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	<title>Comments on: Storm followup: Highest water level ever recorded in Seattle</title>
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		<title>By: WsEd</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/storm-followup-highest-water-level-ever-recorded-in-seattle#comment-953995</link>
		<dc:creator>WsEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when I was younger I thought I wanted water front property.  I think I will stay up on the hill like the old timers used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when I was younger I thought I wanted water front property.  I think I will stay up on the hill like the old timers used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Olsoe</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/storm-followup-highest-water-level-ever-recorded-in-seattle#comment-948091</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Olsoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact of the matter is that we as a species are addicted to burning fossil fuel. Instead of cutting back we are burning more and more each year. Unchecked this is going to seriously mess with the earth&#039;s climate.  Our only hope is to tax fossil fuel to pay for mitigation.  The only mitigation that will work as I see it is to inject alkaline aerosols high in the atmosphere to cool the earth back to normal and to remediate the acidification of the oceans. I someone has a better idea I would be happy to know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact of the matter is that we as a species are addicted to burning fossil fuel. Instead of cutting back we are burning more and more each year. Unchecked this is going to seriously mess with the earth&#8217;s climate.  Our only hope is to tax fossil fuel to pay for mitigation.  The only mitigation that will work as I see it is to inject alkaline aerosols high in the atmosphere to cool the earth back to normal and to remediate the acidification of the oceans. I someone has a better idea I would be happy to know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mud Baby</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/storm-followup-highest-water-level-ever-recorded-in-seattle#comment-947236</link>
		<dc:creator>Mud Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monday morning while cruising by Pier 91 I noticed that water levels at Pier 91 seemed alarmingly high--what looked to me to be only 4 to 6 feet below the top of POS&#039;s docks.  By the end of the century, sea levels could be up to 4 feet higher than they are now.  

Am I the only one who wonders whether it makes sense to build a third $ 0.5 billion sports stadium in an area that by the end of the century (if not sooner) could easily be flooded on a regular basis by the simultaneous occurrence of sea level rise + a major storm-generated low pressure storm surges and flooding on the Green-Duwamish River, not to mention the effects of occasional King Tides?  Under such conditions the Green River would also backwater upstream back up as far as Kent, which is protected by rinky-dink levees that the mayor and her pro-business cronies are dead set against setting back to improve flood conveyance.  When Howard Hanson Dam was originally designed in the late 50s and early 60s it was thought to have the capacity to hold back a 500-year flood.  Using modern methods of hydrologic modelling (which don&#039;t even take into account the potential for increased frequency of devastating storms and flooding in the future as the atmosphere heats up), the dam&#039;s actual storage capacity has been found to be only enough to contain the 140 year flood.  The Red Queen-like mayor of Kent says--no problem, the Corps can build another Green River dam and/or raise the height of the existing dam--as if these projects, which would cost hundreds of $millions, could be done by waving a magic wand.  

Here in Seattle we&#039;re also poised to spend up to a $billion on the seawall and the osmetic makeover of the waterfront as if this part of downtown will somehow be magically exempt from the effects of rising sea levels in the current century and beyond.  

We go to great lengths to preserve and restore historic buildings, but at the same time build stuff, e.g., the new towers being built across the parking lot from the Hawks stadium, that may not be accessible except by boat in hundred years because of future sea level rise.  Ignoring these realities is much more politically palatable to politicians at all levels of government.  That is why the United States hasn&#039;t even signed let alone ratified the Law of the Sea convention (which took place from 1973 through 1982), let alone the Kyoto Protocol and subsequent climate treaties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monday morning while cruising by Pier 91 I noticed that water levels at Pier 91 seemed alarmingly high&#8211;what looked to me to be only 4 to 6 feet below the top of POS&#8217;s docks.  By the end of the century, sea levels could be up to 4 feet higher than they are now.  </p>
<p>Am I the only one who wonders whether it makes sense to build a third $ 0.5 billion sports stadium in an area that by the end of the century (if not sooner) could easily be flooded on a regular basis by the simultaneous occurrence of sea level rise + a major storm-generated low pressure storm surges and flooding on the Green-Duwamish River, not to mention the effects of occasional King Tides?  Under such conditions the Green River would also backwater upstream back up as far as Kent, which is protected by rinky-dink levees that the mayor and her pro-business cronies are dead set against setting back to improve flood conveyance.  When Howard Hanson Dam was originally designed in the late 50s and early 60s it was thought to have the capacity to hold back a 500-year flood.  Using modern methods of hydrologic modelling (which don&#8217;t even take into account the potential for increased frequency of devastating storms and flooding in the future as the atmosphere heats up), the dam&#8217;s actual storage capacity has been found to be only enough to contain the 140 year flood.  The Red Queen-like mayor of Kent says&#8211;no problem, the Corps can build another Green River dam and/or raise the height of the existing dam&#8211;as if these projects, which would cost hundreds of $millions, could be done by waving a magic wand.  </p>
<p>Here in Seattle we&#8217;re also poised to spend up to a $billion on the seawall and the osmetic makeover of the waterfront as if this part of downtown will somehow be magically exempt from the effects of rising sea levels in the current century and beyond.  </p>
<p>We go to great lengths to preserve and restore historic buildings, but at the same time build stuff, e.g., the new towers being built across the parking lot from the Hawks stadium, that may not be accessible except by boat in hundred years because of future sea level rise.  Ignoring these realities is much more politically palatable to politicians at all levels of government.  That is why the United States hasn&#8217;t even signed let alone ratified the Law of the Sea convention (which took place from 1973 through 1982), let alone the Kyoto Protocol and subsequent climate treaties.</p>
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		<title>By: miws</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/storm-followup-highest-water-level-ever-recorded-in-seattle#comment-947224</link>
		<dc:creator>miws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How bizarre to se the promenade flooded, especially form the perspective of looking toward Elliott Bay!

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Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bizarre to se the promenade flooded, especially form the perspective of looking toward Elliott Bay!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: ARE YOU KIDDING?</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARE YOU KIDDING?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not only the seawall that has to be considered--the buildings on all the piers, Alaskan Way...What about the train and new tunnel? 
Have you noticed there is no longer a gas station near Alki?  The tanks get lifted.  Hope the engineers and elected officials are considering all these things. Not being an alarmist, just an observer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not only the seawall that has to be considered&#8211;the buildings on all the piers, Alaskan Way&#8230;What about the train and new tunnel?<br />
Have you noticed there is no longer a gas station near Alki?  The tanks get lifted.  Hope the engineers and elected officials are considering all these things. Not being an alarmist, just an observer.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the new sea wall downtown takes global warming into account?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the new sea wall downtown takes global warming into account?</p>
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		<title>By: EmmaPeel</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/storm-followup-highest-water-level-ever-recorded-in-seattle#comment-946964</link>
		<dc:creator>EmmaPeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The high tide causes the street where I work in Sodo to flood...it&#039;s fill down there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The high tide causes the street where I work in Sodo to flood&#8230;it&#8217;s fill down there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wetone</title>
		<link>http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/storm-followup-highest-water-level-ever-recorded-in-seattle#comment-946887</link>
		<dc:creator>wetone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. Growing up down at Alki I have seen water higher on the beach to the point of having sand and more pushed across the ave a few times. Along with the old bath house getting swamped. Before the steps going to the sand were built.  Makes a huge deference with which way the wind blows. High tides big logs big winds makes a bad combo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. Growing up down at Alki I have seen water higher on the beach to the point of having sand and more pushed across the ave a few times. Along with the old bath house getting swamped. Before the steps going to the sand were built.  Makes a huge deference with which way the wind blows. High tides big logs big winds makes a bad combo.</p>
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