4755 Fauntleroy Way mega-project: 1st look at 2nd Design Review ‘packet’

October 30, 2012 at 12:05 pm | In Development, West Seattle news | 24 Comments

With nine days to go till the second Early Design Guidance review of the biggest project on the boards for West Seattle right now, 4755 Fauntleroy Way SW, the information/graphics “packet” for the meeting is already available online – see it here (but be forewarned, it’s a 33-MB PDF). This means those who are interested have plenty of time for homework before it comes back to the Southwest Design Review Board on November 8th. Above, the concept for the two-building site, as if you were looking toward the Fauntleroy/Alaska corner (keep in mind, this is still the “early” phase, which means this is for size and shape, aka “massing,” not for any sort of final appearance). Next, the frontage along Fauntleroy (drugstore to the left, grocery to the right and wrapping around Alaska – also note the “mid-block connector” which goes through to 40th SW on the other side):

The proposal includes 43,000 square feet for a grocery store, 14,000 square feet for a drugstore, about 8,000 square feet for other retailers (no the tenants have been announced yet), more than 350 apartments, and an underground parking garage. The revised documents also includes sketches of loading-ramp options, a big topic of discussion at the first meeting last month (WSB coverage here), along with alleys. Here’s the overhead view (40th at top, Fauntleroy at bottom, the Masonic Hall property – which is NOT part of the project – at top left) including the landscape plan:

Next week’s review is part of a Design Review Board doubleheader, with 4724 California‘s second review (no “design packet” from them yet) at 6:30 pm and this one at 8 pm, both at the Senior Center of West Seattle (California/Oregon). There is a public-comment period in which you will have the opportunity to get up and speak about your observations – providing they relate to the design; other comments can be sent to the project’s assigned city planner, Bruce Rips, at bruce.rips@seattle.gov.

24 Comments

  1. I wonder which grocery store. Dare we hope Whole Paycheck?

    Comment by Arbor Heights Mom — 5:06 pm October 30, 2012 #

  2. In previous comment discussions, that’s been cited, for reasons including the size . We should get official word before too long – the project team had told us that they expected to make an announcement in November.

    Comment by WSB — 5:15 pm October 30, 2012 #

  3. I for one hope that it is Whole Foods!

    Comment by Bill atDuwamish Head — 5:22 pm October 30, 2012 #

  4. I’m the most pro-development pro-density person I know, and I’m all for buildings here, especially taller buildings if they’d put some thought into the architecture. But it takes a special breed of stupid to have your “bulking” plan rejected by design review and then come back with exactly the same thing.

    Comment by Peter on Fauntleroy — 6:03 pm October 30, 2012 #

  5. We have a ridiculous abundance of supermarkets, but I have to begrudgingly admit Whole Foods is a great place to go for lunch.

    Comment by G — 6:26 pm October 30, 2012 #

  6. These renderings seem oversized for the neighborhood. Especially a neighborhood with such poor transit options.

    Comment by Glenn — 6:41 pm October 30, 2012 #

  7. Another grocery store? Really? How about a theater? Let’s get original.

    Comment by Carole — 7:03 pm October 30, 2012 #

  8. How can the city keep issuing permits for new housing in West Seattle but provide no real long term viable option to get off this island? The county cut back on bus service and the city wont extend light rail. Why do we keep voting the same people in office year after year?

    Comment by andrea — 7:09 pm October 30, 2012 #

  9. So when are they building another bridge?

    Comment by Lee — 7:14 pm October 30, 2012 #

  10. Am pretty sure there is a rapid ride stop a block away.

    Comment by west seattle newbie — 7:37 pm October 30, 2012 #

  11. From what I see and read now it will be 350+ units ? Earlier they were talking about 500+ parking spots is that still the same or do they plan on increasing the parking also ? With all the retail space and 350+ units and I’m sure there will be alot of 2bd units. That one block area could see 300 to 1000 more cars a day. Add the Petco property and the old Rock Sport corner (California & Alaska) oh say another 150 to 300 cars. There are a few more projects in this area and many more being planned. If you think these people will be taking the bus to work good luck. I don’t mind high density but you have to build in an area that will support it and not limited by a bridge to get to. The city is just looking at tax dollars. Leaving the people in this area to suffer with the commute and grid lock. Next will be tolls. Be interesting to see what property values do in a couple years when you can’t get to work or leave the area.

    Comment by wetone — 9:11 pm October 30, 2012 #

  12. “such poor transit option”? Seriously? Er…this has the MOST transit heavy corridor in all of West Seattle. You’re by a pile of buses, the new rapid ride, only 4 blocks from the bridge. Poor transit options? Wow.

    I like it. I know, everything has to remain the way it looked in 1955 for most folks, but that block (couple blocks) are NOT some historic log cabins, Victorian houses, or such…it’s an UGLY industrial block…a blighted pile of junk consisting of asphalt car lots, ugly gas station, uninspired junk buildings. This would be an IMPROVEMENT to that nasty ugly section of West Seattle.

