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	<title>Comments on: Followup: City&#8217;s new surveillance cameras not just on Alki</title>
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		<title>By: Goddesss</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-964759</link>
		<dc:creator>Goddesss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote you say, we do . Still have a South Park Bridge to cross nope. Monorail built. Key Arena upgrades done correct, Seawall included in the newest Tunnel Plan ? God knows I could go on and on. Don&#039;t have any solution either ? Maybe Chris Hansen and Vulcan are going to save us. HaHahaHa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote you say, we do . Still have a South Park Bridge to cross nope. Monorail built. Key Arena upgrades done correct, Seawall included in the newest Tunnel Plan ? God knows I could go on and on. Don&#8217;t have any solution either ? Maybe Chris Hansen and Vulcan are going to save us. HaHahaHa</p>
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		<title>By: Goddesss</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-964747</link>
		<dc:creator>Goddesss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can and will do anything they want to ! Big Brother has always been a watching , they&#039;re just stepping up the game. Revenue! Who&#039;s paying you ask? We are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can and will do anything they want to ! Big Brother has always been a watching , they&#8217;re just stepping up the game. Revenue! Who&#8217;s paying you ask? We are!</p>
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		<title>By: sagafoo</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963747</link>
		<dc:creator>sagafoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can this be allowed when we are cutting social services?? How many people face eviction due to rent increases, or cant feed themselves. I think this money was wasted. and Yes not only do we not need these, but even if we did, i believe the strait of Juan De Fuca would be a more appropriate spot.  BOO for Cameras installed with NO city vote. How can they say theres a big recession, send the banks Millions, Pay millians for cameras, and Cut money for education. Its SICK and Wrong!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can this be allowed when we are cutting social services?? How many people face eviction due to rent increases, or cant feed themselves. I think this money was wasted. and Yes not only do we not need these, but even if we did, i believe the strait of Juan De Fuca would be a more appropriate spot.  BOO for Cameras installed with NO city vote. How can they say theres a big recession, send the banks Millions, Pay millians for cameras, and Cut money for education. Its SICK and Wrong!!</p>
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		<title>By: wetone</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963341</link>
		<dc:creator>wetone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CE, you ask how your, our voices, opinions can be heard. One simple answer is when you VOTE! Many of these people involved with this project are elected to their positions (city counsel)and some involved have announced they will be running for mayor. Voting is a great way to show your opinion !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CE, you ask how your, our voices, opinions can be heard. One simple answer is when you VOTE! Many of these people involved with this project are elected to their positions (city counsel)and some involved have announced they will be running for mayor. Voting is a great way to show your opinion !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: CE</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963329</link>
		<dc:creator>CE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Phil. These are exactly some of the reasons why I feel these cameras are a big deal. We need to stop being apathetic and start investigating these issues for ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Phil. These are exactly some of the reasons why I feel these cameras are a big deal. We need to stop being apathetic and start investigating these issues for ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: phil dirt</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963312</link>
		<dc:creator>phil dirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People .......... these cameras are being paid for by the Department of Homeland Security, not the Seattle Police. Do any of you remember Obama&#039;s little noticed announcement that if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a &quot;civilian national security force&quot; as big and well- funded as the Defense Department? Here&#039;s what Obama said at a campaign stop in Colorado on July 2, 2008. &quot;We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we&#039;ve set. We&#039;ve got to have a civilian national security force that&#039;s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.&quot; Are any of you aware that Homeland Security has recently purchased 1.7 billion rounds of .40 caliber hollow point ammunition and billions more of 5.56 MM ammunition for use in their AR-15 rifles? They are stockpiling enough guns and ammo to kill all of us 300 times over. All of the major police departments in the USA are being equipped with armored vehicles and drones capable of firing rockets. They are all being militarized, and Seattle already has four drones I&#039;m told, and some sources say that they were paid for by Homeland Security.

As several of you have mentioned, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) allows for our Government to declare anybody they want to be a terrorist, and once declared to be so, you can be held without any formal charges being made by the authorities against you for as long as they want. For all practical purposes our 6th Amendment, no longer exists. Our 4th Amendment was trashed long ago. Call me paranoid if you want, but our country is fast becoming a police state.    

