comment by joel — 10:13 am October 15, 2013 #

  5. 13 years old out at 11:30pm on a Monday night burglarizing an apartment….. Great parenting!

    Comment by neighbor — 10:36 am October 15, 2013 #

  6. Joel, in a perfect world, well, yes, these boys would have been home in a warm bed. Sadly, some people just give birth and the follow-up isn’t very good. Wonder how young they were their first time….how sad, indeed.

    Comment by JanS — 10:48 am October 15, 2013 #

  7. Nothing will happen to them. They are 13. They should arrest the parents.

    Comment by B — 10:51 am October 15, 2013 #

  8. Those kids are lucky to be alive.

    Comment by MrB — 11:05 am October 15, 2013 #

  9. Wow, catching the bus in front of the victim’s building? Not exactly criminal masterminds.

    Comment by Christopher — 11:15 am October 15, 2013 #

  10. I agree with B, they should arrest the parents.

    Comment by FBT — 11:21 am October 15, 2013 #

  11. My house was broken into on Monday Aug 30th. Witnesses saw kids hanging out. Hope they find our 2 I pads.

    Comment by sheli — 11:41 am October 15, 2013 #

  12. If that was my place, they would most likely be dead. You have to conciously make the effort to break into someone’s home. I do not care why. If have no idea how many, nor whether they are armed. I am shooting to kill.

    I am protecting mine and my own. zAnd will lose no sleep over it.
    They can deal with their fallout.

    Comment by Ray — 12:15 pm October 15, 2013 #

  13. Wow bunch of assumptions here. Parents? Or Parent? Or neither?

    The conjecture on these comments boards about the history of the children here is simply that – conjecture.

    Kids are definitely lucky to be alive though.

    Comment by themightrabbit — 12:38 pm October 15, 2013 #

  14. Anyone who would shoot a 13 year old kid over an ipad has some serious issues. You’re going to end up shooting a member of your own family with the shoot first ask questions later attitude.

    Comment by roundthesound — 12:44 pm October 15, 2013 #

  15. No. I will shoot any intruder that is IN MY HOUSE.
    You have no idea about who lives with me. It could just be and my significant other, who share the same bedroom. Anyone not in bed, but in the house when they should not be – SHOT.

    Why is that so hard to consider?

    I DO NOT CARE WHO THEY ARE. They DO NOT have a right to be in my house. Again – you never know how many there might me, their intent, and whether they are armed and with what.

    If they make the conciious decision to enter my house, THEY WILL BE SHOT.

    Why is this so incredulous to you?

    Comment by Ray — 2:22 pm October 15, 2013 #

  16. Wow only 13 yrs old and doing that kind of stuff, it’s a shame they’re just children. :(
    And I agree with roundthesound in sorts.

    Comment by payrollgirl — 2:23 pm October 15, 2013 #

  17. ……….Anyone who would shoot a 13 year old kid over an ipad has some serious issues. You’re going to end up shooting a member of your own family with the shoot first ask questions later attitude…………..

    let’s see first of all it was 2 13 year old kids, not one. how do you know these kids were not armed? should you asked them first politely at midnight in the middle of your own living room with the breeze coming thru the window they broke if they are armed….while your wife and young kids are in the next room?

    48 hours earlier 2 stabbings at westwood by teenagers and we aren’t worried about these kids in gangs with zero parents in their lives and zero respect for the law and human life harming people?

    Comment by joel — 2:24 pm October 15, 2013 #

  18. @ roundthesound the kids broke into the house with a hatchet and knives don’t think these creeps were there to do any good. If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, I will be shooting first then calling 911. They are lucky to be alive and their parents should be arrested and charged with negligent parenting. This is a disgrace!

    Comment by sillygoose — 2:33 pm October 15, 2013 #

  19. Roundthesound, nobody is or has suggested shooting a 13 year old “over an iPad”. If a human enters a residence without permission, at night, and shines a flashlight around, the resident has no idea how many there are, if they have deadly intent or what, they just might find themselves pushing up daisies. iPad or not. And generally, I hate, hate, hate stealers, theives, robbers, etc. I would mete out seriously harsh punishment regardless of what is stolen. Its not about the ‘thing’ that is stolen. Its about the utter, total and complete lack of respect of the personal property social contract that separates us (some of us..) from the animals.