    Comment by Look Before you Leep — 10:02 pm October 30, 2012 #

  13. wetone — You’re are correct – it is about tax dollars. High density, no supporting infrastructure is how Seattle’s planners work as demonstrated in Ballard, Greenwood, QueenAnne. It would be too logical to present WS with the proposed roadway plans, transit plans, parking plans that would support the proposed building plans. Improving a community like WS is one thing. Overdevelopmenting it is another.

    Comment by Seattlite — 10:27 pm October 30, 2012 #

  14. Welcome to Northgate!

    Comment by Herman — 10:46 pm October 30, 2012 #

  15. Ok, so the building may be overkill for some and I understand their opinions but I still believe there has to be some kind of development there, not some ugly abandoned former car dealership building.

    Comment by Strike em out Kinney — 11:58 pm October 30, 2012 #

  16. @Look. My comment about poor transit options was written while I was riding on an over-stuffed rapid ride, which I begrudgingly took after my two earlier busses failed to show up during a pretty standard and rainy evening commute home from downtown. After luckily squeezing on a bus, we waited for what felt forever in traffic on the viaduct. “Poor” is a reference to quality and my “poor” luck having to rely on an already failing transit system. If anything, I hope the new tenants of this 350+ apartment building force more attention on accessibility to an from WS.

    Comment by Glenn — 6:18 am October 31, 2012 #

  17. I wish I was a wealthy person. I would buy that piece of property and put a private park and ride, bus hub type business in there with apartments on top. Thats what the area needs. If you want people to use a bus system or train you have to have easy and centrally located parking to access the system and that would be a great spot.

    Comment by wetone — 7:56 am October 31, 2012 #

  18. I agree with Wetone and Glenn. Poor transit, indeed. Anyone who is actually riding transit from WS these days should know that the new “rapid ride” is an abysmal failure. 350 additional living units in this area would absolutely cripple transportation. I agree with others who would like to see this area improved, but it’s our community. Perhaps it’s time we stop complaining about it on the blog and start doing something to change it. I have no idea what that would look like, but planners certainly aren’t going to do anything different based on our blog comments. Thoughts, anyone?

    Comment by ElevenEleven — 9:12 am October 31, 2012 #

  19. They need a coworking space in the bottom so that office workers can timeshift their commute or telecommute without the isolation of working from home.

    Comment by Trevor F. Smith — 9:22 am October 31, 2012 #

  20. Wetone-so agree with you I have long hoped that some sort of park-n-ride/structure would be built on one of the old Huling sites. There are lots of folks who would take a bus if they could more easily get to one.
    Carole-I also agree that a movie theatre is a great idea-but would really like to see it out at Westwood Village-once upon a time a theatre was proposed for that area-nothing came of it.My real dream however-would be to win the lottery & totally restore the Admiral to it’s former stature. It was a beautiful place once & could be again I think as well as having all the modern bells & whistles-it’s sad to see it’s current condition. I’ll keep buying a ticket

    Comment by Anne — 11:06 am October 31, 2012 #

  21. I don’t know about the economics of the following but:
    maybe the park & ride thing would work at The Hole.
    Underground parking, a bit of retail/restaurant – breakfast/coffee stuff, at the ground level, and on top,
    a park like our Freeway park downtown.
    With all the new apartments, we’ll be needing a bit of outdoor space. So perhaps there’s a bit of an entree to some Parks funding.
    Then, West Seattle Express busses operate out of there – limited but frequent service to the Sodo link station via the 4th ave route.
    Return would be on 1st, but no stops.
    Park & Ride to & from Sodo Link station.
    Maybe a stop @ 35th & Avalon to serve folks from the 21,
    maybe a stop by the new light @ Yancy on Avalon.
    But not many more, this is would be an Express/Shuttle.
    The RR could be a feeder route for the WSEX for
    those willing to transfer to the light rail to town or Southbound.
    Those who want their 1 seat ride can stay on the RR.
    I don’t know, there must be a better way to move ourselves around, and that hole needs to be filled with something.

    Comment by old timer — 12:21 pm October 31, 2012 #

  22. At one time there was a proposal to build a park and ride with something like 5 stories of condos on top at 4517-4525 41st Avenue. That was a bit ridiculous on a small side street like 41st between Oregon and Alaska, but it would make sense on the Huling lot. It sounds like Metro can’t handle any more West Seattle bus riders at this point, though.

    Comment by Ajax — 5:26 pm October 31, 2012 #

  23. Would neighbors actually invest (even in small amounts) if we could organize a fund to purchase and develop the lot as we see fit?

    Comment by Glenn — 5:33 pm October 31, 2012 #

  24. @lookbeforeyouleep: I sooooooooooooo agree with you! Isn’t that the most UGLY (couple of block youv ever seen? Glad to see some new development in that area….And yes a new cinema is a good idea for that area as well….Love the Admiral but let’s get up to date!

    Comment by soupcha — 7:26 pm October 31, 2012 #

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