2 updates on upcoming 23rd SW (etc.) closure

February 19, 2010 at 3:18 pm | In Delridge, Pigeon Point, Puget Ridge, Transportation | 13 Comments

9:04 PM: Pigeon Point residents say the “no parking” warning signs are up but are stretching beyond the areas described in previous communication from SDOT. Neighborhood leaders are working to sort this out, and also hope to talk with city crew members expected to be in the area to check on the situation Monday morning.

EARLIER (ORIGINALLY POSTED 3:18 PM): We’ve been covering this for a week now, but in case you missed it, here’s the official reminder from SDOT of the North Delridge/Pigeon Point/Puget Ridge road closure/detour situation starting Monday – read on:

A route to South Seattle Community College from Delridge Way SW will be closed from Monday, February 22 to April 5 to vehicles and to pedestrians. The closure is required to allow a private contractor to install underground utilities to serve new homes. The closure will start on SW Oregon off of Delridge Way SW, continue on 23rd SW which turns into 22nd SW, and will end at 21st SW.

The closure is required due to the size of the hole needed and the narrow width of the street, and will be in place 24-hours a day, seven days a week.

General traffic will be detoured to SW Andover on the north and SW Orchard/Dumas on the south. Detours will also be provided for Metro Transit Route 125, U.S. mail and garbage trucks, and emergency vehicles. On-street parking will be restricted on many streets in the area to accommodate Metro Transit buses and where needed for safety.

13 Comments

  1. All of the side streets in the Pigeon Point area have been posted as no parking for the duration of this project. I don’t understand why as the bus reroute is going down 20th. The only street not marked is 19th which means all the street parking from the entire neighborhood is going to be squeezed onto one street. This is ridiculous. Why close streets that aren’t affected by any of this?

    Comment by Tom Gentry — 3:33 pm February 19, 2010 #

  2. As a refresher these are supposed to be the closures

    East side of 21st Ave SW from 22nd SW to SW Genesee
    Both sides of 21st SW from Genesee to Andover
    Both sides of 20th SW between Genesee and Dakota
    East side of 20th from Charlestown to Dakota
    Both sides of Charlestown from 20th to 21st
    Both sides of Genesee from 20th to 21st
    Both sides of 21 from Charlsestown to Andover

    A stop sign will be located on 21st at Andover, facing north and south

    Comment by Tom Gentry — 3:39 pm February 19, 2010 #

  3. Thanks for the heads up, but without fail i’m going to drive my normal route to SSCC on Monday and have to turn around to take Andover. It’s just in the cards. Wish it didn’t take this long, though. That seems like an incredible amount of time.

    Comment by Kurt — 4:00 pm February 19, 2010 #

  4. AND the developer has no incentive to finish the work early under the permit he was issued. It is costing him $60 a day to close down this major street in our community. It would cost him considerably more than that to pay overtime or hire extra folks to shorten the minimum 6 weeks he requested. I still don’t understand that if they are prohibiting parking on both sides of 21st Ave SW why can’t the buses go down this street and avoid the no parking restrictions on all of the other streets in Pigeon Point?

    Comment by Pete — 4:39 pm February 19, 2010 #

  5. It’s frustrating to say the least. It feels very much as if the city has sold out Pigeon Point for a developer’s utility upgrade to the arterial. I understand that Riser Homes are paying the full ride on the sewer and storm drains on 23rd and that cost is considerable, but this has effected a far wider swath of neighborhoods than the average street closure. Closing virtually all parking on two of the three major streets in the Pigeon Point neighborhood without consulting the neighborhood is very unfair. It is a thoughtless, cookie cutter fix to a problem that required a more measured equitable solution.

    Comment by Jim S — 5:47 pm February 19, 2010 #

  6. I just walked Pigeon Point neighborhood where all the signs are posting no parking on either side of the street.

    I am stunned, and the lunacy of the people who make decisions in this city.

    There are dozens and dozens of cars typically parked on those streets.

    Each one of the signs says Riser Homes with the phone number 206-310-4113.

    I called, the message said, mailbox full, John Riser and JDR development.

    For SIX weeks there will be NO PARKING? Not possible mon ami…

    Comment by Pissed On Pigeon Point — 7:30 pm February 19, 2010 #

  7. POPP, are you on the Pigeon Point list? They’re discussing this tonight. We’re going to check out the streets too – apparently the signs stretch beyond what they (and we) were told during all that info-gathering earlier this week – TR

    Comment by WSB — 8:40 pm February 19, 2010 #

  8. not to mention a bus coming thru a very small street from 5 am to midnight every day. this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. and, over what? 3 or 4 townhomes that will probably sit vacant once built? and, yes, the signs are on every street in the n’hood, but one, so all 150 cars that park on the street are going to have to cram into 3 blocks. gotta love it!

    Comment by that girl — 1:19 am February 20, 2010 #

  9. FYI, the Master Builders Association lists:

    J D R Development Inc (206) 352-4815

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    Comment by disinterested party — 10:48 am February 20, 2010 #

  10. Looks like whoever put up the signs mistook the words “east side of 20th” to mean “up every block to the east of 20th”. That’s the ridiculous part. Beyond that, the closures make sense. The turns from 20th to Charleston then to 21st are difficult for the school buses to make, depending on where people park – it will be even more difficult for the larger Metro buses. As for “that girl”‘s comments about the bus coming thru, there used to be a bus route on Pigeon Point 20 years ago – the number 50. It stopped in front of my house. Even with single-pane windows, the noise was not noticable; I don’t see that as an issue. Parking will be a huge issue, though, if the No Parking signs on the side streets remain.

    Comment by MCSteph — 12:33 pm February 20, 2010 #

  11. The newest person to contact with SDOT is Carolyn Jensen 684-8482 with SDOT. We tried to contact her on Friday and she was supposedly “on site” yesterday. Those of us who live on 23rd SW were never notified of the no parking signs that went up and our street is supposedly not a detour route and “local access only.” I actaully received an email from Jon Riser who told me to call him later today. I’ll let you know if he follows through.

    Comment by mary — 4:21 pm February 20, 2010 #

  12. Here is a question. If the trafic coming off of the West Seattle bridge is to be routed up Avalon Way they will be turning left off Delridge. In the morning the northbound traffic on Delridge backs up to Oregon. There will be a maximum of two cars per traffic light cycle turning on to the detour. Is the contractor paying for a traffic policeman to keep the southbound traffic from backing up all the way across the bridge?

    Comment by Rick Springer — 5:26 pm February 20, 2010 #

  13. Talking about parking restrictions; our 23rd Ave is being closed, appearantly to accomidate scoff laws who may use our one lane street as a detour. Our closest alternative is three blocks down the (steep hill) to Delridge in front of the Youngstown Cultural Atrs center.

    Comment by Rick Springer — 5:30 pm February 20, 2010 #

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