    Comment by Blinkyjoe — 2:43 pm October 15, 2013 #

  20. It disappoints me how many trigger happy people there are on this blog.

    Comment by Ray — 2:48 pm October 15, 2013 #

  21. Officers found several knives and a hatchet on the
    13 year olds. Next time they break in somewhere,
    they will probably have a gun. Ray does not have
    any issues about belongings. I suspect he has issues about protecting himself and his family.
    Sound, what questions would you ask first, ‘can
    I help you sharpen your knives’. You could very
    possibly be putting your own life, or your kids lives at risk, if you have them. These two have most likely not had many breaks in life, but their are plenty of other examples of kids in the same position, choosing a different path. I know this because I married one. Hopefully, something can get through to these two so they can CHOOSE a different path next time.

    Comment by seattlepw — 3:02 pm October 15, 2013 #

  22. Please note it is not necessarily legal to shoot or otherwise use a deadly weapon on someone just because they are in your house.
    .
    http://www.examiner.com/article/arlington-shooting-underscores-need-to-understand-law

    Comment by WSB — 3:04 pm October 15, 2013 #

  23. (Puffs out chest behind computer screen.) Come around my house and get peppered with bullets. Don’t you just love internet tough guys? Eye roll.

    Comment by John — 3:16 pm October 15, 2013 #

  24. @roundthesound: Yours is a dangerous attitude. Kids should be terrified at the thought of breaking into someones home. Fairness and questions of worth have no place in the argument. As if a frightened homeowner has time to make such a judgment call under the circumstances. Good grief. Burglars in my house in the middle of the night, and I’m supposed to check their ID, frisk them, see what they took, then decide how to react and what level of defense to assert? Shall I offer them cookies and milk too? What’s my peace of mind, security and right to be safe in my own home worth? Less than an iPad? From the time they are 5 years old kids should know that breaking into a home puts their life at risk, and why, just like they should learn to respect people’s security, property and property rights they go to work every day to provide for themselves and their families. Its funny that, for all the proverbial stories about people having to rob and steal to feed themselves, it always high priced non food items they’re after, like iPads and iPhones. Just like we tell mugging victims that it’s not worth risking their life to hang onto their purse or wallet, those kids should know it’s not worth their lives to burglarize a home or business. You may not like attitude’s like Ray’s, but kids better damn well learn to respect them, because he’s got the law on his side.

    Comment by pjmanley — 3:19 pm October 15, 2013 #

  25. WSB….the article you have highlighted does not appear to involve shootings which occurred someones home.

    the first example the criminal had fled the home he was robbing and in the second the criminal was stealing items from a car.

    It would be very surprising if the law did not support this homeowner had he shot these 2 armed criminals

    Comment by joel — 4:04 pm October 15, 2013 #

  26. (I am not an attorney) Like Joel said, Dave’s article is regarding specific situations occurring outside the home or in situations where an imminent threat is not reasonably perceived to be present I.e leaving the scene of the crime or not in a close enough proximity to the victim/slayer to be a reasonable threat. Confronting someone inside your home within close proximity and they are not retreating is a whole different situation and I suggest you read Dave’s pamphlet that actually covers this and other situations. Also I highly suggest defensive firearms training that also gives you advice on how to deal with these situations legally, including the reasonable man doctrine, castle doctrine, duty to retreat and other mitigating circumstances that can turn a seemingly clear cut situation very murky. For example going on a forum stating you are going to shoot without assessing no matter what can potentially be used against you. Just an FYI, but what do I know? :)

    Comment by NM — 4:49 pm October 15, 2013 #

  27. Joel makes an excellent point, as have others.

    A home invasion (burglary while the home/apartment occupants are present)is a felony event.

    Barring telepathy or precognition, the home owners cannot know the intent or equipment of said invaders – nor their age or often, even gender.

    When we consider that a knife or hatchet (or bludgeon) will result in death or serious injury just as effectively as a firearm at contact ranges, fear for ones life in such circumstances becomes entirely reasonable.