To me, the old saying, &quot;I love my country but I fear my government&quot; has taken on an entirely new meaning. The next few years should be very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. these cameras are being paid for by the Department of Homeland Security, not the Seattle Police. Do any of you remember Obama&#8217;s little noticed announcement that if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a &#8220;civilian national security force&#8221; as big and well- funded as the Defense Department? Here&#8217;s what Obama said at a campaign stop in Colorado on July 2, 2008. &#8220;We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we&#8217;ve set. We&#8217;ve got to have a civilian national security force that&#8217;s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.&#8221; Are any of you aware that Homeland Security has recently purchased 1.7 billion rounds of .40 caliber hollow point ammunition and billions more of 5.56 MM ammunition for use in their AR-15 rifles? They are stockpiling enough guns and ammo to kill all of us 300 times over. All of the major police departments in the USA are being equipped with armored vehicles and drones capable of firing rockets. They are all being militarized, and Seattle already has four drones I&#8217;m told, and some sources say that they were paid for by Homeland Security.</p>
<p>As several of you have mentioned, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) allows for our Government to declare anybody they want to be a terrorist, and once declared to be so, you can be held without any formal charges being made by the authorities against you for as long as they want. For all practical purposes our 6th Amendment, no longer exists. Our 4th Amendment was trashed long ago. Call me paranoid if you want, but our country is fast becoming a police state.    </p>
<p>To me, the old saying, &#8220;I love my country but I fear my government&#8221; has taken on an entirely new meaning. The next few years should be very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: WSB</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963301</link>
		<dc:creator>WSB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in a few hours. Working on it right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in a few hours. Working on it right now.</p>
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		<title>By: CE</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963297</link>
		<dc:creator>CE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks WSB. Will you still be publishing the full story with your recorded conversation that you mentioned would be forthcoming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks WSB. Will you still be publishing the full story with your recorded conversation that you mentioned would be forthcoming?</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963283</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 12:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JKB...

Aside from simply &quot;allocating funds for the DOD,&quot; The National Defense Authorization Act has provision in it that call for the &quot;indefinite detention on American citizens.&quot; No lawyer. No trial. No phone call. No due process. All you have to do is be accused of being a &quot;threat&quot; (a very loosely-defined term). This has passed and is now legally on the books. Aside from that, the NDAA also allocates funds for legal propaganda in the US.</description>
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<p>Aside from simply &#8220;allocating funds for the DOD,&#8221; The National Defense Authorization Act has provision in it that call for the &#8220;indefinite detention on American citizens.&#8221; No lawyer. No trial. No phone call. No due process. All you have to do is be accused of being a &#8220;threat&#8221; (a very loosely-defined term). This has passed and is now legally on the books. Aside from that, the NDAA also allocates funds for legal propaganda in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Codad</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963126</link>
		<dc:creator>Codad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 21:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should set up cameras at the police stations in Seattle and have the cameras be displayed to the public. Its only fare. I drive down Delridge almost every day and the police station is full of cop cars. Shouldn&#039;t they be driving around busting bad guys? Tax dollars hard at work in Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should set up cameras at the police stations in Seattle and have the cameras be displayed to the public. Its only fare. I drive down Delridge almost every day and the police station is full of cop cars. Shouldn&#8217;t they be driving around busting bad guys? Tax dollars hard at work in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: WSB</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963114</link>
		<dc:creator>WSB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CE - it&#039;s the Police Department&#039;s program, but ultimately your elected officials are the ones with whom &quot;the buck stops,&quot; as the saying goes, and that would be Mayor McGinn and the City Council, particularly Councilmember Bruce Harrell, who chairs the Public Safety/Technology/Civil Rights Committee, which as noted in our second story are the ones who got the initial review on this and approved it last May (the other members of that committee are CM&#039;s Mike O&#039;Brien and Nick Licata, though only O&#039;Brien was present with Harrell for the May briefing). Their individual e-mail/phone info are all found from http://seattle.gov/council - the mayor from http://seattle.gov/mayor - TR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CE &#8211; it&#8217;s the Police Department&#8217;s program, but ultimately your elected officials are the ones with whom &#8220;the buck stops,&#8221; as the saying goes, and that would be Mayor McGinn and the City Council, particularly Councilmember Bruce Harrell, who chairs the Public Safety/Technology/Civil Rights Committee, which as noted in our second story are the ones who got the initial review on this and approved it last May (the other members of that committee are CM&#8217;s Mike O&#8217;Brien and Nick Licata, though only O&#8217;Brien was present with Harrell for the May briefing). Their individual e-mail/phone info are all found from <a href="http://seattle.gov/council" rel="nofollow">http://seattle.gov/council</a> &#8211; the mayor from <a href="http://seattle.gov/mayor" rel="nofollow">http://seattle.gov/mayor</a> &#8211; TR</p>
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		<title>By: CE</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963110</link>
		<dc:creator>CE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who are concerned about this, what is the best way to make our voices heard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who are concerned about this, what is the best way to make our voices heard?</p>
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		<title>By: anti-obstruction</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963109</link>
		<dc:creator>anti-obstruction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those who give up essential liberty to purchase a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.&quot;
                                                Ben Franklin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those who give up essential liberty to purchase a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.&#8221;<br />
                                                Ben Franklin</p>
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		<title>By: pjmanley</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963100</link>
		<dc:creator>pjmanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t live in London.  We fought the Revolutionary to war to get out from under that kind of control.  No taxation without representation; No surveillance without our consent.  How about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t live in London.  We fought the Revolutionary to war to get out from under that kind of control.  No taxation without representation; No surveillance without our consent.  How about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Come on</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2013/02/followup-citys-new-surveillance-cameras-not-just-on-alki#comment-963094</link>
		<dc:creator>Come on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep and despite all those cameras they didn&#039;t manage to do anything when the terrosists attacked their transit system. Food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep and despite all those cameras they didn&#8217;t manage to do anything when the terrosists attacked their transit system. Food for thought.</p>
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