    The dividing line, as I understand it, is that when the aggressor (invader) begins to flee that it is *then* unlawful to use lethal force (outside of very limited circumstances) to stop them.

    If someone invades my home? Odds are good that, unless they can swiftly identify themselves and immediately comply with instructions…that things will get dreadfully exciting and lethal. I am utterly uninterested in taking up residence in a pine box just because I let an aggressor get close enough to do me in or did not act swiftly enough to discourage an aggressor armed with some sort of distance weapon.

    The aftermath will, undoubtedly, suck – but at least I will be alive to endure it.

    Comment by GayCynic — 4:53 pm October 15, 2013 #

  28. Two 13 year olds, out robbing & stealing…with a hatchet, breaking into people’s home while they sleep…NOW that scares the heck out of me….not so much all of you carrying guns. Saying you will use it is one thing, actually doing it is another.

    Comment by RJB — 5:01 pm October 15, 2013 #

  29. Q13 reporters just questioned me about this. I live in Westridge Park Apartments (where the burglary happened). I did not know until they talked to me but did see police cars in the lot early this morning. This is no surprise. When I was signing my lease a woman was complaining about the fence in the rear of the complex near Sealth H.S. being knocked down. Kids were trying her door knob and pulling off her screens. I recently complained about the fence near my unit being down. It runs along the trail that cuts from Delridge way to neighborhood behind. Someone knocked stuff on my back porch and I have had eyes in my back window. People cut through the rear of my unit via the hole in the fence. Managements’ response “they’ll just tear it down again”. I’m hoping a little media exposure will pressure them to fix the fences. It’s not going to stop seasoned burglars but, opportunistic amateurs like the two caught last night might be slowed down.

    Comment by BurlGT — 6:25 pm October 15, 2013 #

  30. Hey Burl, if you see this in time – I’ve been lax about my reminders this week but the West Seattle Crime Prevention Council meets in half an hour (7 pm at the precinct) and it’s always an excellent way to take concerns directly to police. All welcome, Delridge/Webster, couple blocks from your place … TR

    Comment by WSB — 6:27 pm October 15, 2013 #

  31. What a nice place Seatlle is.

    Comment by Wilson — 6:43 pm October 15, 2013 #

  32. I liked living in Seattle, but things like this make me glad to have moved. I’d have ended up like George Zimmerman!

    Comment by Granger — 8:17 pm October 15, 2013 #

  33. When I was younger my little brother and I were staying at my grandparents and my little brother started sleep-walking and walked out of the house. The neighbor pulled a shotgun on him because he thought he was someone breaking in. I’m really glad the neighbor was a responsible gun owner and didn’t shoot first then ask questions.

    Comment by roundthesound — 9:08 pm October 15, 2013 #

  34. I guess I don’t have any possessions that are worth someone’s life.

    Comment by roundthesound — 11:04 pm October 15, 2013 #

  35. hopefully this will put an end to the rash of robberies in highland park as of late its getting bad around here!! my neighbors house got hit and both times they climbed in a open window which was about the size of a 13 yo kid!! all tell ya this!! these kids are damn lucky because one of these days you guys are gonna be reporting on someones son or daughter being killed!! its just a matter of time now as more homeowners are arming themselves due to lack of local police and goverment support/funding…which im not even gonna get into….but you know its bad when your local police comment on the WSB and tell you to defend yourself because there hands are tied!!!!

    Comment by VanillaGorilla — 1:47 am October 16, 2013 #

  36. roundthesound — The question is == how much is your life worth?
    These two 13-year-old budding criminals are breaking into private property. Knives and hatchets are weapons. Two stabbings in WS recently. As a homeowner, I will protect my private property against criminal activity.

    Comment by Seattlite — 7:27 am October 16, 2013 #

  37. In a perfect world these kids would have supportive, stable, strong support at home and wouldn’t have to or want to break into homes.

    Many times people make mistakes and then get straightened out, sometimes they don’t, but I don’t think that it is up to the wronged person to decided to take someone’s life.

    Our car was broken into this summer and there was an interesting follow up to it with two different schools of thought in the comments. 1. “I would have shot them” 2. Restorative justice is sometimes the best course of action.

    At 13 I hope there is a chance for these kids to be helped, turned around, supported… but maybe that is just me being a soft person with human goodness blinders on.

    Comment by Elizagrace — 8:18 am October 16, 2013 #

  38. These kids were in someone’s house.

    WHere they did not belong.

    They had to PHYSICALLY FORCE THEIR WAY INSIDE.

    They KNEW what they were doing was wrong. They were armed.

    Why should ANYONE have to consider options. It is not like these kids accidentally stumbled into these houses at 11pm. That were locked. And just happened to have found weapons inside, right next to the door.

    THEY BROKE IN WITH ILL INTENT.

    In this particular case, given these facts:
    1. They were inside the house.
    2. THey broke into the house.
    3. They had weapons.

    There is NO REASON to have any pity if there had been a fatality.

    Comment by Ray — 9:52 am October 16, 2013 #

  39. @roundthesound, et. al: There seems to be some confusion about the fundamental difference between someone in your house armed and uninvited, compared to someone skulking around outside your house or acting suspicious on the street. We likely never would’ve ever heard about George Zimmerman or Tryvon Martin, had Treyvon been inside George’s house when he was shot.

    As a parent myself, I would feel terrible learning I had shot someone only 13 yo. That said, 13 is old enough to understand they are doing something illegal and wrong. I’m not going to question anyone’s motives in that situation, or if they are on the verge of “turning their lives around”. These youths concluded the risk (punishment) was minimal compared to the reward (peer status, potential material gain, etc.). Evidently, nobody bothered to point out to them that could be very faulty logic. Unfortunately for the rest of society, they are probably correct.

    Comment by Peter — 10:28 am October 16, 2013 #

  40. My hunch is these kids are involved in gang initiation. This time of year, right after school starts, is often when they are just recruiting and challenging the newbies to commit crimes for entrance and status.

    Know I happen to also have a hunch these kids’ groups read the WSB and are getting even more negative strokes with the comments from anonymous home owners threatening to shoot on sight.

    The young misguided kids, the internet threats of low IQ adults….same crappy behaviors which enable each others’ rationalizations of cultural defiance which promotes violence.

    Kids with knives and adults with guns: think about it.

    Comment by It's that time of year — 2:11 pm October 16, 2013 #

  41. it’s midnight, lights are off, after hearing a window break you hear multiple people inside your home, your wife and young kids are asleep in the next room…….

    question….at what point do you politely ask the intruders a) are you in the wrong house? b) how can I help you? c) are you here to hurt me and the wife and kids? and d) can I see some picture i.d. so I know how old you are?

    Comment by joel — 6:47 pm October 16, 2013 #

  42. I would have done exactly what the person did in this story except I would have called police and then confronted whoever was in my house. I sleep with a flashlight and a machete under my bed; a machete so I can look crazy or at least a little intimidating, a flashlight so I can identify my situation/opponent. I don’t own a gun so I don’t need to know how old you there is zero chance I’m shooting a child. If you believe 13yr olds understand the consequences of their actions you must not have ever been a teenager. I believe what these kids was wrong but I don’t think it’s punishable by death. People have been threatening to shoot intruders on here for years but what the kids are picking up from these comments is that there are a lot of guns out there to steal. I wish I could see some data about how many home intruders have been shot in the last 5 years and how many guns have been stolen in burglaries here in West Seattle…

    Comment by roundthesound — 6:37 am October 17, 2013 #

  43. At our house, they would have first met our dog, she’s a very light sleeper. ;) But I’m a light sleeper too so their second introduction would be my baseball bat that I keep next to the bed along with several sprays of mace & my very large fist. There would be blood!

    I don’t really care how old you are. As others have mentioned, between gangs & poor parenting, it’s not my responsibility to ask questions after you break into MY house. I’m not into guns but breaking into our house would be a very painful experience. Btw, we live not far from Highland Park, closer to the college … you have been warned!

    Comment by drahcir61 — 8:33 am October 17, 2013 #

  44. There were at least four robberies from these two boys! My daughters apt. in the same complex as all the other robberies, was not only robbed, but totally trashed as well. It was also very obvious that they threw large/heavy items at the two dogs!

    Comment by M Maxwell — 8:58 am October 17, 2013 #

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